Charger - flashes despite working batteries - planned obsolescence?

Hi,

I have a problem with the GP PowerBank Rapid 2 charger.
The problem has always been there, but now I have more batteries and it's a waste of time to charge with the old charger since I have this one.

I put the rechargeable batteries into the charger (the same company as the charger, if it may have any significance) and the batteries are not charged, the dyad flashes red. The manual reads:

"5. When the LED flashes, it means
that it has been placed in the charger
alkaline, zinc carbon, lithium battery, rechargeable battery
alkaline or damaged battery. In this case, charging
will not be started. "

and from the battery we read that its type corresponds to the charger. In addition, in the old / slow charger, the batteries charge normally and work as expected after charging.

I sense a trick here. The message about the battery failure should encourage me to buy new ones. Except that they only work with this charger. The new batteries in this charger are charged normally.

Is there an option to bypass this miracle security? I unscrewed it and there is the D3673904 IC. Maybe some of you know something more or have had an adventure with this charger? It was quite popular at one time.


I googled but links remain unanswered:
https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1618241.html
https://forum.pcformat.pl/Problem-z-ladowarka-GP-PowerBank-rapid-2-t

harry37 wrote:

is there an option to bypass this miracle security

There is - it is enough to buy batteries that are not worn out and do not have some cosmic internal resistance (new, good cells). This type of charger distinguishes between rechargeable batteries and batteries just by Rw.
The fact that some simple charger charges them does not mean that they are in good condition ...

Hmm ... this solution came to mind before I started this topic, it's obvious.
The batteries I use aren't old. If they charge on an old charger and work as long as they always worked, how do we know that they are not in good condition? I am not very interested in the fact that this charger says so ... I know that the manufacturer of the charger would prefer me to buy new batteries after a few cycles because his charger says so.
For me, the condition of the battery is its operating time. Is very good.

So the key to success is to bypass this internal resistance measurement implemented in (good faith by the manufacturer in the charger?

And as for the condition, I also have very old batteries that, of course, also do not work in this charger. The old one charges them normally and you can use them normally. They didn't explode and they didn't spill out, I don't think that's the case either. The only question is how to get rid of this miraculous protection against too long use of the product.

You cannot bypass the protection, because it is also a measuring method of the charging process.
For a colleague, the best solution will be to stick to the old charger, which probably has only a two-half rectifier and a resistor inside, without any logic (so it charges any rechargeable batteries, and you can even charge the batteries with it (don't try!).

A word of advice from me - don't suspect the whole world of all kinds of games based on half-truthful information.

Planned aging of the batteries? Or maybe protection against a dangerous mistake?

Planned aging of printers (blocked after printing several thousand pages)? Or maybe a protection against spilling the used ink on your desk, accumulating all the time in the so-called pampers?

Planned aging of smartphones (performance decrease with battery age)? Buy a third-party phone and enjoy the battery explosion in your pocket; later rumor on the forum that the battery has exploded - it must be planned aging.

Ordinary batteries can always be charged at least once, at least I did it until I had no rechargeable batteries and nothing happened because of it. I do not encourage anyone because I know that it is not correct in the book - but it is possible.

So far, the planned aging is a fact, not a rumor. I believe that this is the case with this charger.
If the batteries are charging and working, what does the miracle protection protect me from?
Well, who would buy new batteries if the charger would not shine with the current ones not working anymore?
It doesn't even offer more capacity. There are only newer and newer heat shrinkable finger tips.
And what is the idea of rechargeable batteries that can be recycled after a few cycles (according to the charger protection). ?

I don't understand people who don't take the above for granted.

I have no experience with printers.

However, as for smartphones, the planned aging also applies here.
I have an iPhone 4s running 7.1.2, it works smoothly and elegantly.
A colleague has an iPhone 4s with a 9 system, something is cutting like hell, you have to wait even for the stupid 'eject' of the keyboard.
Did they do it on purpose? In my opinion, of course it is. If it were a new model, there would be patches to appease customers. BA, they would not have allowed that on the new model.

It is obvious that the manufacturer wants customers to buy more and more new devices.
And at the present time, the way they do it is also obvious to me.

[Now what, they will withdraw IP X because they are afraid that fewer people will buy the more expensive X's and X +. Because the diagonal will probably be an innovation.] - this is a rumor, but if they do it for an obvious reason.
Heh, still better than lowering the performance of the older model. The conclusions are.
What they also officially admitted, so I do not see any 'rumors' in it.

And another interesting fact is that I went to the apple salon (as I didn't know the company well yet) and said that I would like to buy a new battery.
what was the answer?
A proposal for a new iPhone!
But unfortunately for the price of the battery, they did not want to sell it to me.

harry37 wrote:

But unfortunately for the price of the battery, they did not want to sell it to me.

You had to ask if they would sell you a new battery for the price of an iPhone - then you would definitely get what you want

As for the batteries / charger and the topic in general - I also thought that when the batteries are charged in anything and work, it's okay. One time I charged them with a modeling charger with capacity measurement and it turned out that my batteries have ~ 200mAh capacity (declared 1800mAh) - and all the time I considered them super-functional.

Now I have a charger with cell type recognition (something a'la yours) and three-year Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries (now Panasonic Eneloop) - never once has the charger indicated to me any as damaged. Currently, I consider putting such batteries in a charger with a simple charging control system their murder - so I would suggest to my colleague buy two good quality batteries (even the mentioned Eneloop) and make sure that they are always charged only in this new charger - I think that a colleague will be surprised how long it will take for the charger to consider these cells "recyclable". Such links cost ... PLN 9 / piece?

What does a colleague not take into account all the time? - I think that the GP Rapid 2 charger charges the cells with 1.05A - does your friend's old charger also have a similar charging current? With this charging current, inserting an alkaline battery into a charger without controlling the charging process would end (we all know what).

Ture11 wrote:

Planned aging of printers (blocked after printing several thousand pages)? Or maybe a protection against spilling the used ink on your desk, accumulating all the time in the so-called pampers?

Buddy, you are wrong here - HP has already done it in its printers with permanent heads, not in cartridges. There sooner the head worn out than the pampers shed.

Ture11 wrote:

Planned aging of smartphones (performance decrease with battery age)? Buy a third-party phone and enjoy the battery explosion in your pocket; later rumor on the forum that the battery has exploded - it must be planned aging.

You mean reducing the power consumption of your old battery? After replacing with a new one, you will not regain the previous performance. This is a deliberate elimination of older equipment, not a prevention of a battery explosion.

Wawrzyniec wrote:

Ture11 wrote:

Planned aging of printers (blocked after printing several thousand pages)? Or maybe a protection against spilling the used ink on your desk, accumulating all the time in the so-called pampers?

Buddy, you are wrong here - HP has already done it in its printers with permanent heads, not in cartridges. There sooner the head worn out than the pampers shed.

Ture11 wrote:

Planned aging of smartphones (performance decrease with battery age)? Buy a third-party phone and enjoy the battery explosion in your pocket; later rumor on the forum that the battery has exploded - it must be planned aging.

You mean reducing the power consumption of your old battery? After replacing with a new one, you will not regain the previous performance. This is a deliberate elimination of older equipment, not a prevention of a battery explosion.

And after deleting the pampers error without replacing it, it just spilled over after a few months of Brother's idyll . As for smartphones, it was probably about those in which the battery is not replaced.

But colleagues, it doesn't matter. It is true that I would like to point out to my colleague that not everything should be seen in one direction at once, but I did not mean examples from real life, but rather the way of thinking. This could be split off into Hyde Park ...

On the subject, I think I said what needed to be said. Of course, the author's charger can always be damaged - but among the possible causes, I bet that the cells are damaged.

If I have to buy rechargeable batteries, then 12 pcs. Which ones exactly can you recommend to me from your experience?
The charger works 'newer' batteries are charging.

Since I started noticing the phenomenon of planned aging, I try to look for it everywhere so that nobody would make a fool of me.
As with apple users updating their system to the latest version. Because everyone is blindly watching the new, better, super update.
You could also talk about LED bulbs.
There are various things to do with such things, I thought maybe in the case of a charger it would be a simple matter. Well, if it is not possible, it is difficult.