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Renault Clio III: Dipped Beam Headlights Malfunction - Relay Connection and BSM Box Diagram

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How can I get the dipped-beam headlight relay trigger signal in a Renault Clio III BSM box when the MT connector pins shown in the diagram are empty?

You will not find a separate relay-activation wire on the cables, because the headlight command is sent over CAN [#17131551] If you want to drive the relay externally, the only suggestion given was to take the signal from inside the relay/board itself rather than from the connector pins [#17152837]
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  • #1 17128483
    zbiniu85
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    Good morning!

    My problem started with discharging the battery several times (but it is functional). Later, I noticed that the dipped beam headlights did not go out, and they actually glow despite turning them off with the lever. When I wanted to replace the relay, the lights went out completely and despite the efficient relay, they do not turn on anymore. Searching the forum, I found this topic: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2151775.html I managed to get to the board, but I have concerns about desoldering, so I came up with the idea of connecting the relay to the outside. I found a pin with voltage in the original socket and a pin going to the lights. After connecting the relay to these pins and switching it on with a plus from the battery, the lights turned on, so ok. The problem for me is the signal that activates the relay. In the diagram of the BSM box, I see that the dipped beam signal is pin 2 in the MT plug, while for me, pins 2 and 3 of this plug are empty. Maybe you know where to look for this signal?

    ragdoll85
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    #2 17131551
    karolrak
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    You will not find a signal turning on the relay on the cables. The traffic light information goes to CAN.
  • #3 17133447
    zbiniu85
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    I suspected that, but I was hoping that somehow the signal could be derived. It is difficult, you will have to try yourself with a soldering iron.

    Thanks for the answer and best regards!
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    zbiniu85
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    Renault Clio III: Dipped Beam Headlights Malfunction - Relay Connection and BSM Box Diagram

    Today I desoldered the BSM. I was expecting a burned path, but to my eyes everything seems to be ok. If you can, Colleagues, look at the attached photo and judge if there is anything suspicious, then I will be very grateful.
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  • #5 17152770
    zbiniu85
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    I understand that no one is sure of the efficiency or defects of this plate?
  • #6 17152837
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
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    Since you've found the relay, pick it up and extract the signals from its guts.
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    Anonymous
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    Strumien swiadomosci swia
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    Patch it and enjoy the repaired car.
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  • #9 18268877
    Anonymous
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  • Low BSM relay drive voltage measured at 7.81 V

    #10 21694081
    Greechu
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    I'm linking to the topic, I have an identical situation - no low beam. I checked everything, got to the BSM module, or whatever it's called, and found that the problem with me is exactly that after switching on the lights on the relay in the BSM should be given a signal of 12 V to one control pin, and from what I measured with a multimeter, it gives me about 7.81 V there, and with such a low voltage the relay does not want to excite. I further confirmed this by checking the excitation threshold of this relay on the table using a lab power supply. Maybe someone could help which component is responsible for this voltage, as I'm betting it's some component on the board that's messed up, as I haven't found any burnt tracks or cold solders. Help!

Topic summary

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The discussion concerns a Renault Clio III with a dipped beam headlight fault that caused battery discharge and later complete loss of low-beam operation after relay replacement. The relay and lamp circuit were checked, and the headlights could be powered externally by applying battery voltage, but the relay control signal was missing from the expected BSM/relay socket pins. It was concluded that the low-beam switching command is not present on the wiring because the lighting information is transmitted via CAN. Later posts describe inspection of the BSM board for burned tracks or solder faults, and another case reports a similar low-beam issue where the relay control pin receives only about 7.8 V instead of the required 12 V, suggesting an internal BSM component fault rather than damaged tracks.
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