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Tronsmart T6 Portable Speaker Not Charging: Issues with MicroUSB, Warm Port, and Short Circuit

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  • #1 17260622
    mlukjani
    Level 12  
    Hello !

    I have a problem with a portable speaker with a built-in battery (Tronsmart T6). After the last discharge, I connected it to a USB charger (ok, about 3A). In the morning I noticed that the microUSB port is quite warm and the speaker does not work: it does not show charging (it was lit in red) and cannot be turned on.
    After connecting the charger to the charger again, the diode starts blinking - as if it were signaling a short circuit. It was similar with the second charger (also the LED was blinking) and with the simplest one. Changing cables does nothing.

    I unscrewed the speaker, pulled out the plate and in total there is no damage. The USB port between GND and Vcc has no short circuit but quite low resistance around 3.5kOhm - is it supposed to be this way?
    I desoldered the port and inserting the plug into the port itself does not cause the LED to flash, the port also looks ok. Unfortunately I didn't have a second one to replace. After soldering the same effect.
    I was still thinking about recharging the battery for a short time but it did nothing, the speaker turns on for 1s in red, but still does not work.

    When folding, I noticed that the socket itself, together with the mini jack and such a small button behind it, has a sealed casing on the plate, which was decently flooded, but not at the USB port but at the button. Just pressing it does nothing (I do not know if this is not an audio switch, because it is opposite the minijack hole)

    Are the microUSB ports in such speakers somehow thermally protected? What can cause the charger not charging?
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  • #2 17260805
    piterek-23
    Level 33  
    What is your battery voltage?
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  • #3 17260934
    mlukjani
    Level 12  
    piterek-23 wrote:
    What is your battery voltage?

    When I cut it and unfastened it was 0V. The cells are 3.7V, I recharged with a 5V USB charger for a short time and after about an hour they had 6V (a bit much for 3.7V :?: ).
    However, I tried to connect the charger to the USB socket with disconnected battery and also the same - the diode on the charger blinks and no voltage ..
    I do not know what's going on :cry:
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  • #4 17260955
    piterek-23
    Level 33  
    mlukjani wrote:
    When I cut it and unfastened it was 0V.

    The battery seems to be recyclable.
    mlukjani wrote:
    I charged with a 5V USB charger for a short time and after about an hour they were 6V

    You did the worst thing you could do, you don't charge Li-Ion batteries :(

    If you have any other functional 3.7V Li-Ion battery (phone, tablet etc) try to replace it. This way you can check the charging system in the speaker.
  • #5 17261079
    mlukjani
    Level 12  
    piterek-23 wrote:

    The battery seems to be recyclable.
    You did the worst thing you could do, you don't charge Li-Ion batteries :(

    If you have any other functional 3.7V Li-Ion battery (phone, tablet etc) try to replace it. This way you can check the charging system in the speaker.


    Only, why the board does not work without battery, attached to the charger still causes a short circuit. IMO is a power supply problem and it caused battery discharge to 0.

    This is what a part of the board with a microUSB connector looks like, next to it is the audio socket and the switch behind it. This black is a kind of gasket to which the USB connector housing is glued and screwed, which was slightly melted at the height of the button.

    Tronsmart T6 Portable Speaker Not Charging: Issues with MicroUSB, Warm Port, and Short Circuit

    I read about chargers and it results from the fact that they are still checking the D +, D- resistance, I used the charger before the pad that has Quickcharge, but it probably should not damage the device. All in all, I didn't check for short circuits or D +, D- resistance - could it affect a simple charger that I also tried to charge?
  • #6 17261105
    diantus
    Level 32  
    Parallel to the battery is the Zener diode on the board, which has a puncture. You must find and replace it. Disconnect the battery and search with an ohmmeter.
  • #7 17261853
    mlukjani
    Level 12  
    diantus wrote:
    Parallel to the battery is the Zener diode on the board, which has a puncture. You must find and replace it. Disconnect the battery and search with an ohmmeter.


    Thanks for the suggestions.
    I did not find the zener, there is a Schottki diode (SS52), I desoldered it and it is not conductive in one direction, the other has a resistance of about 2.2kOhma. I gave it a different try and the effect was the same. The diode is between Vcc USB and GND. After removing it, the charger stopped flashing, but that's probably because I opened the circuit.

    Parallel to the battery, no diodes and no resistance between poles (on the board).
    D +, D- contacts shorted to GND.
  • #8 17261954
    diantus
    Level 32  
    Take photos relatively perpendicular to the plate from both sides to part of the plate near the battery connection so that you can deduce something.
    What is the resistance between the battery attachment points? Of course after disconnecting the battery. Aim in both directions.
    I don't understand what "lack of resistance" means - break or short circuit.
    Mark the battery + and - points on the photo.
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  • #9 17262581
    mlukjani
    Level 12  
    diantus wrote:
    Take photos relatively perpendicular to the plate from both sides to part of the plate near the battery connection so that you can deduce something.
    What is the resistance between the battery attachment points? Of course after disconnecting the battery. Aim in both directions.
    I don't understand what "lack of resistance" means - break or short circuit.
    Mark the battery + and - points on the photo.


    At the battery connector, the resistance appears in about 150kOhm and increases to about 200kOhmn, the other way round (from 180kOhm).
    On the USB side there is 4.2kOhm and 5.4kOhm the other way.
    It looks like this:
    Tronsmart T6 Portable Speaker Not Charging: Issues with MicroUSB, Warm Port, and Short Circuit20180606_2..38p.jpg Download (399.6 kB)

    The battery connector is on the right, it is marked with + and -, the connector can be seen USB can be seen on the edge of the picture on the right

    Tronsmart T6 Portable Speaker Not Charging: Issues with MicroUSB, Warm Port, and Short Circuit20180606_2..20p.jpg Download (627.61 kB)
  • #10 17263381
    diantus
    Level 32  
    The measurement results do not show a short circuit in the battery circuit. Check the same between the edge (1st and 4th) USB pins.
    Attach some 5A DC 5V power supply in place of the battery, check if the amplifier works normally.

Topic summary

The Tronsmart T6 portable speaker is experiencing charging issues, characterized by a warm microUSB port, failure to charge, and blinking LED indicating a potential short circuit. The user reported that the battery voltage dropped to 0V, and after a brief charge, it reached 6V, which is excessive for a 3.7V Li-Ion battery. Suggestions from the forum included checking the battery and charging system, with recommendations to replace the battery with a functional one for testing. The user noted that the board does not function without the battery connected, and further investigation revealed a Schottky diode that was not conductive in one direction. Resistance measurements indicated no short circuit in the battery circuit, but further checks on the USB pins and power supply connections were advised to diagnose the issue.
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