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Windows 10 (1803 Update) Network Visibility Issue: Computers Not Seeing Each Other on LAN

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  • #1 17271191
    davixx12
    Level 10  
    Hi. I have a problem with the visibility of two devices. I have a desktop computer connected via cable to a router and a laptop connected via wifi to the same router. Both devices work on Windows 10. In May I updated the system to version 1803 (April 2018 Update), in which the homegroup was removed. From that moment on, strange things started to happen to the LAN. In both computers the internet works fine, but the computers have a problem with visibility of each other. Depending on which computer I run first, only one of them sees the other one, and the other one sees nothing. After restarting both, it often happens that the latter sees the former but the former cannot see the latter but never see each other - just a lottery. By "sees" I mean access to files and printers of the latter hardware. I tried many options to solve this problem - I read forums, watched guides but nothing of that. I have no idea what happened ... although I emphasize that before the system update, the computers communicated with each other without any problem. Please help.
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  • #2 17271216
    mandrake13
    Level 27  
    Set network profile as "private network" .

    M $ changed something in DNS during the update and computers do not want to see each other by hostnames. My recommendation would be to give the computers a fixed IP on the router and then the IP would call them .

    And on the subject of authentication: add a plate to the Windows Credential Manager :
    :arrow: Control panel (icon view) :arrow: Credential Manager :arrow: Add Windows credential :arrow: you enter the name of the computer / host on which the Symfonia + login + password is and it should work (;

    This is what it might look like, but instead of the name, I suggest using a specific IP:
    Windows 10 (1803 Update) Network Visibility Issue: Computers Not Seeing Each Other on LAN
    (screen from Win7, but the same for Win10)
  • #3 17274835
    davixx12
    Level 10  
    In Windows Credential Manager, both computers were already checked in, so I removed them and added them again. I assigned a fixed IP in the router, but it didn't change anything. It is still so that either both computers do not see anything, or after restarting, one sees the other but the other one does not see the first and so on. And all because of this system update ... instead of improving the system it just made a mess. I am still asking for tips in solving the problem.
  • #4 17274933
    mandrake13
    Level 27  
    Of course, the names of the computers are different? Set static IP on the level of network cards, with DNSy, enter the address of the router + some external one, eg Google 8.8.8.8 and see if they talk.

    Private network set up on both stations?
  • #5 17275048
    davixx12
    Level 10  
    Network set to private. I made a static IP on both as directed, restarted and still the same. This time, the laptop sees a stationary laptop, but not a stationary one. A massacre. Do you have any more ideas?
  • #6 17275102
    hermes-80
    Level 43  
    What will the command display in cmd start \\ {ip kompa}?
    Netbios enabled?
    No problem with permissions?
  • #7 17275144
    Skylakee
    Level 18  
    Turn off the firewall on both computers and then check. Sping first from the first, then from the second.
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  • #8 17275171
    davixx12
    Level 10  
    hermes-80 wrote:
    What will the command display in cmd start \\ {ip kompa}?
    Netbios enabled?
    No problem with permissions?

    When I entered this command in cmd, a small window popped up that the windows system could not access, but when I entered it on the laptop, a desktop folder was displayed [now the laptop sees everything around, and the stationary one does not]
    As for netbios, I have it set to default.

    Regarding disabling the firewall, I tried it a long time and it did not work.

    As I entered in cmd: PING (IP number of the second computer), they can easily see each other there
  • #9 17275220
    hermes-80
    Level 43  
    In the properties of shared folders (PPM on folder / properties), add the group Guests (in security and sharing) - with full access.
    Is the same workgroup set up on both computers?
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  • #10 17275235
    davixx12
    Level 10  
    Unfortunately no changes :(
  • #11 17275244
    mandrake13
    Level 27  
    Credentials tags entered on both computers? Any antivirus / firewall installed? Maybe enable explicit share access when sharing
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  • #12 17275247
    davixx12
    Level 10  
    Of course, the plates on both computers. I don't have any antivirus, only Defender (I turned it off too, but no changes).
    What do you mean by open access to shares?
  • #13 17275271
    mandrake13
    Level 27  
    Sorry, I was imprecise. I mean, file sharing and network folder discovery are enabled, and shared resources are accessed by a clearly defined user / group, both on the sharing and security tab
  • #14 17277166
    davixx12
    Level 10  
    Today, another evening, I tried to do something about my problem and ... it worked!
    It is enough to change a few things in the administration tools, and more precisely in the component services, and the local network flies beautifully.
    This video helped me 100%, it is true that it concerns connecting two laptops with a cable, but it also works via wifi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEydJb-8RCk
    The shocking thing is that if you want to do a simple task like sharing files between two computers you have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to do it. I like news, updates, but in this situation I must say that XP or WIN7 were simply less problematic.
    Nevertheless, I would like to thank everyone for their help and efforts to solve the problem.
  • #15 17376875
    RamboAR
    Level 7  
    Hello,
    I got the same thing, no advice mentioned above helped. Any additional ideas?
  • #16 17376940
    hermes-80
    Level 43  
    So what? Have you installed the smb1 protocol on systems above 7?
    I somehow never had problems with the visibility of files between xp and 10/8.
  • #17 17376952
    RamboAR
    Level 7  
    hermes-80 wrote:
    So what? Have you installed the smb1 protocol on systems above 7?
    I somehow never had problems with the visibility of files between xp and 10/8.


    What are you writing about ? what system 7? After all, we are talking about windows 10.
  • #19 17376979
    RamboAR
    Level 7  
    hermes-80 wrote:
    Pings go from computer to computer and the other way?
    Static IP on IPv4 protocols?
    Configured on both and the other according to the video above?
    What is the result of calling the IP of a given computer?
    This: configured correctly https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3470684.html#17275220?


    Exactly, and still an ass.
  • #20 17376981
    hermes-80
    Level 43  
    Any particulars? What happens after the computer is accessed via IP? or in cmd start \\ (IP) Firewall open to a private network - LAN assigned to private networks, not public ones?
  • #21 17376993
    RamboAR
    Level 7  
    nothing happens as if they were turned off the internet is working fine.
  • #22 17387368
    RamboAR
    Level 7  
    Swapped wifi for cable and everything works fine. Fuck .. M $.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a network visibility issue following the Windows 10 (1803 Update) where two devices—a desktop connected via Ethernet and a laptop connected via Wi-Fi—are unable to see each other on the LAN. Users suggest various troubleshooting steps including setting the network profile to "private," assigning static IP addresses, checking Windows Credential Manager, ensuring NetBIOS is enabled, and disabling firewalls. Despite these efforts, the problem persists, with intermittent visibility between the devices. A solution is eventually found by adjusting settings in the administration tools and component services, which resolves the issue. Users express frustration over the complexity of file sharing in Windows 10 compared to previous versions like XP and Windows 7.
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