Krups Evidence EA892D: Brew Group Cleaning Tips - Comparing with Saeco, Siemens, De'Longhi

Good morning everyone

I wanted to ask for advice on cleaning the brew group. Previous machines that I had the opportunity to use (Saeco, Siemens and De'Longhi) had a removable and easy to clean brewing module. Now I'm thinking about buying a new Krups Evidence espresso machine (model EA892D), but in Krupsach as far as I know there is no easy access to the block and the instruction also says nothing about its cleaning (rinsing) under running water.

The question is, is it from your experience that the automatic cleaning provided in Krupsach is sufficient and the block will not "bloom" after a long time? Somehow it is hard for me to believe that coffee does not spill coffee from the inside of the espresso machine. Unless I have not read something and the manufacturer envisages removing coffee residues from the inside of the machine ...

You think well, the solution is not very good when it comes to aesthetic and functional issues.
While the tablet can clean the brew chamber, everything around you already need to do through the service.

I asked about it "at the source" and they told me that in Evidence and in other models also, but in Evidence something has to be improved, there is such a design that it does not fall apart inside ... Apparently in Jura coffee machines it is, and as far as I know these are good and valued espresso machines.

Damn, I don't know anymore. I have about PLN 2,500 to spend and this is the EA892D right now, because it's in a home & cook promotion. I wonder whether to take this krups or Saeco Incanto or maybe Nivona 670.

I also read something about Krups failure rate, but these were entries from 2015/2016 so maybe something has improved now. However, this is a few years ... What do you think, can you advise something ...?

pmisz wrote:

(...) What do you think, can you advise something ...?

The jura block is a completely different construction - Yes, it can get dirty, but it is a purely mechanical archaic crusher worth recommending.
KRUPS is a hydraulic cylinder, which, unfortunately, requires a lot of operational care from time to time and still has so-called material fatigue, which can not be said about Jura.

If I had to spend 2500 PLN for a coffee machine:

If mainly black coffee and sporadically frothed milk - DeLonghi with manual nozzle
If mainly milk coffees - Jura as a last resort Nivon, though and about Saeco you can be tempted.

KRUPS I would not consider at all knowing him "from the inside".

Joining in. Krups gets dirty all the time from the first coffee. After 3 years it looked like the following. It was regularly washed, cleaned, descaled. I had to mechanically dismantle and clean each component and wash with baking soda and vinegar. After the first coffee, it was sprinkling sideways again, hehe.
Life on the other hand was growing in the lower tube from the flow meter, brrr.