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[Solved] Effective Methods for Concealing and Insulating Air Conditioner Wall Holes Post-Removal

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  • #1 17449044
    Rzesz
    Level 5  
    In the apartment in the block there was an air conditioner on the balcony. It was removed when the balcony was being renovated. Cooling ducts have been removed, there is a hole in the wall that looks ugly. In the room, the internal unit is still hanging on the wall and I want to download it too. Eliminate the klime. I have a question about how best to machine this hole through the wall to hide it and eliminate it. So that it would not be visible and that the cold would not penetrate the winter. There will also be holes in the middle of the pins after the internal device how to eliminate it. work.
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  • #2 17449091
    barteksmrek
    Level 28  
    Fill the hole with foam. After drying, cut the foam. Fill and paint the color of the wall.
  • #3 17471980
    Szczepcio
    Level 12  
    Or press a piece of polystyrene and apply glue to polystyrene, prime it (you can also plaster it with construction gypsum because it dries quickly) and only then fill it, prime it and paint it.
    A question from another barrel .... why did my friend remove the air conditioner??
  • #4 17472012
    Rzesz
    Level 5  
    the air conditioning was removed because there was a lot of moisture underneath, because of the green tiles in the autumn - according to the service technician's info, the market air conditioning has been leaking for several years. I didn't pay attention to it, so I had to repair the balcony. because the water broke my shallows in the winter.
  • #5 17472105
    Szczepcio
    Level 12  
    but it was the leak in the condensate drain? I installed it in an apartment and so far I have no such problems. 2nd year. I drained the condensate with tubes to a bucket and collected water for watering the flowers.
  • #6 17472163
    Rzesz
    Level 5  
    according to the service technician's information, the air conditioning was already leaking during operation due to age. and she was about 6 years old
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  • #7 17473010
    Chris_W

    Level 39  
    Rzesz wrote:
    according to the service technician's information, the air conditioning was already leaking during operation due to age. and she was about 6 years old

    I don't know what he meant exactly, but it seems like nonsense.
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  • #8 17473085
    Rzesz
    Level 5  
    Chris_W wrote:
    Rzesz wrote:
    according to the service technician's information, the air conditioning was already leaking during operation due to age. and she was about 6 years old

    I don't know what he meant exactly, but it seems like nonsense.


    the main problem was this moisture under the air conditioner and next to it and the green goo that formed there during the autumn and winter. usually it was proposed to replace the air conditioner with a new one - eventually I removed it completely.
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  • #9 17474748
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    No sense. I have several liters of water per day under the outdoor unit in winter. It is enough to drain it, e.g. with a gutter, and the problem is over.
  • #10 17527561
    swt22
    Level 11  
    Whether the oldest or the newest, always in heating mode, the outdoor unit will drip water when it is de-icing. In cooling mode, it must be discharged from the indoor unit. You can to the bucket on the balcony. But most air conditioners are installed in the summer and no one thinks about draining the melting ice from the outdoor unit. And this installation company does not cover the topic at all. Physics hasn't changed in 6 years.
  • #11 17529546
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    So he got scammed. They knew the cause of the condensation, covered it up and wanted to sell a new air conditioner. :)
  • #12 17529673
    swt22
    Level 11  
    Well, after all, the external unit called the condenser in the heating mode changes the circulation and there is dew there, turning into frosting and icing. The air conditioners have the Defrost function, which changes the circulation for a few minutes, turning off the indoor unit fan, and then the outdoor unit heats up, dropping frost and ice in the form of water. And that's how every air conditioner works, whether it's a market one or a Daikin top shelf. If we install an air conditioner for heating in sub-zero temperatures, ensure free drainage, or rather hang it high, because the water from the discharge will turn into ice and it will grow. So putting it on the floor is out of the question.
  • #13 17841090
    bejotek
    Level 2  
    Welcome gentlemen :)
    I'm new here. I haven't found any interesting answers to the questions I'm interested in on the forum, so I'm hooking up to the topic in the hope that someone will "give me" what I don't understand at all :D
    I'm talking about air conditioning, of course. I have it installed in the living room, and the condensate is discharged to the balcony to a large cylinder. The air conditioning has a heating function, there is no other source of heating in the apartment. And what about those drips? at the beginning of the "heating" season, I was pouring water out of my bottle, there were a few days when the water was very dirty - green. It surprised me, but I'm no specialist, so I don't know if it's normal or not. Also, I don't know if it's normal for it to run for a long time - about 8 - 12 hours/day and there is no condensation...
    In fact, this is not my first air-conditioning, we had 2 air-conditioners before, but in another house and there the water was flowing. And it's not really there at all.
    Well, my question is about these condensers. Is it supposed to be that water is not flowing or something is wrong.
    I want to add that I don't live in Poland but in "warm countries". :) temperatures in winter do not fall below zero, sometimes it can be really cold at night - about 2-5C, during the day, in the shade about 15-18C.
    Air conditioning is new, installed in the fall. Unfortunately, I don't really have anyone to ask here, so I'm asking you for information. If something is wrong, we can report it.
    Regards
    Beata
  • #14 17841125
    Chris_W

    Level 39  
    If these condensates are coming from the indoor unit, they will only be there when cooling the room - and if you are heating now, there will be no condensation (from the indoor unit).
    So in summer it flies, in winter it doesn't.
  • #15 17841202
    swt22
    Level 11  
    In the heating mode, the circuits are switched and the external unit, as someone called the condenser, becomes the evaporator. The amount of water in Defrost mode is strictly dependent on the humidity of the outside air. When the air is dry, it's almost gone. Such a situation will be in the room cooling mode and also the amount of condensation depends on the relative humidity of the air in the room. After a whole season of cooling, the outdoor unit working as a condenser picked up dirt, dust and other pollutants from the air, so the first water will simply fly with this garbage, although at the turn of the seasons cleaning of the units and decontamination of the indoor unit should be done.
  • #16 17842485
    bejotek
    Level 2  
    Thank you very much for your quick replies :)
    The situation has already clarified a bit and I know why in the previous house the water was flowing "trickly". :D It was summer, and the air conditioners were on cooling mode :D
    The one we currently have (we changed the apartment and sold the previous ones to new tenants) is new. It was purchased and installed in November. Which is why I was surprised to see dirty water coming out of it. I cleaned the filters in the indoor unit once, the heating season is coming to an end, so I will probably clean them again at the end of the month. In the summer, we will rather not use it for cooling, because the apartment does not require it. Last year it was very hot, and the temperature at home did not exceed 28 - 30C. In the old house it reached 40C !!!!! I couldn't live without air conditioning.
    I want to buy another 2 air conditioners in the fall, so during the installation I will ask you to clean the one that is already there. Unless you can do it yourself, but I suspect not.
    By the way, if I don't know something, I prefer to look for info on Polish forums, because here, in this respect, it's just a massacre.
    I'll give you an example:
    I've had a driving license for a very long time and I drive a lot, I've had a few in my life. Thanks to this, I know something about them, although I'm not a mechanic :D My rear window wiper broke down, something with the electrics, because sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. We were changing our place of residence, so I didn't know where I could find a decent mechanic-electrician. I went to ask a neighbor who, by the way, deals with, among other things, selling cars, where is a repair shop in the area. I sent my message and am waiting for a reply. The guy looks at me and looks, finally says, we're going to your car, I'll show you what needs to be done, because you don't know where the rear wiper goes :D :D :D
    With this statement, the guy disarmed me completely, I laughed a hundred times, and I did not get the answer to the question :D I found myself :D
    Unfortunately, here (Portugal) gentlemen like and respect women very much, but they think that we have tiny brains, we can't do anything, we don't know anything and we don't understand anything :D
    kind regards
    Beata

    Added after 26 [minutes]:

    Thank you very much for your quick replies :)
    The situation has already clarified a bit and I know why in the previous house the water was flowing "trickly". :D It was summer, and the air conditioners were on cooling mode :D
    The one we currently have (we changed the apartment and sold the previous ones to new tenants) is new. It was purchased and installed in November. Which is why I was surprised to see dirty water coming out of it. I cleaned the filters in the indoor unit once, the heating season is ending, so I will probably clean them again at the end of the month. In the summer, we will rather not use it for cooling, because the apartment does not require it. Last year it was very hot, and the temperature at home did not exceed 28 - 30C. In the old house it reached 40C !!!!! I couldn't live without air conditioning.
    I want to buy another 2 air conditioners in the fall, so during the installation I will ask you to clean the one that is already there. Unless you can do it yourself, but I suspect not.
    By the way, if I don't know something, I prefer to look for info on Polish forums, because here, in this respect, it's just a massacre.
    I'll give you an example:
    I've had a driving license for a very long time and I drive a lot, I've had a few in my life. Thanks to this, I know something about them, although I'm not a mechanic :D My rear window wiper broke down, something with the electrics, because sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. We were changing our place of residence, so I didn't know where I could find a decent mechanic-electrician. I went to ask a neighbor who, by the way, deals with, among other things, selling cars, where is a repair shop in the area. I sent my message and am waiting for a reply. The guy looks at me and looks, finally says, we're going to your car, I'll show you what needs to be done, because you don't know where the rear wiper goes :D :D :D
    With this statement, the guy disarmed me completely, I laughed a hundred times, and I did not get the answer to the question :D I found myself :D
    Unfortunately, here (Portugal) gentlemen like and respect women very much, but they think that we have tiny brains, we can't do anything, we don't know anything and we don't understand anything :D
    kind regards
    Beata
    Ps.
    Swt 22, unfortunately, I do not know how it relates to the parameters, but I live not far from the ocean. The air here is very humid. And it doesn't really matter if it's summer or winter. The ocean does its thing. Only in summer, the air is drier during the day. I have a weather station at home and it happened many times that the air humidity was 70% with the air conditioning system working. I'm talking about winter and heating. I rarely look at the humidity outside, but it is enough, for example, to leave the laundry overnight on the balcony, and in the morning it is wetter than the previous evening. In the morning, all the cars in the neighborhood are wet, and I live in an apartment complex :) And that's why I was wondering about the lack of condensation. It rains very rarely here, if it does, it's really hard. I remember that once, during such rainy weather, there was about 12 - 15l of condensate. And now there isn't at all :)
  • #17 17843247
    swt22
    Level 11  
    I already explain to you. The outdoor unit, working in the heating mode, absorbs heat from the environment and its "cooler" gets colder and colder, and thus dew is formed on its surface and when the ambient temperature is low, it freezes. It may be that the fan of this unit is able to remove the dew from the heat exchanger plates and spray it around. however, once it freezes, the air conditioner will periodically go into defrost mode to remove the ice from the heat exchanger. It will then rotate the circuit, and heat the radiator of the outdoor unit for a few minutes to melt the ice, and then the water will come out. If there are conditions for drying the evaporator on a regular basis through the fan of the outdoor unit, or air movement, water will not collect, because it is ventilated on an ongoing basis. And here a lot depends on the choice of power, because an air conditioner that is too small in terms of power will surely freeze up faster, and a larger one that is correctly selected later. It's so short. Regards.
  • #18 17843791
    bejotek
    Level 2  
    ha!!!!
    I'm already a specialist :D :D :D :D :D
    thank you very much, now i can say i understand :D
    the unit is selected with more power than needed for the "service",, salon :) once it happened that the outdoor unit was iced up, it was very cold and virtually no wind. As I wrote, I live not far from the ocean, and this means that there are winds almost all the time. Sometimes weaker, sometimes stronger. So I suppose they dry out the outdoor unit :)
    Thanks again for the info and best regards :)
  • #19 17843905
    swt22
    Level 11  
    I explained a little "lopathologically", not very professionally, but it's good that I understood. You wrote about cleaning the filters, this is user service, depending on the room, once every 1-2 months. But you also need to periodically clean, especially the inside of the indoor unit (these lamellas) and once a year the evaporator. In cooling mode, water collects there and creates conditions for the life of very dangerous bacteria. New types of air conditioners have the so-called drying program, i.e. after turning off the air conditioner in cooling mode, its internal fan continues to operate for, for example, 15 minutes, designed to dry the inside of the indoor unit to get rid of moisture. But cleaning is a matter for the service and dedicated professional means.
  • #20 17845999
    bejotek
    Level 2  
    swt22 thank you very much for the additional information :)
    Just because you translated "lopathologically" :D I, a complete and irreformable layman, understand :)
    For purely personal reasons, it is very important to me, even though technical matters are not "the plot",, women, but men. You are usually the one who deals with these things.
    Most of the issues you have raised should be handed over to me by a service technician, both when we were installing 2 air conditioning systems in the previous house and also now, here. Unfortunately, no one communicated anything, only what to set on the remote control. The instruction manual is there, but in Portuguese - technical matters - a greater complication to understand everything well ...
    Thanks to your advice, I know what to require for the next assembly and how to ensure that the equipment, which does not cost a little, serves without failure as long as possible :)
    As I wrote earlier, I don't live in Poland and here nobody really cares if the service of anything is correct. Such a mentality :) On the one hand, it has its pluses, but also very often also minuses...
    And the gentlemen from the air conditioning next time will have their eyes wide open with surprise that I want,, some cleaning, disinfection or whatever else is needed :D
    kind regards
    Beata
  • #21 17846072
    swt22
    Level 11  
    They take their own work and money. Servicing and cleaning with air conditioning disinfection is a good income for the company, especially since they can be performed in the gaps between assemblies. And the money from how you get the equipment is good. If you are clean and dust-free (do not sweep while the air conditioner is operating), then buy the best Virusolve+ disinfectant in my opinion and spray the evaporator with the solution given in the instructions twice a year when cleaning the filters. The second application of this preparation is the sterilization of medical tools, so the preparation is as professional as possible and is also certified for air-conditioning applications. if you buy 1 package, it will last you for a few years.
  • #22 17914833
    Rzesz
    Level 5  
    air conditioning removed problem solved

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around effective methods for concealing and insulating wall holes left after the removal of an air conditioner. Suggestions include filling the holes with foam, using polystyrene with glue, and applying plaster or paint to match the wall. The conversation also touches on issues related to moisture and leaks from air conditioning units, with users sharing experiences of condensate drainage and maintenance. The importance of proper installation and regular cleaning of air conditioning units is emphasized to prevent future problems.
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