Choosing a boiler for eco-pea coal - Defro, Ogniwo, Kołton, Krzaczek, Pleszew.

I need to choose a 5th class eco-pea coal stove to heat my home, instead of a fireplace with a water jacket that I currently heat, a house of 230 m2. The house is insulated with mineral wool from the inside. Each of the contractors recommends a different boiler - Defro, Ogniwo, Kołton, Krzaczek and Hartman, Pleszew, etc.

@chief http://ranking.czysteogrzewanie.pl/szukaj/4pcd

I have read the ranking of boilers some time ago, but thank you for the info. I am more interested in the opinion of people who have eco-pea coal boilers, such as Defro, comfort, eco, Lux, how is the service, failure rate - or, for example, Ogniwo Eko Plus M.

I have a Defro 15kw eco lux
It works very well - it burns eco-pea coal perfectly, good ergonomics of the ash pan
The driver is easy to use and readable

Thank you for the information about the cleaning of the given oven. So I am inclined to buy Defro, although in the ranking just Ogniwo has a better rating and dimensionally it is smaller, which is a plus for me because I have a small boiler room.

I have an eco plus M (20kW) link, cleaning consists only in starting and turning the levers from the top of the furnace.
The ash pan is quite large, in addition, there is indeed a self-cleaning inside the combustion chamber, it only scrapes off the tar once every 2 months, but it is in sight. The combustion economy is also good and the 5th class can be clearly felt in your pocket, previously I had a "toothbiec" boiler and there is no comparison in every respect.

Thank you for the answer, I read a bit about these two boilers and I am convinced of the Cell, e.g. because of easy cleaning. Remix1 I still have a question about the size of the house you heat with the given boiler, is it better to choose 16 KW instead of 20 KW. The house from the 70s is 230 m2 insulated from the inside with 10 cm mineral wool, new windows, the attic is not insulated with wool, as it will be possible before winter.

I bought 20kW due to the fact that it will ultimately serve the same space.
Over 100-year-old multi-family house with PVC windows, 3 insulated walls with 8cm styrofoam, heated middle floor (100m2) of the building, ground floor heated very occasionally and partially with other heat sources, no insulation in the attic and attic for 8cm of clay.
The average seasonal power for me is 5-6kw, currently 4 and max 8-10 (February), including hot water heating.
In addition, the stove is located in another building, the room must be heated and there are losses on the pipeline (17m long underground)

I am of the opinion that after insulating the attic, the furnace will pull the whole house and it would be enough for a smaller row, but I preferred to be safe because this furnace has a maximum power of 20kW and the 20kW cells would be signed by another company as 16 because usually the furnace will go above the nominal value.

The stove is doing very well (even better than at high power) at its minimum power.
Unfortunately, without OZC, it's hard to shoot with power, but the result from the heat-appropriate side is fairly reliable.

If you want, I can glue up the charts as it was done last year because Ecoal has such an option.

I would like to add that the furnace itself meets my expectations and the only thing I would like to do is to automatically discharge the ash from the furnace, it is the only unpleasant activity because it is dusty when pouring it from the ash pan into the bag / bucket.
I thought about the disadvantages for a while and the biggest one will be the firing up, due to the design of the exchanger and the flue gas circuit, quite a lot is released into the boiler room at the time of firing up.

If I had to choose today, it would be either a link or a seko maxxx le (but that was not the case when I bought the boiler).

Thanks, I checked again for the heat pump and I get 16 KW, so I will decide to buy 20 KW, because there is no 16th class from the cell. As soon as it is mounted, I will let you know how it works and, if necessary, I will ask for help in setting.

When I had not planned gas yet, I visited several salons, looked at forums, dtrki etc. etc.
If you read it correctly, you will not buy this junk called a link and do not be fooled by this "cleaning in a white shirt". See the guarantees and the sheet metal what they do it with and the entries are a lot. At Defro, you will overpay for the brand (the burners are EkoEnergia).
I really narrowed down to MetalFach and Logiterm and then to Logiterm because it has the thickest plate on the exhaust side and a simple - not an emergency controller. The seller showed me all the guts of these boilers from the inside. And since he was retiring in a few days, he had a commission in 4 letters, etc., he only honestly presented the case.
Eventually, I put on gas, but if I chose coal, it would be Logiterm.
I hope you didn't buy this Biecz.

Of course, you can also weld a feeder into the trash can, insert any driver and present it as a cheap and reliable option, and in the event of a failure, the cost will disappear ...
However, when it comes to research in an accredited center, suddenly these wonderful boilers whose threads are 300 pages long on forums (e.g. RBR) where they praise and convince their sellers, making fun of the tested boilers in particular, but their paper wonders do not get, and you can after all, raise the price by 2,000 for the "safe conduct" alone, what is unprofitable?

If someone is afraid of a boiler plate, you can add a corrosion inhibitor to start, and the safe return temperature should be the priority in the boiler automatics.
You can buy a cast iron in good money, e.g. Berski, the durability of sheets is definitely higher, but we are talking about burning fuel for PLN 800-900 per ton, so the efficiency alone will pay off the surplus investment cost, I have a direct comparison with the earlier boiler which was also "recommended" proudly written efficiency of 80%!

Of course, the author will buy the boiler according to his preferences, because it is his money and his home, but it should be noted that the list of 5-class boilers with accredited tests is not too long.

I haven't bought a boiler yet, but it is a matter of a few days, I also looked at this Seko Maxx and I will tell you some interesting solutions and as for "cleaning in a white shirt", it is no exaggeration, in the end, the boiler room is currently in my living room - a fireplace with a water jacket. I also read various forums and opinions about boilers and it is really a difficult matter and how many people have so many opinions, but in the end you have to choose and it is worth listening to people who have a given boiler and use it. Probably most manufacturers of boilers make of similar sheet thickness, except for boilers that go to supermarkets, because there you know the savings to the maximum.

This seko le maxxx seems to be a great choice, but I do not know the opinion about the failure rate, because there are a lot of drives, this stove is probably the best construction and the price is also great, in this case the white shirt is the most real.

The failure rate, especially of the cleaning system, may be the problem, I was also considering the Kołton boilers because they are produced near me, which were also recommended by plumbers, but I noticed that who trades what he recommends. As for Mark`o's statements, unfortunately reading forums, you can read negative opinions about most boilers. And I believe that the more crazy the driver, the faster things can go wrong, often also due to the user's fault or ignorance.

Cleaning is very easy in Defro
In the lower door there is a tub that can be taken out with the ash, in addition, there is a shovel in the set to remove the remains.
If you want to clean the burner, you force the feeder forward and remove the excess ash into the tray
So much for cleaning

I decided to use the Ogniwo Eko Plus M 20 KW stove, so I consider the topic to be exhausted, at least for me, what the future will show.

Tell me why did you choose this boiler?

How the OGNIWO eco plus M 20 kW boiler works, I am also going to buy, what kind of combustion, problems and overall impressions.

Hello, general impression ok, the boiler is not very large, which was also a plus, so far there has been no breakdown (one broken pin after a pea coal) and let it stay that way. As for the minuses, for example, the door on a magnet likes to open, cleaning is ok, as well as burning if you get to the right settings. I try to use the same eco-pea coal so I have no major problems after selecting the parameters, at the beginning it happened to go out in the summer season, the driver is also sufficient for me, although it is known that you can always add something.

I am also happy, the only thing I miss is the ash dumping car what magnet door opens? The magnets are there only at the sensors.
Due to a failure, in the 4th heating season, the ash melted into the fireclay and cracked, I had to replace it and that's it.

Chief, what kind of door is magnetic? And why did it go out in summer?

Hello, do you recommend boilers from Lazar?
Heard they said good equipment and great customer service

HELLO.

I HAVE DEFRO

chief wrote:

for example, Defro comfort eco Lux, how is the handling, failure rate - or for example, Ogniwo Eko Plus M.

I have a DEFRO EKO DUO 20KW with a screw conveyor and it is already 6 years (heating). This is the first model that came out of this type, because it has a different type of handle. The controller (ST-S7 / St-480TECH) is simple with LCD, no exiting smoke temperature fancy stuff, no caloric combustion etc. but it has everything you need to monitor the operation of the furnace. He pours "dry eco-pea coal plus construction lime 0.6-1 kg for each eco-pea bag" - I set the feeding time to 6 seconds, the pause time 45 seconds, the fan at 11% aperture 50-65%. Central heating temperatures 50C boiler 300L 41C. And I'm practically quiet for a week.

The second thing is the sheet metal used inside the furnace is 5mm, and sometimes thicker in some places - SOLID.



If I would choose it with DEFRO, maybe a charging furnace easier to use for novices, women, elderly people. You cover the wood with coal and cover it again in 8-12 hours.

If you have an eco-pea coal stove with a feeder, choose it with a rotating grate.