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Toyota Yaris 1 (benz.1.0) - Starter does not turn (ignites at pride)

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  • #1 17522290
    wisz
    Level 10  
    Hello. I have a problem with Toyota Yaris 1 with 1.0 petrol engine. After stopping the car and turning off the running engine, the attempt to start again failed. Details of the operating symptoms in this condition are as follows: after turning the key in the ignition, the lights come on, the electromagnet in the starter is not clicked, the starter does not turn, the engine does not start. I will add that when you try to start, the lights do not even "dim" for a moment, which would mean that the impulse of current consumption from the battery by the main circuit of the starter is not present. The car was able to ignite "pride", thanks to which it was possible to reach the destination.
    I suspect damage to: the solenoid circuit fuse (if there is such protection) or the relay in this circuit (if present) or the solenoid in the starter or the power supply cable of this solenoid.
    The question is, in this model, the starter solenoid circuit has protection and possibly a relay? Common sense should be like that. Unfortunately, I do not know this car enough, hence I do not know exactly which elements are in the fuse box (as I guess the box is in the engine compartment). I want to check these elements before making a decision about going to the workshop, because it can be restored to the vehicle at a low cost. Thank you in advance for all suggestions.
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  • #2 17522361
    moto-kord
    Level 28  
    Hello, check the fuse and the relay are in the engine compartment.
  • #3 17522508
    CameR

    Moderator of Vehicle Security
    Clutch pedal depressed during start-up?
    Is the clutch pedal sensor OK?
    Anything diagnosed - though a "light bulb", there is a control voltage on the starter solenoid?
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #4 17522536
    jerry1960
    Level 36  
    I suspect the ignition block or the relay.
  • #5 17522562
    badyl666
    Level 18  
    Hello. Check the fuse first and then the relay.
    Toyota Yaris 1 (benz.1.0) - Starter does not turn (ignites at pride)
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  • #6 17522653
    wisz
    Level 10  
    Hello. Thank you for your quick response colleagues. I haven't diagnosed anything yet. The description I made was based on the story of a car user who has so much in common with the automotive industry that he drives this car and has nothing to do with electrical engineering or electronics. I'll do the tests and see what the result will be.
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  • #7 17522692
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    Check briefly if it's spinning. That's where starters fall. Without any symptom. And when you press the clutch listen to the knock of the relay?
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  • #8 17523783
    wisz
    Level 10  
    I just did the first tests. Unfortunately, outside, when it was raining, so I didn't delve too much. In the fuse box - the fuse is OK (like the others). When turning the key in the ignition (when the clutch is depressed), there is no click of the relay or the electromagnet from the starter, although the display of the speedometer goes out (but this is probably how it normally is; the other lights do not go out). The voltage meter does not show a temporary decrease in voltage on the battery. The system of relays and fuses is slightly different from the one given in the diagram above. Many fuse and relay sockets are empty (the car is poorly equipped). For example, in the place indicated as the ST Relay (stater) relay, there is a relay with a different lead arrangement. Rather, it resembles the circuit shown for the two relays below. This relay (and only him) has an orange housing, while the others are gray. I took it out of the socket and had two "knife" slides wider, which I think is the relay coil leads and three more "knife" narrower, which indicates the COM-NO-NC terminals. The ohmmeter shows no value on the coil terminals. Was the whipped coil in the relay? I did not try to start the starter "briefly" because of the rain. Someone from my colleagues suggested a possible fault in the ignition socket. Of course this is also possible. Nevertheless, it seems that we are dealing rather with a break in duty. It remains to look for the starter relay and do the test "briefly". Where can you buy such a relay cheap? If the weather conditions improve, I will go back to testing. For now, I'm waiting for the weather to improve. Thank you for your interest in the topic so far.
  • #9 17523806
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    As the display goes out, the ignition switch works and the clutch relay also. As I remember, I am not mistaken.
  • #10 17523808
    mod22
    Level 28  
    Check the incandescent bulb for power to the starter solenoid during startup. You will know whether it is a starter or not.
  • #11 17523822
    abart64
    Level 33  
    The thinner legs of the relay are usually a coil and it is not surprising that the thicker ohmmeter shows nothing.
    If the relay opens the ignition-starter circuit, then one thick leg should show current after turning the ignition switch to start. Pass the cable plus to the other leg and if there is a slight sparking then the brushes have run out and if it turns off the ignition or switch on the clutch.
  • #12 17524016
    tomek2875
    Level 9  
    I think it's the ignition's fault. I had a similar problem but I left a pile of cash with electricians, which they exchanged, which even changed the battery. For me the problem was in the ignition switch but I was also immo. In general, a few staws went down the drain and the cost of the last repair is PLN 60. I also advise you to visit an electrician by calling ?
  • #13 20025190
    widmo82
    Level 12  
    wisz wrote:
    ....


    And what turned out? I have the same
  • #14 20025376
    Wawrzyniec
    Level 38  
    widmo82 wrote:
    And what turned out? I have the same
    So take out the relay, ignition key and paperclip where there were thick pins from the relay. If the starter is good, it should spin.
  • #15 20025755
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    widmo82 wrote:
    wisz wrote:
    ....


    And what turned out? I have the same

    And what do you think is the same for you. Because one symptom is different damage. What and in what order you should check the above. If you don't feel up to it, give it to someone. Although you can always deny yourself and trade for a club. They start with the battery and ending with the starter. Along the way, of course, a few things.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a starting issue with a Toyota Yaris 1 equipped with a 1.0 petrol engine. The user reports that after stopping the car, it fails to restart, with no click from the starter solenoid and no dimming of the lights when the ignition key is turned. Various potential causes are suggested, including a faulty fuse, relay, ignition switch, or starter solenoid. Users recommend checking the fuse and relay in the engine compartment, ensuring the clutch pedal is depressed during start-up, and testing for power at the starter solenoid. The user has conducted preliminary tests, confirming the fuse is intact but noting the absence of relay clicks or voltage drop during attempts to start. Further diagnostics are advised, including checking the ignition switch and possibly consulting an electrician.
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