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Cisco ECP 3928 Router Performance and RJ45 Socket Installation in Large Apartment

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  • #1 17556252
    Hate_me_now
    Level 2  
    Hello,
    I have a pretty weak wifi router (cisco ECP 3928) with vectra - speed 50 Mb, and I'm moving to a new apartment, which I'm currently renovating. The apartment is bigger and I'm afraid that the wifi will work on the principle of "disappearing and reappearing" - that's how it could work in the studio apartment. I would like to protect myself with rj 45 sockets in each room, and even have 2-3 such sockets in each room in case of rearrangement. I saw various topics on the forum + watched some videos on yt and there were more questions than answers.
    I know that I can run the cable from the router directly to the socket. Only that the router has 4 outputs, and the sockets should be: in 1 room - 2 sockets, in the second and third room, 3 sockets each. It is known that it is also not profitable to lay 2 cables on the same length so that one ultimately reaches the socket 4 meters further, even if there are not so many outputs in the router. I already know from the videos that you can earn a cable: 2 plugs into the router and 2 plugs into 2 sockets - but there are still not enough router outputs for the number of sockets in all rooms. (The question here is whether the transmission power would then decrease? And can it be somehow divided so that the power does not decrease)
    The question is also: instead of earning a cable, the most ordinary RJ45 SPLITER will work without a problem - that is, a cable comes out of the router -> then it goes to the splitter and from it 2 cables go to 2 sockets.
    I've seen a few topics that it won't work out and that you should rather earn a cable - is that true?
    And what to do if there are to be 3 sockets in the room…
    Is there also a possibility router -> cable -> socket - > and from the socket to the same plugs of the socket plugged in the same colors of cables going to the next socket (as if doubled as electricity can often be done)?
    Is there also a possibility Router-> cable -> double rj45 socket - the cable enters from the router into the 1st port of the socket, the 2nd port is connected to the next socket. And if you connect port 1 with 2 from the front of the socket with a short cable, does it work as an extension cord?
    Generally, in the apartment I thought of 8 sockets (2 rooms with 3 sockets, 1 with 2 sockets) rj45, and my router has 4 outputs. Is it technically possible to make such a network? Would I have to buy something? Or beg the operator to replace the router.
    Generally, you can always connect the router to the socket (room) and connect your own additional router there and there is coverage - but why connect so many devices under electricity. I'm wondering if it can be avoided, I'm also wondering during the renovation to avoid unnecessary installation of sockets as it's not supposed to work anyway.

    Apologies if this has already been discussed, in which case I'd like a link. I am also sorry because you can be more prepared for the topic instead of asking stupid questions, but I will soon have to lay the cables because the deadlines are chasing and the knowledge to acquire on your own requires more time, which unfortunately I do not have :(
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  • #2 17556257
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Cables for each LAN socket in the rooms are placed on the so-called. "star".
    So if there are 10 sockets, we put a minimum of 10 wires - one LAN cable per point.
    There are no games in sewing wires and a smaller number of wires, do not combine.
    If you need more sockets or access to the net - buy a switch.
    If you're doing a renovation, do it properly - because it already looks like a mess.

    Make sure that Vectra provides its services where you have moved.
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  • #3 17556268
    Hate_me_now
    Level 2  
    Thanks for the reply - regarding
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    If you're doing a renovation, do it properly - because it already looks like a mess.
    - then I'm just not very familiar with the subject and brainstormed all these ideas. Indeed, some of them were strange.

    It is a good idea to run separate wires for each socket, despite the costs (which are not large in the scale of the entire renovation). The only question I have about this switch - do I understand its function correctly (because I don't know what it is exactly). I connect a switch (eg LOGILINK MP0032) to 1 input in my router and there is the same transmission power in all 4 ports of the switch? So this option gives me 7 outputs (3 from the router and 4 from the switch) rj45 from which I can run 7 cables to 7 sockets and the internet will work flawlessly in each?
    If that's how it works, I'll do that.
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  • #4 17556270
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Hate_me_now wrote:
    it's just that I'm not well versed in the subject and brainstormed all these ideas. Indeed, some of them were strange.

    Ok, nothing happened - good that you asked.
    It should be remembered that the speeds of the Internet itself are increasing, so the cable structure must be ready to handle it - and it can only do so when it is done right.
    Since the cable is in the wall, it may be worth thinking about placing the cables in a pipe, a conduit - it is easier to replace such a cable in the event of a failure or problems with it.
    As for the LAN cable itself - I use Bitner cables (preferably):
    http://bitner.com.pl/produkty/szczegoly/122,katalog-bitlan-uutp-cat-5e-200mhz
    They have never let me down, so I'm not looking for another supplier (savings pay off quickly).
    Or even go cat6
    http://bitner.com.pl/produkty/szczegoly/128,katalog-bitlan-uutp-cat6-lsoh-350mhz
    Both cables will work without any problems with the net, transfer UP TO 1Gb - only the cat6 cable guarantees transmission above 1Gb (so more future-proof).
    Hate_me_now wrote:
    If that's how it works, I'll do that.

    That's exactly right - only better (in my opinion) to buy an 8-port switch (I recommend Netgear GS108 - lifetime warranty, metal housing and reliable) and connect all LAN cables to this switch (if necessary, we only reset the provider's modem and the LAN still functions internally when net comes back it will go back to devices automatically).

    And so slightly off the beaten track and with one renovation mess :D - since the renovation is to think about running (on the same principle as LAN) coaxial cables (at least 2 coaxial cables to each point on the star principle) - also a pipe or conduit and a cable inside.
    You can put coax and LAN in one conduit/pipe at the same time.
    Here, too, do not save - the TRISET 113 cable (I only use it myself).
    Maybe it's worth making a "central" for all the wiring somewhere - let it all come down there.
    As for the LAN / TV sockets themselves - it's at the very end and it's not worth bothering about now.
    Please also remember that the coaxial cable has a bend radius and it is NOT 45 degrees for a "sharp" bend - so you must not "push" the coaxial cable into any corners with such an angle! Bends must be gentle.
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  • #5 17556361
    Zutket
    Level 36  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    Or even go cat6
    In a LAN, let's say "home", laying cat 6 cables is an excess of form over substance, the more so that to achieve this category you must have all the equipment of this category, but why. I would focus more on laying cables to those points that actually require LAN, TV and other RTV equipment, not to mention the kitchen. Cat 6 cables are stiffer and will be more difficult to manage.
  • #6 17556773
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Zutket wrote:
    In a LAN, let's say "home", laying cat 6 cables is an excess of form over substance, the more so that to achieve this category you must have all the equipment of this category,

    Only the equipment you can replace yourself in 5 minutes.
    It takes hours and a minimum of 2 people to replace the cable.
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