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[Solved] Best Self-Shielding Wire for Lidl Welder to Reduce Spatter?

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  • #1 17735581
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    I have a question for you regarding the selection of a self-shielding wire.
    The welding device from Lidl has a wire attached to the welder, but it "splashes" like an electrode welder. Does anyone use any wire where there are not so many spatter and welding is similar to C02 gas welding? Kiswel, lincoln?
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  • #2 17739967
    hevet2
    Level 32  
    Yes, in CO2 welding machines
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  • #3 17743084
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    What's that answer?
  • #4 17743107
    hevet2
    Level 32  
    The "self-shell" will never weld perfectly, it has to be converted into gas or thrown away. A brief answer.
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    #5 17743175
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    If you have to do something once a Russian year, such a contraption is not bad.
    It is good for home work, first I welded the thresholds on the Nissan Micra, then and even from this:
    Best Self-Shielding Wire for Lidl Welder to Reduce Spatter?
    I did it:
    Best Self-Shielding Wire for Lidl Welder to Reduce Spatter?
    Here's a close-up.
    Best Self-Shielding Wire for Lidl Welder to Reduce Spatter?
  • #6 17743181
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    What does it mean "won't weld perfectly"?
  • #7 17743203
    hevet2
    Level 32  
    I am not saying that you cannot weld, but it will never look like "professional" welding.
    By the way, the welding in the pictures (do not be offended) confirms that you should not buy such welding machines.
    elektronikq wrote:
    what does it mean "won't weld perfectly"?

    You wrote yourself that it spits, splashes etc. that's what it means.
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    #8 17743222
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    Oh there, immediately tragedy :-P
    When I started to weld it, I was a novice. After a few days, when I finished welding UAZ, I am already a specialist. How much fun !!!

    In addition, no seam is visible under the paint
    Best Self-Shielding Wire for Lidl Welder to Reduce Spatter? Best Self-Shielding Wire for Lidl Welder to Reduce Spatter?
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  • #9 17743263
    hevet2
    Level 32  
    sanfran wrote:
    Oh there, immediately tragedy :-P
    When I started to weld it, I was a novice. After a few days, when I finished welding UAZ, I am already a specialist. How much fun !!!

    Satisfaction with your own work is paramount.
  • #10 17743339
    kierbedz4
    Level 36  
    And switch to the migomat that welds the wire on the spool and the mixture bottle is the handle of the migomat from Lidl you will not pick up in your hand. The self-shielding wire is relatively expensive and the welds after it are uninteresting and relatively wide. A migomat without a cylinder will never replace a welding migomat in a compound shield.
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    #11 17743361
    mychaj
    Level 35  
    I have had such a welder for 12 years (Lincoln).
    I had several wires and the Lincoln wire is the best for me.
    Somehow the others snot and splash more, the one Lincoln came out most evenly, and it was indeed a weld ...
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    #12 17743688
    kierbedz4
    Level 36  
    For some time, Lincoln has been working with Bester. The spatter is relatively strong when welding with carbon dioxide when welding with the mixture, this spatter is smaller.
  • #13 17743702
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    I welded with migomat and I do not have such splashes there. Due to the fact that I will use it occasionally, I wanted to buy a better wire. A colleague welded these cars on this Lidlowski?
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    #14 17743771
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    I bought my welder on ebay. The simplest it could be - 4 ranges, MIN / MAX on one switch and 1/2 on the other. It proudly says 100A. In addition, a potentiometer for the speed of wire movement. Wire 0.7 mm as far as I'm not mistaken. I think Lidlowska is similar.
    But is the wire expensive? A half-kilo roll costs about 5 pounds (i.e. 25 PLN) but I welded both sides of the UAZ and so from 3/4 of the roll it went. There are no reparature for the fenders, so I recreated the shape of the wheel arches by welding from small pieces of 1.2mm sheet metal, there was a bit of picking.

    I do not know how this machine behaves when welding something thicker because I did not have the opportunity, but I would rather not overheat it.
  • #15 17784013
    weryfany
    Level 27  
    Best Self-Shielding Wire for Lidl Welder to Reduce Spatter?

    When there is an arc, the wire feed slows down slightly, but this is the charm of a cheap welder.

    I bought it at an auction for PLN 280 - no occasion, I needed it and bought it (to pay someone if I can sleep alone)
    There was no wire included in the set, but I bought it for PLN 60 (probably 0.5 kg) as for occasional welding it was enough. But I have already had the opportunity to weld with a real gas shielded welder and there is no comparison in the end result. It is enough for welding once a year.
    Now, I would not buy it, I would rather add PLN 1000 and buy something for many years, even if I had to weld occasionally. I always thought that this gas was expensive and here my surprise when I found out what its price was, and the wire without a shield is cheaper by several hundred percent. It is better to buy good equipment and cheap materials than cheap equipment and expensive material that will not help anyway ;)
  • #16 17788339
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    The spawareczka is doing quite well, I welded a 1mm sheet and it can be welded. Lidl wire will be used for training and I will buy a Lincoln for welding. I think for the price it is ok.
    At first, the weld is so black. But when it is sanded it is ok, most importantly, without slag.
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    #17 18489570
    Masiu9
    Level 11  
    I also have a PFDS 120 A2 semi-automatic welding machine, I'm just a home DIY enthusiast, I welded my bests in a jiffy, welded the stairs with an MMA welder, now I bought Parkside and after a few small jobs I am satisfied. 4 mm angles can be welded and it will not burn 0.6 mm sheet metal. If someone is not very demanding and rarely welds, this is the welding machine for him. Yesterday I saw it on Lidl's shelf for PLN 199 so there is nothing to think about at all.
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    #18 18540823
    keseszel
    Level 26  
    I bought it for 200 in Lidl, Leroy Merlin wire by Harder, price for a 0.8 mm kg spool, about PLN 40. I have not welded it yet, so far only a transformer and an inverter. I am curious how it will go, I have a sheet metal to make in the car and some general cargo at home.
  • #19 18628173
    matador1112
    Level 9  
    Parkside PFDS 120 A2, PFDS 33B2 or cheap Chinese crap. I realized that it was more of an exhibit for a garage shelf than reliable welding devices as advertised by the well-known L-letter food chain. All series of this machine, because the manufacturer changed the markings, have a problem with the wire feeder. My first one fell after 10 snots, and the second one withstood about 40 point snags. When looking at the net, the problem often discussed is a damaged rectifier bridge, probably due to poor voltage stabilization during the start of welding, where the system is heavily loaded. The price range in which they were available 240 - 350 PLN does not cover the weight of the scrap of this device, even after selection for non-ferrous metals.
  • #20 18628895
    tida1
    Level 9  
    matador1112 wrote:
    Parkside PFDS 120 A2, PFDS 33B2, that is cheap Chinese crap .... When looking at the net, the problem often discussed is a damaged rectifier bridge, probably due to poor voltage stabilization when starting welding, where the system is heavily loaded.


    Such a flash (as, in principle, every simple transformer one) does not have any "stabilization" of the voltage.
  • #21 18629481
    Masiu9
    Level 11  
    matador1112 wrote:
    Parkside PFDS 120 A2, PFDS 33B2 or cheap Chinese crap. I realized that it was more of an exhibit for a garage shelf than reliable welding devices as advertised by the well-known L-letter food chain. All series of this machine, because the manufacturer changed the markings, have a problem with the wire feeder. My first one fell after 10 snots, and the second one withstood about 40 point snags. When looking at the net, the problem often discussed is a damaged rectifier bridge, probably due to poor voltage stabilization during the start of welding, where the system is heavily loaded. The price range in which they were available 240 - 350 PLN does not cover the weight of the scrap of this device, even after selection for non-ferrous metals.


    It is possible that my machine will fail one day, but I think I have found a good one. With it, I insulated the stairs to the terrace with a railing, modernized two entrance gates, a few more crap, and so far it works. In my opinion, he has already earned himself, because I bought it for PLN 200.
  • #22 18638844
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    I bought a Lincoln wire and it really does weld a lot better and it even feels like MAG welding. Unfortunately, the machine's working cycle at MAX current is 1 minute of work and 9 breaks, but when the warranty ends, you can always change and add gas.
  • #23 18644159
    hevet2
    Level 32  
    elektronikq wrote:
    I bought a Lincoln wire and it really does weld a lot better and it even feels like MAG welding. Unfortunately, the machine's working cycle at MAX current is 1 minute of work and 9 breaks, but when the warranty ends, you can always change and add gas.

    And weld a minute then get in ...... rubbish and that's it.
  • #24 18644660
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    hevet2 wrote:
    elektronikq wrote:
    I bought a Lincoln wire and it really does weld a lot better and it even feels like MAG welding. Unfortunately, the machine's working cycle at MAX current is 1 minute of work and 9 breaks, but when the warranty ends, you can always change and add gas.

    And weld a minute then get in ...... rubbish and that's it.

    Well, I will do a transformer for more serious matters and I will spill the general cargo with a parksid :) I am happy for the price.
  • #25 18662311
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    Replacing the wire with another.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting a self-shielding wire for a Lidl welder to minimize spatter and achieve a welding quality similar to CO2 gas welding. Users express mixed experiences with self-shielding wires, noting that while they can be effective for occasional home use, the welds may not appear professional and often result in significant spatter. Recommendations include using Lincoln wire, which is reported to produce more even welds with less spatter compared to other brands. Some users suggest that switching to a MIG welder with gas shielding would yield better results, as self-shielding wires are considered relatively expensive and produce wider, less aesthetically pleasing welds. Overall, satisfaction with the welding results varies, with some users finding success in their projects despite the limitations of the Lidl welder.
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