Hello everyone I own a 2004 Fiat Panda in the poor version. I am missing the cigarette lighter socket, because I do not have a phone charger to connect to. I would like to install the cigarette lighter in the glove box where the passenger airbag deactivation cap. I took some pictures of the...

Buy a USB car socket (there will be no problems with connection and installation). If I'm not mistaken, the factory one was between the seats.

Instead of installing a cigarette lighter socket, wouldn't it be better to use something like this? The cigarette lighter socket must be wired so that nothing starts to burn when someone gets the idea of pulling from it, for example, 180W. Also, the cigarette lighter socket has the property that sometimes it likes to spit out plugs. And what is in the picture can be connected to the power supply of the radio (the ones after the ignition).

Pins next to maxi fuses you have free . A holder with a 10A fuse and you're done. With a tester speawdz

All well and good, but they also need to be connected to the installation which is not .

Thanks for your answers. The radio I have definitely connected by a cube. There are cables to the cube among others red and brown I have to pluck them from the insulation twist a wire to each of them and these 2 newly created connect to this charger what you sent in the picture?

Do not twist ,solder or if it will be usb only use a clip .

Cool way with these clips. Yes there will be only USB there that is my way of thinking with using the cable before the radio cube, red and brown is correct, there will be no sparking etc. The radio at my place I can turn on without the key in the ignition. However, when I have it already turned on and the car is fired up, the radio turns itself off when the car is turned off.

You need to check the cables with a tester. No one at a distance will tell you what colors to hook up to, because in such a car miracles with the installation could happen.

Thank you for your answer. That is, there should be voltage in one of the cables I will check it with a multimeter, and what value should it have and what is indicated by the 2nd cable that will have to be connected to this charger?

It is to be a minus, that is, it is to be shorted to the ground of the vehicle.Minus you can also take from any metal body component.

There are probably two power wires in the radio: one + constant from the battery to maintain the radio settings and as the main power supply, and the other after the ignition to turn on the radio. With a phone charger it will be rather difficult to milk a working battery, unless you leave some device in the USB for a few days.

If it is illuminated then milking will go faster. Also, it is better not to leave cheap electronics (I mean this charger) plugged in the car permanently. I recommend locating the right wire and plugging into it. It should be either yellow or red, depending on the whim of the manufacturers of the radio cube. But it's better to check for yourself before plugging it in.

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#1 17791499 20 Feb 2019 11:56

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Hello everyone

I own a 2004 Fiat Panda in the poor version.

I am missing the cigarette lighter socket, because I do not have a phone charger to connect to.

I would like to install the cigarette lighter in the glove box where the passenger airbag deactivation cap.

I took some pictures of the cubes with cables and I have a question if I can connect to any of them.

If none of them would be suitable for connection then I can use the harness from the radio?

Is it enough if I buy some universal cigarette lighter socket from a popular site for 15 zł and it will fit?

Greetings. .
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Buy a USB car socket (there will be no problems with connection and installation).
If I'm not mistaken, the factory one was between the seats.
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Instead of installing a cigarette lighter socket, wouldn't it be better to use something like this?

The cigarette lighter socket must be wired so that nothing starts to burn when someone gets the idea of pulling from it, for example, 180W.
Also, the cigarette lighter socket has the property that sometimes it likes to "spit out" plugs.
And what is in the picture can be connected to the power supply of the radio (the ones after the ignition).
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All well and good, but they also need to be connected to the installation which is not .
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Pins next to maxi fuses you have free . A holder with a 10A fuse and you're done. With a tester speawdz
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sanfran wrote:
Instead of installing a cigarette lighter socket, isn't it better to use something like this?

The cigarette lighter socket must be wired so that nothing starts to burn when someone gets the idea to pull from it, for example, 180W.
Also, the cigarette lighter socket has the property that sometimes it likes to "spit out" plugs.
And what is in the picture can be connected to the power supply of the radio (the ones after the ignition).

Thanks for your answers.

The radio I have definitely connected by a cube. There are cables to the cube among others red and brown I have to pluck them from the insulation twist a wire to each of them and these 2 newly created connect to this charger what you sent in the picture?
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Do not twist ,solder or if it will be usb only use a clip .
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andrzej20001 wrote:
Don't twist,solder or if there will be only usb use a clip

Cool way with these clips. Yes there will be only USB there that is my way of thinking with using the cable before the radio cube, red and brown is correct, there will be no sparking etc. The radio at my place I can turn on without the key in the ignition. However, when I have it already turned on and the car is fired up, the radio turns itself off when the car is turned off.
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You need to check the cables with a tester. No one at a distance will tell you what colors to hook up to, because in such a car miracles with the installation could happen.
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sanfran wrote:
You need to check the cables with a tester. No one at a distance will tell you what colors to connect to, because in such a car miracles with the installation could happen.

Thank you for your answer.

That is, there should be voltage in one of the cables I will check it with a multimeter, and what value should it have and what is indicated by the 2nd cable that will have to be connected to this charger?
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It is to be a minus, that is, it is to be shorted to the ground of the vehicle.
Minus you can also take from any metal body component.
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DriverMSG wrote:
It is supposed to be a minus, that is, it is supposed to be shorted to the vehicle's mass.
DriverMSG wrote:
Minus can also be taken from any metal body component. However, when I have the radio on and the car is started, the radio turns off by itself after turning off the car, but if I press ON while the car is turned off, it turns on. If I connect a car charger socket like the one in the pictures above to this radio power cable, will it light up all the time even when the car is turned off, because I don't know if this would have a big effect on discharging the battery.
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There are probably two power wires in the radio: one + constant from the battery to maintain the radio settings and as the main power supply, and the other after the ignition to turn on the radio.
With a phone charger it will be rather difficult to "milk" a working battery, unless you leave some device in the USB for a few days.
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If I connect a car charger socket like the one in the pictures above to this radio power cable, will it be illuminated all the time

If it is illuminated then "milking" will go faster.
Also, it is better not to leave cheap electronics (I mean this charger) plugged in the car permanently. I recommend locating the right wire and plugging into it.
It should be either yellow or red, depending on the "whim" of the manufacturers of the radio cube. But it's better to check for yourself before plugging it in.
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Thank you all.
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✨ The discussion revolves around the installation of a cigarette lighter socket in a 2004 Fiat Panda, specifically in the glove box area. The user seeks advice on connecting the socket to the vehicle's electrical system, considering options such as using the radio harness or existing wiring blocks. Responses suggest alternatives like a USB car socket for easier installation and safety. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly identifying power and ground wires, recommending the use of a multimeter for testing. Concerns about battery drainage from constant power supply to the charger are also raised, with advice to connect to the appropriate wires to avoid issues.
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TL;DR: Adding phone charging to a 2004 Fiat Panda? A USB module tied to the radio feed is simplest; a cigarette lighter can see 180W loads and "must be wired so that nothing starts to burn." Connect after ignition for auto on/off. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17791631]

Why it matters: You avoid drain, blown fuses, and unreliable plugs while getting dependable USB power. This FAQ is for Panda 2004 owners asking how to add a 12V/USB outlet safely and cleanly.

Quick Facts

Use spare pins near maxi fuses and add a 10A fuse for a new feed. [Elektroda, andrzej20001, post #17791652]
ISO/radio harness has two feeds: constant +12V and ignition-switched; pick switched for auto-off USB. [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #17793936]
Ground can be taken from any clean metal body point near the install. [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #17793883]
Factory lighter on Panda 169 was located between the seats (if equipped). [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #17791624]
Lighter sockets can eject plugs; USB modules reduce that mechanical issue. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17791631]

What’s the easiest way to add phone charging to a 2004 Fiat Panda?

Install a USB car socket and power it from an existing feed. It simplifies wiring and mounting. The factory lighter, if fitted, was between the seats, which can guide placement. This approach avoids heavier wiring needed for high-power lighter sockets. [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #17791624]

Should I fit a cigarette lighter or a USB-only charger?

Fit a USB-only charger. Lighter sockets can carry high loads, even up to 180W. They also tend to eject plugs. A USB module gives stable charging and fewer mechanical issues. It also limits accidental high-current use on thin add-on wiring. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17791631]

How do I power a new socket from the fuse box?

Use the free pins near the maxi fuses and add a 10A fuse. Verify with a tester before finalizing. How-To: 1. Identify free pins near maxi fuses. 2. Install a fuse holder with a 10A fuse. 3. Run positive to the socket, ground to chassis, and test. [Elektroda, andrzej20001, post #17791652]

Can I tap the radio wiring instead of the fuse box?

Yes. The radio harness has both constant and ignition-switched power. Use the ignition-switched feed for auto on/off. "There are probably two power wires in the radio." Keep grounds short and solid. Confirm with a meter before tapping. [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #17793936]

Which wire colors are +12V and ACC on my Panda/ISO plug?

Do not trust colors alone. Some harnesses use yellow or red for power, but this varies. Confirm with a tester before connecting. The safest approach is to identify constant +12V and ignition-switched +12V by measurement. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17794138]

How do I identify constant versus ignition power with a multimeter?

Measure voltage to ground with the ignition off and on. Constant +12V stays at 12V in both states. Ignition +12V reads 0V with key off and 12V with key on. "You need to check the cables with a tester." Label wires once confirmed. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17791884]

Where should I connect the ground for the USB or lighter socket?

Use any clean, bare metal point on the vehicle body near the install. Scrape paint for solid contact. Use a ring terminal and a self-tapping screw if needed. Keep the ground wire short to reduce voltage drop. [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #17793883]

Will a USB charger drain my battery if wired to constant +12V?

A small phone charger will not drain a healthy battery quickly. It becomes a concern if a device stays plugged for days. To be safe, use the ignition-switched feed so the charger powers off with the key. [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #17793936]

What fuse rating should I use when adding a 12V or USB socket?

Use a 10A fuse on your new feed. Place it close to the power source. This protects the added wiring and the accessory. Always verify the circuit with a tester after installation. [Elektroda, andrzej20001, post #17791652]

My lighter plug keeps popping out. How can I prevent that?

This happens with some sockets and plugs. Replace the lighter socket with a panel USB charger. It removes the spring-loaded plug issue entirely. Secure the module firmly to avoid vibration problems. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17791631]

Is it okay to twist wires together, or what’s the right joining method?

Do not twist wires together. Solder and insulate, or use a proper clip/T-tap for a clean tee connection. Avoid loose joints that heat up or fail. Secure and strain-relieve any added wiring. [Elektroda, andrzej20001, post #17791697]

Is it safe to leave a cheap USB charger plugged in all the time?

Avoid leaving low-cost chargers permanently connected, especially if they have indicator lights. They can speed up battery drain and may be unreliable. Use an ignition-switched feed so the charger turns off with the key. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17794138]

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