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E116921 Power Supply - Does not work even after parts replaced

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  • #1 17995961
    LucasBS
    Level 2  
    I only speak english
    But I saw this topic in PL language that is very similar to mine:

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3441616.html

    I'd like the same participants to help me on my case. For this reason, I post on the PL forum.

    I replaced the ZD101 with a 12V zener (1N4742A). But before that, I tested many values only touching, without soldering. None worked.
    The color was clear: Green, Yellow and Purple

    ZD 101 was damaged, TOP244YN was damaged (replaced with a new one), and TLP781F optocoupler was damaged
    Replaced the TLP781F with a SFH617A-4. Are they compatible ?

    I even draw a COMPLETE schematic. Attached to this post and also available on the link below:
    ALL the datasheet and schematics are here: tweetl.tk/9Zffx
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    #2 17996688
    Darek.S
    Level 34  
    Hope I quite accurate describe the problem and solution. I submit aplication of Top . U do bit more cause submit completely diagram of this power supply and i see slight differences. Exactly pins C and F which are connected on diagram and on aplication not.
    Try to measure tension of pin C! In my cause I made a mistake and solder zener with wrong value. When I displaced it the tension was 5,6V and power supply went. So I solder 8,2V. There are ISO 101 and ZD102 connected to point C. Check it for shortcut...
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  • #3 18008529
    LucasBS
    Level 2  
    Hello.
    Sorry for the delayed answer. My job allows me to work with this problem only once or twice in a month.

    I double checked the supply and the schematics. The C and F are connected.

    There is 5.3V on the C pin.
    No short circuit was detected on any of the adjacent components.

    I will replace the ISO101, since I put a part that I had on my stock that is different than the original.

    Meanwhile, what else do you suggest to check ?
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    #4 18016217
    Darek.S
    Level 34  
    Darek.S wrote:
    and ZD102 connected to point C. Check it for shortcut...

    You already got a proposition. 5,2V on point C is i think too small. I have similar problem but in my case i put the wrong diode with too small Zener voltage.
    What about ZD102? It could be wrong even without shortcut.
    I've just ordered a tester wchich can measure Zener Voltage. Earlier a did that with multimetr, resistor and laboratory power supply. Now it should be much easier.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmE2hxT4u2o
    Yesterday I bought similar tester https://www.ebay.ie/itm/LCR-PCB-Transistor-Te...092289?hash=item3d8cf85e01:g:NUAAAOSws59c~59G
    But this above is better.
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  • #5 18021044
    LucasBS
    Level 2  
    Would you remember the voltage at ZD102 (the voltage when the zener was soldered, and the supply turned on) ?

    Perhaps you wrote down other voltages, like those on the pins of TOP244 ?
    If your projector was not yet assembled, could you measure these voltages ?

    Another noob question:
    Could it be a capacitor ? If so, is there a way to measure ?

    I replaced ZD101 with a 6.2V zener: 1N4735A. That is the zener that will stay there.
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  • #6 18021060
    Darek.S
    Level 34  
    Sorry no. My problem was ZD101 and I don't touch ZD102. But what problem to desolder it and measure. There might be some mark on it so You can know what is the value. As I remember on my ZD101 was colour Bar Code...

    Dodano po 4 [godziny]:

    LucasBS wrote:


    If your projector was not yet assembled, could you measure these voltages ?

    sorry I gave the device back this time and don't have it tlil this time...
  • #7 18102895
    LucasBS
    Level 2  
    Bought a new supply.
    Measured all that I could before sticking it on the projector.
    Attached


    I'll stay tuned in case someone has a similar problem. I still have the old board.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a non-functional E116921 power supply after replacing several components, including ZD101, TOP244YN, and TLP781F. The user replaced ZD101 with a 12V zener diode (1N4742A) and TLP781F with an SFH617A-4, questioning their compatibility. Participants suggest checking the voltage at pin C of the TOP244YN, which was measured at 5.3V, and recommend verifying the ZD102 zener diode. The importance of correct zener voltage values is emphasized, with suggestions to measure voltages across various components and consider the possibility of capacitor issues. The user ultimately purchased a new power supply while retaining the old board for further analysis.
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