Honda Civic VIII 1.8 (2009) LPG Installation: Stag Qbox Plus, ACR01, ACW02 & VTEC Usage

Hello,

I am going to install an LPG system for Honda Civic VIII 1.8 2009. I was offered the following set:
Stag Qbox Plus
ACR01
ACW02

1. Does the Civic VIII 1.8 handle LPG well?
2. Is it worth using extra petrol injection to protect the valve seats?
3. Does this car have a standard broadband probe?
4. Can I use VTEC frequently for LPG staples?
5. Is it possible to record the injection times-multiplier graph on the pen drive?

1. Honda gas is a higher driving school, and taking into account what is happening on the market, the lack of gas specialists is a bad idea.

Panicz_ wrote:

1. Does the Civic VIII 1.8 handle LPG well?

most engines tolerate LPG well when done wisely

Panicz_ wrote:

2. Is it worth using extra petrol injection to protect the valve seats?

it's worth it, it certainly won't hurt, it just can help

Panicz_ wrote:

3. Does this car have a standard broadband probe?

it seems to me that this model still has 4 wires

Panicz_ wrote:

4. Can I use VTEC frequently for LPG staples?

you just have to remember that LPG fuel is an alternative to savings, so in this case it is worth adding PB at high revolutions

Panicz_ wrote:

5. Is it possible to record the injection times-multiplier graph on the pen drive?

the entire driver settings can be saved to disk and later downloaded to a USB flash drive

As for the set itself, the reducer is at least average, I would also exchange the injectors for Hercules for this appropriate assembly and tuning.

Me on barracude or ac w03 / 031. KME tur reducer. If there is no fuel, you can add it, and I consider it unnecessary because if the valves are to fly, a few% of gasoline will not help too much - it is too small.
I wouldn't count on someone dressing it up well.

psooya wrote:

I wouldn't count on someone dressing it up well.

with this approach in life, we should not do anything, buy or use, because maybe a new car from the factory was assembled by some "Janusz" who had a weaker day, I clearly have the impression that only the PAN

psooya wrote:

psooya

he is infallible and all-knowing

maiami wrote:

psooya wrote:

I wouldn't count on someone dressing it up well.

with this approach in life, we should not do anything, buy or use, because maybe a new car from the factory was assembled by some "Janusz" who had a weaker day, I clearly have the impression that only the PAN

psooya wrote:

psooya

he is infallible and all-knowing

This is just realism, not defectism. You probably haven't been to LPG services or assembly plants recently. I see fresh installations every day in golf 5 or octavia 2 with a simple 1.6 8v under the hood which forgives a lot and so can lame walking on LPG Honda does not forgive anything and immediately beats the engine light in the eyes. Too long injection pipes, gas nozzles too far from gasoline injections, wrong nozzles selected, poor pressure reducer, or slow injections and LPG installation instead of enjoying low driving costs, it is because something is lit, the engine jerks.

Bravo bravo. And what corrections has such a refined 1.6 vw and such a refined Honda - the abyss probably
As for me, I don't go to the workshops to see gas producers, but my workshop looked at their work and after many of them "not so gassed" and in places not like that, I put the car on the wheels using methods not available from gas manuals.
End of side topic is suitable. There is PW.

Yes and then cry because the gas engine broke my engine. I am not saying that it is not possible, but at the moment I do not know a plant that in my opinion would do it 100% well and there would be no problems with it.

sigwa18 wrote:

Yes and then cry because the gas engine broke my engine. I am not saying that it is not possible, but at the moment I do not know a plant that in my opinion would do it 100% well and there would be no problems with it.

I agree in 50%, but I think that there are good workshops dealing with installations, if they were not there, the cars would not run and LPG fuel would not be so popular in our country. In addition, mistakes are not made by those who do nothing, the only question is whether he can find and fix them in time.

Except that LPG is currently in retreat, unfortunately, new cars with direct injection are difficult to set up gas and regulate, and most importantly, they do not run 100% on gas. There are liquid phase injection installations through original injectors and a high pressure pump, but the price is prohibitive.

See on the lpg forum how rusek solved it for PLN 100. In the next car, I will think about liquid LPG for indirect injection, but I have concerns about gasification in the injection rail from which there is no overflow. Of course, you also need to change the injectors because the pressure must be higher.

Give me a line, but it smells like wire to me. Because normally it changes to the sealing on the pump and the overflow is only returned not to the tank but to the high pressure pump.

I can't find it, but I'll try.
The gas went through the 6bar pump to the hp pump. The overflow went to the wz. Via a tee with an infusion. Switching to pb consisted of opening one ez and releasing lpg from the bar into the atmosphere. Control probably 3 or 4 ez was from the switch to the gas stove.
The system had no problem with the fuel apartment.

A colleague fed his lpg with liquid bmw in the pb strip and went. Test for a while. I know you guppy. The multivalve also changed without draining the gas from the cylinder. You can, but what for?

When he drove it around his field, it was okay, but it was terrible anyway.

The test is it possible. A colleague from the elpidzie industry

These installations are the best. The dose is controlled by a comp pb which has knowledge about the current factorial cycle and the lpg driver will not divine any treasures in the world.

You have the same thing with the LPG controller with OBD communication. He will measure the injection time with gasoline and the deviation from the norm is in the short and long correction.

Of course not, but the point is for it to sell and the gas engine to get rid of the car quickly. I always throw out all the adaptations and the cars run without any problems.

sigwa18 wrote:

Yeah and then cry because the gas engine broke my engine. I am not saying that it is not possible, but at the moment I do not know a plant that in my opinion would do it 100% well and there would be no problems with it.

A lot of establishments will do it well if you pay the real actual price for the assembly. That is PLN 4,000-5,000.

So much for the topic. If someone expects that for PLN 2200-2500 or even PLN 2800 he will have professional assembly on good elements, it is extremely naive.

Finally, a meaningful task. 1k from 1 cyl. Not applicable for 3 cyl.

A lot of establishments will do it well if you pay the real actual price for the assembly. That is PLN 4,000-5,000.

So much for the topic. If someone counts that for PLN 2200-2500 or even PLN 2800 he will have professional assembly on good elements, it is extremely naive. "
This is a drama .... the value of the installation will exceed the value of the car in a moment. I assure my friend that I know at least a few people who have such a car with installations from 2200 PLN to 2800 these cars drive without any problem. maybe a friend will find out. I personally paid 2500 for over a year I have traveled over 17000 km on the very "flimsy" installation and somehow nothing is happening.

Year Make, model of the car plus engine type. As I wrote earlier, one engine can use 11 kg cylinders plus whatever reducer is put on the manifold and it will last for a year. Honda, unfortunately, requires a slightly different approach.

encore wrote:

If someone counts that for PLN 2200-2500 or even PLN 2800 he will have professional assembly on good elements, it is extremely naive.

I can assure you that for 2800 you can professionally install an LPG system with KME Tur, Barracuda and Parker hoses. I know such a gas generator and it is not a tinker, colleague @psooya should associate him, he has a workshop recommended by Stag.

2008 Civic, 1.8 cm, mileage 165,000, 140 km. You can ... You can ... You just have to want ... Not to invent miracles on a stick .... Sure, you can insert an installation for 10,000,000 euro ... You can ...
Ps.I do not remember the forks inserted ... I think I should stand 200, unless I'm mistaken ... Important that he goes and does not do Christmas trees ... And I hope he will ride for a long time ..

sebap wrote:

encore wrote:

If someone counts that for PLN 2200-2500 or even PLN 2800 he will have professional assembly on good elements, it is extremely naive.

I can assure you that for 2800 you can professionally install an LPG system with KME Tur, Barracuda and Parker hoses. I know such a gas generator and it is not a tinker, colleague @psooya should associate him, he has a workshop recommended by Stag.

I know two. One does a lot of DPI and I haven't improved them yet, but I don't know what they are doing at such a price and the other one is not fully honest and I had to improve a dozen or so cars because the collaboration did not help as well.

Once I wrote to you on pw his nickname from the lpg-forum and the address of his website.

Maybe, I don't remember, I have my garage, my cars, and hundreds of fixes.

It didn't matter, it was about the fact that you can do it cheaper, without any trouble, on good lumber.

It is only worth asking yourself one question. What for? I prefer to take more and not spoil the market. 1000 PLN gross for a really large interference in the vehicle is this such income? This is when you do 1 car a day. I made a lot of cars after workshops that were not so gassed. I have always had some comments, such as the frequent installation of the reducer on the left longitudinal together with the valve. Replacing the filter without lifting and / or removing the plate is a real pain and the reducer itself is not on an armored bracket, so everything moves. Yes, I know it was good and cheap because you can assemble it in 10 minutes, less faro and tips and no thoughtful assembly because there was no time for it. I like to have a car that I am happy to service by lifting the bonnet, and the inspection lasts from 1.5 to 2 hours. So, since the inspection with food and cleaning the filters, it takes how long to install?
Everyone should do as they prefer. The market price of 3300 as a standard will not kill anyone and it will spoil the market much less.