Repairing Cracked Upper Hinge on Balcony Door: Steps for Successful Replacement

Good morning,

I did not find a similar topic, I will describe my situation, and after fixing it, I will add a step-by-step solution for others.
Situation:
My parents were diagnosed with a problem related to closing the balcony door - it turned out that it was the top hinge has a crack at the top the pin almost falls out and the door is slightly lowered. Due to the risk that the door may come off completely at any time, I would like to replace the hinge quickly. I won't be there until Wednesday, but I'd like to get an idea of the topic.


I have already found a potential way to disassemble the door ( YouTube video window dismantling ) seems simple enough. Although in this case, the hinge is tiltable.


If someone has experience in the subject, I wonder:
1) Will I be able to handle it without any problems (I assume that it is enough to pull the pin, remove the door, unscrew the bolts securing the hinge to the "frame", screw the new hinge with the same spacing of bolts, insert the door, insert the pin),
2) Is the tilting mechanism independent of the hinge (somehow it goes under the bolts), or is it necessary to replace the whole due to a broken hinge (or you can opt out of the tilt),
3) Are such hinges standard and am I able to order one online now, or is it better to disassemble and take them to the store,
4) Is there any recommended company that produces stronger hinges, and possibly there is a difference between the hinge for doors and windows.

I haven't disassembled the hinge yet, because I didn't make it on my last visit. So I don't know how many bolts there are or what the distance is between them. I know that it is about 10cm with the cap.

Thank you in advance for constructive comments, the problem is probably quite trivial, but it will be good to have such a case described on the web.
Regards

kopczyt wrote:

1) Will I be able to handle it without any problems (I assume that it is enough to pull the pin, remove the door, unscrew the bolts securing the hinge to the "frame", screw the new hinge with the same spacing of bolts, insert the door, insert the pin),

This is exactly how it is done. If you know, why are you asking .

kopczyt wrote:

2) Whether the swing mechanism is independent of the hinge

He is independent. You only replace the hinge, the rest stays.

kopczyt wrote:

3) Are such hinges standard and am I able to order one online now, or is it better to disassemble and take them to the store,

You can do both, but mine will be faster than waiting for the delivery.

kopczyt wrote:

4) Is there any recommended company that produces stronger hinges, and possibly there is a difference between the hinge for doors and windows.

There is no such company. The crack could be caused by a material defect or the one who opened the door did it very ineptly and it broke. As for the differences in the hinges, there are many possibilities: Large / small windows / doors, the window manufacturer does not replace the hinges, but buys from other manufacturers (Chinese, or ours), because it is cheaper. These types of hinges are often cast shit, hard steel. In general, the picture looks like this: you close the door, knock out the upper pin, if you have supports on the frame between the lower and the upper hinge, you open the door to about 15 cm from the frame and fold it to the side so that it comes out and lift it from the lower pin. After putting on the new hinge, do not forget to adjust the door. There is a screw in the lower hinge (basically on the door) (it should be an Allen screw, I don't remember the size) and you screw it in and out by lifting and lowering the door. You adjust the sideways deviation with the top screw, as the arrow shows. Also allen.



Everything on the subject.

kopczyt wrote:

3) Are such hinges standard and I am able to order one online now

How can you order anything - if you don't know what to order
There are many companies supplying window fittings on our market - so you must first determine the manufacturer of these fittings and, if necessary, their design version.
Most manufacturers clearly label (stamped on moldings and other items) so you'll need to look for them. Then it's just "down the hill": or they are still available in professional hardware wholesalers of this manufacturer, or they are no longer commercially available and the search for similar and modification remains :cry:

In your first photo you can see something suspicious - it looks as if the locking pin was not pushed in properly during assembly and it popped out of the upper slot

Tumiwisizm wrote:

This is exactly how it is done. If you know, why are you asking.
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I wanted to make sure I never did that and that was my intuitive guess that I wanted to confirm.

Tumiwisizm wrote:

He is independent. You only replace the hinge, the rest stays.

That's great news, at least one less problem.

Prot wrote:

How can you order anything - if you don't know what to order

Tumiwisizm wrote:

You can do both, but mine will be faster than waiting for the delivery.

It was quite a naive question, but if the window market was standardized, it would be more certain to order than to search in a store, I don't know how with availability (windows were set up by "LINDA", which is no longer available). But I will definitely dismantle the hinge first and go look for it in shops, I probably won't find in Castorama, but I've already seen some shops in Łódź.

Prot wrote:

In your first photo you can see something suspicious - it looks as if the locking pin was not pushed in properly during assembly and it popped out of the upper slot

That's interesting, there is no way to determine it. Perhaps the fault of the assembly, but the windows are already old and perhaps the tilt mechanism also contributed to it, I don't know.

Tumiwisizm wrote:

In general, the picture looks like this: you close the door, knock out the upper pin, if you have supports on the frame between the lower and the upper hinge, you open the door to about 15 cm from the frame and fold it to the side so that it comes out and lift it from the lower pin. After putting on the new hinge, do not forget to adjust the door. There is a screw in the lower hinge (basically on the door) (it should be an Allen screw, I don't remember the size) and you screw it in and out by lifting and lowering the door. You adjust the lateral deviation with the top screw, as the arrow shows. Also allen.

Meeeega, thank you, this is very practical information. On Wednesday / Thursday I will be fighting, so I will describe how I coped.

Regards

kopczyt wrote:

I will definitely disassemble the hinge first and go look for it in stores

Prot wrote:

First, determine the manufacturer of these fittings and their design version, if applicable

Also in Łódź , I had a broken corner of the linkage of the tilting balcony door A mobile service for such old windows immediately offered to replace the entire door fittings for a few hundred zlotys
I checked that these were Winkhaus fittings, and then in a warehouse somewhere in Pomerania I found (based on the dimensioned drawings presented on their website) the appropriate type of fittings and the catalog symbol of the damaged part
For PLN 45, they sent me a part and after half an hour the fault was removed :please:

Practical advice for removing the balcony door is best to involve some assistant - they are quite heavy and they are full of glass

Gentlemen. There are no clamps (no steady rests) in these doors, because they are tilt and turn. The hardware is not made in China. He will not buy them in a store or wholesaler. The name is stamped on the fitting and you have to look for the same. I am stocking up on okucia24.pl. Virtually everything is there, although some elements are absurdly expensive. And he can easily remove the door himself. When the pin comes out hard, you have to open it slightly and lift the sash. If the door was properly adjusted before the failure, do not move anything after replacing the hinge.

In my opinion, these are Winkhaus fittings, but it's better to read it from nature.

balonika3 wrote:

And he can easily remove the door himself.

Well, if the "service technician" is as muscular as on the friend's thumbnail balloon 3 he can take it off by himself - otherwise, I stand by my advice

Unfortunately, I couldn't pull the pin out of the hinge He's holding on like hell, I think I need to buy that service handle to pry. Do you have anything to recommend?

In the castorama, next to me, they have neither a handle nor a hinge. I think I'll order everything online. The hinge is 8.9 - 9 cm, I suspect it's a winkhaus.

I have similar in the windows and they are winkhaus.
You cannot pull the pin out because it is probably bent or knotted and hooked.
https://okucia24.com/activpilot-zawias-rozwierny-dl-k-et-20-9,id4081.html

You knock the pin down as if something. If necessary - as it would be bent, buy a new one if possible. The pin is (should be) flat on one side. In order to insert it into the new hinge, you will have to turn it properly. Anyway, you will take a look at what it looks like before putting the door in place, so as not to mess up the job.

Did you fix this hinge yourself?
I have a similar problem. The pin came up. He broke the cover.
How do I "hide" it back down? If everyone says that the pin goes down, not up.
Do you have to turn it somehow to put it back in the hinge ??

I had a similar problem, I replaced the hinge, but it turned out that the screw hole in the frame was made and now everything flies out. Is there any patent for a special wheels or something to mount it?

Sorry for the late reply.

I tried to knock out the pin, but it wouldn't budge over the curve. I was about to buy such a "handle" assembler, which would probably help. But somehow I stopped dealing with it because the door was sticking.

After some time, a crack appeared in this hinge, which forced me to act. On the closed door, I managed to pull the pin somehow. It was enough to unscrew a few screws and screw in a new hinge with a new pin. Except I had a problem finding the right one.

I figured it was a winhaus. But there were two possible types. One newer for PLN 15 on the allegro, another hard to get with a different shape of the convex, which enters the frame, for which they asked PLN 47 the more expensive one came earlier, it fit, so I canceled the cheaper one, so as not to waste time.


To sum up, in such a situation it is enough to close the door, knock out the pin, unscrew the hinge, insert and screw in a new one, drive in the pin. Most of the problem could be with the pin if it is crooked. And most importantly, measure the dimensions of the hinge to find out which one to buy.

Regards