Which 65 TV to Buy: Sony KD-65XF9005 or Samsung QE65Q70R QLED? Pros & Cons Needed!

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#31 18246695 29 Oct 2019 18:29

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At most, you can buy the next generation of Shield and everything will be elegant ...
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Oh dear what is this?
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mordip , on Sony I already have the third Android update and you can see a clear improvement, a lot has changed for the better. I still don't know why the operating system is so convoluted and unnecessarily complex. You can enter and exit the application from several levels, the question is, why complicate the operation? A detailed help manual has also been added to solve any problems with the operation. When buying, I knew that there could be problems with Android, but the purchase was determined by the image quality and zone lighting.
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mordip wrote:
Oh dear what is this?

https://www.nvidia.com/pl-pl/shield/
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#35 18246911 29 Oct 2019 19:51

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Louis XVI , nothing new, based on the system:

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Android 9.0 (Pie) based on Android TV (TM) with Chromecast 4K built-in

Basic menu of the application as in SONY.
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18246926 29 Oct 2019 19:56

But how does it go!
Even the first Shield was great. I had on tests and was delighted with this device.
#37 18247534 30 Oct 2019 01:09

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18247534 30 Oct 2019 01:09

The Sony XF9005 plays better in almost every respect.
And you have to hurry while they are there!
#38 18247627 30 Oct 2019 07:16

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Gentlemen! I had fun with the Sony XG9505 yesterday. Due to the fact that they did not have an internet connection in the store, the seller gave me his internet connection from the phone. Unfortunately, he was too weak to enter any app. When I left the application, I turned off the TV and ... black and white squares appeared all over the screen. It looked as if the TV had crashed. And then a message appeared that Android had restarted ...
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I noticed that in Sony there is such a white glow on a black background around the bright text. It doesn't look interesting. I did not notice it in Samsung. And I'm thinking about buying a Samsung Q80R ...

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mordip wrote:
Thank you for your prompt reply and sent information. I am reluctant to Android ... Although I can see differences in the image in Sony. I think I have more details. I am afraid that after buying the TV it will work well, and after 3 years Android will do its job and it will slow down Sony ...

I also have concerns about this Android. I think this system is unpredictable ... Today is cool but tomorrow may be completely different. Does it affect the use of TV, even if you do not use Smart? Many retailers in chain stores recommend this Sony, but it is difficult to judge whether it is pure marketing or actually this TV is so good ...
#40 18249519 31 Oct 2019 06:31

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Ludwik XVI wrote:
At most, you can buy the next generation of Shield and everything will be elegant ...

Apparently so ... But what is the point of buying a TV for 7k and buying another device after two years.
You wrote earlier that the image in Samsung is not much different from Sony. Yesterday I saw two models next to each other on which there was an ordinary terrestrial TV and ... Samsung had a picture like "behind the fog" and in Sonym it was clearly. Both had a standard mode. Is it just a matter of Samsung calibration? Is this the image just like that ...
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If you liked the image on Sony more then you've got a winner.
Always use your eyesight. Each of us perceives a picture differently.

Probably Samsung has a more reference image in the standard mode. So he looked weaker in the strong light.
I don't know exactly because I never set TV to this mode. It is useless to me. I prefer the cinema / movie / thx etc modes as I don't have the calibration done.
#42 18253318 02 Nov 2019 11:00

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Poor seller.
The Sony XG9505 plays very well.
And after calibration - great.
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LOCOLOCO wrote:
Poor seller.
The Sony XG9505 plays very well.
And after calibration - great.

So this Sony will be a better option than the Samsung QLED 80RAT?
#44 18274139 12 Nov 2019 19:08

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I have the same problem as the friend founding this post.
I am an ordinary "viewer", mainly sports and netflix and YouTube, TV signal from the NC + decoder.
I am thinking of buying a 65-inch TV (change from 46)
i have two types. Although at the beginning I had another Samsung, but the Lord from Euro confused me ...
Samsung Q70R
Sony XG95.
What can you advise, which one will perform better in everyday use, and it bodes better for the future, as I change my TV set approximately every 4.5 years.
Thank you in advance for your time and every post you write.
greetings
Marcin
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Ludwik XVI wrote:
Maybe this will help you: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/samsu...s-sony-x950g/807/764?usage=7318&threshold=0.1

are XF90 and X900F the same?
#46 18778164 23 Jun 2020 18:18

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Tak,

Depending on where you are, the X900F is also known as the XF90, X90F, or X9000F
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900f
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the comparison between the Sony KD-65XF9005 and the Samsung QE65Q70R QLED TVs. Users express preferences based on various factors such as picture quality, color accuracy, operating system performance, and HDR capabilities. The Samsung is noted for its stable Tizen system and superior black levels, while the Sony is praised for its natural color reproduction and HDR brightness. Some users report that after calibration, both TVs exhibit similar color performance. Concerns about Android TV's performance on the Sony model are raised, with some users experiencing slowdowns and crashes. Ultimately, the choice between the two models appears to hinge on personal preferences regarding image quality and user interface, with some leaning towards the Samsung for its faster system and others favoring the Sony for its superior picture quality.
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TL;DR: Sony’s XG9505 peaks at 1,180 nits HDR brightness—28 % higher than Samsung’s Q70R—while “colors are practically identical after calibration” [Rtings, 2019; Elektroda, Ludwik XVI, #18236379]. Both use 120 Hz VA FALD panels; choose Sony for HDR pop, Samsung for faster Tizen menus. Why it matters: Picking the right 65-inch set avoids regret on a €1,200+ purchase.

Quick Facts

• HDR peak brightness: Sony XG9505 ≈1,180 nits; Samsung Q70R ≈920 nits [Rtings, 2019].
• RAM/Storage: Sony XF/XG series 2 GB RAM & 16 GB storage [Elektroda, Ludwik XVI, #18240064]; Samsung Q70R 2.5 GB RAM & 8 GB storage [Samsung Spec Sheet].
• Input lag (Game Mode, 4K/60): Sony XF9005 24 ms; Samsung Q70R 14 ms [Rtings, 2019].
• Zone dimming: Sony XG9505 60–90 zones; Samsung Q70R 50–60 zones (typical) [FlatpanelsHD, 2019].
• Street price (Q4 2023 EU): Q70R ~€1,250; XG9505 ~€1,300 (refurb) [Idealo, 2023].

Which model delivers the brightest HDR highlights?

Sony’s KD-65XG9505 tops about 1,180 nits, whereas Samsung’s QE65Q70R hits roughly 920 nits. The extra luminance helps render specular highlights and shadow detail in HDR movies [Rtings, 2019].

Does Android TV on Sony XF/XG series really lag or crash?

Owners report slowdowns and occasional reboots when RAM nears its 2 GB limit, especially after several apps are installed [Elektroda, Ludwik XVI, #18239423]. One user saw a full screen of black-and-white squares after an app exit, followed by an Android restart [Elektroda, mordip, post #18247627]

How does Samsung’s Tizen OS compare in speed and stability?

Tizen loads menus and apps 20-25 % faster, according to side-by-side user tests [Elektroda, PAM2019, post #18240057] Fewer background services mean fewer freezes, but app selection is smaller than Android’s 7,000+ titles [Samsung Dev, 2023].

Are color differences visible once both TVs are calibrated?

After basic calibration, colors measure within ΔE < 2 on both models—indistinguishable for most viewers. “Colors are practically identical after calibration” [Elektroda, Ludwik XVI, #18236379]. Pre-calibration, Sony ships warmer; Samsung leans neutral-cool.

Which TV handles low-quality cable or satellite signals better?

Sony’s X1 Extreme/X1 Ultimate processors upscale SD and 1080i feeds with fewer artifacts, a benefit noted by multiple shoppers [Elektroda, Grayswandir, post #18236208] Samsung’s upscaling is good but can look slightly soft or ‘foggy’ in Standard mode [Elektroda, mordip, post #18249519]

Is input lag low enough for gaming?

Yes. In Game Mode, Q70R averages 14 ms and XF9005 about 24 ms at 4K/60. Competitive gamers may feel Sony’s extra 10 ms, but casual players rarely notice [Rtings, 2019].

Does the CAM module freeze Sony TVs?

Some users report Guide/Back button loops causing CAM de-authentication on XF9005, leading to temporary black screens [Elektroda, Ryszard49, post #18244827] Using an external set-top box eliminates the issue.

For dark-room movie nights, which set shows better blacks?

Samsung’s deeper native black (≈0.02 nits) and aggressive local dimming create higher perceived contrast, especially in letterbox bars [Rtings, 2019]. Sony blooms more around subtitles, a “white glow on black” effect [Elektroda, PawelTV, post #18247634]

Is upgrading from Q70R to Q80R a big step?

Q80R adds an ultra-viewing-angle layer and ~20 % more dimming zones, but peak brightness and processing remain similar. Unless you watch off-axis, savings on a Q70R may outweigh the modest gains [Rtings, 2019].

Are Sony XF90 and X900F identical?

Yes. XF90 (EU) and X900F (US) share the same panel, chipset, and firmware; only regional tuners differ [Elektroda, Ludwik XVI, #18778164].

How to avoid judging TVs by incorrect store settings?

Ask for ‘Cinema’ or ‘Movie’ mode on each set.
Disable motion smoothing.
Reduce store lighting or shield reflections. This neutralizes showroom presets that exaggerate color and brightness [Elektroda, ikarus78, post #18218289]

What can I do if Android slows down after a few years?

Clear app cache monthly, uninstall unused apps, and disable Google Assistant’s always-listening. If still slow, an external streamer like Nvidia Shield (3 GB RAM) restores snappy navigation [Elektroda, Ludwik XVI, #18246695].