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[Solved] 1.5 TSI or 1.4 T GDI - Engine choice. The pros and cons of each...

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  • #1 18276968
    Rybus85
    Level 23  
    What pros and cons do you see for the above engines?
    It's all about the choice of car. On tap at the moment is the Skoda Kamiq or Scala or the Kia Ceed Kombi. Unfortunately the choice is tragic. They are putting more and more 3-cylinder crap into cars. For me, unfortunately, these engines are an embarrassment and lawnmowers. The 1.4-1.5 is almost so min. I am more inclined to the 1.4 T GDI.
    A purchase not for the present. For the time being I'm doing a reconnaissance :) .
    Mainly routes,I would say 70%,20% local roads and 10% city. Yearly +/- 30-33 thousand km.
    Diesel is out. I like driving them very much, but I prefer PB (currently I have LPG and who knows if I won't put it on after the car warranty is over).
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  • #2 18277021
    DriverMSG
    Admin of Computers group
    Rybus85 wrote:
    I am, however, leaning more towards the 1.4 T GDI.
    That is, a direct-injection engine and therefore rather out of the question for an LPG system. Admittedly, it is possible to fit, but it costs a lot.
  • #3 18277023
    Rybus85
    Level 23  
    I know, and not that much money. 6-8 thousand is not a fortune. Besides, it will pay off,especially as the car is expected to last about 7-10 years.
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  • #4 18277036
    DriverMSG
    Admin of Computers group
    Rybus85 wrote:
    Car is expected to last approximately 7-10 years
    Rybus85 wrote:
    Annually +/- 30-33,000km.
    .
    I wouldn't think so optimistically with these modern engines. :D .
    If you're planning a new car, it's better for a few years, then swap it out, for another new one.
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  • #5 18277043
    Rybus85
    Level 23  
    The problem is that there are hardly any second-hand cars to buy. Most of them are so bad that your head hurts, or have astronomical mileage. But people still don't understand that even 2-3 year old cars can have 100-150k mileage (and there are quite a few of them, as I was browsing through offers in car dealerships). A litre 3 cylinder paddock will certainly not do 300k km. But the bigger ones have a chance to do it ;) .
  • #6 18277057
    viayner
    Level 43  
    Hello,
    personally I do not like the modern inventions called turbo engines, I have had the relative pleasure of using several and ... my private cars have normal engines breathing at full throttle.
    I have not trusted the "schmelzwagen" group for a long time so I will not recommend anything, of these two the kia works not bad but I agree with the previous speaker modern inventions are not for such mileage and many years of use. I would rather look for the least powerful engines.
    Regards
  • #7 18277072
    Rybus85
    Level 23  
    And as I wrote this is where the problem lies. I currently have a naturally aspirated two-litre. At the moment more than 340k flown of which 220k on LPG. And nothing is happening to the engine. But the body is already affected by the sign of the times and the years are flying by. Looking for used ones is a drama. Sometimes in the pictures you can already see the improvement, the equipment by Vin does not match, etc. I decided that I would rather put some money down and buy a new one. Anyway, this would be the first ever :) .
    But looking through the listings to find a 'normal' engine is like winning the lotto. When there is something it's with an embarrassing capacity like a litre or 1.2 and power that doesn't allow any movement. I don't take that into account. For me these engines are suitable for a scooter at most. Maybe even in a typical city car that does a few thousand kilometres a year.
    And I wouldn't want to spend a fortune on a car either. Roughly speaking, the price is +/-80 thousand.
  • #8 18277082
    viayner
    Level 43  
    Hello,
    As an example, my wife has a 3-4 year old kia sportage with full gdji not turbo (i was never interested in gas), as far as i can see the prices are in your range (at my place from about 16000euro) similarly the previous generations of Ceed etc. You still have the warranty - probably not bad.
    Regards
  • #9 18277091
    Rybus85
    Level 23  
    On loozie :) LPG is not a necessity just an option :) If PB consumption is reasonable then I won't be packing gas. But habit and station charges do their job. Mine burns from 9(every day)-11,5(baaavery fast route and testing car performance on gas) litre of LPG. So about 20zl without frugal driving is a ridiculous figure for a two-litre motor ;p
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  • #10 18277777
    Kantylena
    Level 24  
    You mean the 1.5 TSI ACT 150?
    Besides, how much will such a TSI smoke on the road? 7/100 is not like the old 1.8 turbo which goes down to 8 at 80 km/h.
    The TSI, like the ecoboosts, is a different technology and the fuel consumption can really be low, and the characteristics of the TSI are a massacre...as the diesel pulls from 1500 rpm (at 1500 it has 250 Nm, for example)

    It is worth asking about lpg at Energy Gaz Polska, they have an account on fb, on youtube, they have done many FSI's there will tell and advise.
  • #11 18277822
    Rybus85
    Level 23  
    Oh great for the hint. Well, and I have seen that this 1.5 FSI disconnects 2 cylinders and runs on the other two(I have seen on some videos how they tested the Kamiq). Always a saving, just curious how the longevity of this solution is.
    I will soon have the opportunity to drive the new Vitara with 1.4 boosterjet. It is also said to need little fuel,so we will see by my leg how much it will be ;) .

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the pros and cons of the 1.5 TSI and 1.4 T GDI engines, particularly in the context of potential vehicle choices like the Skoda Kamiq, Scala, and Kia Ceed Kombi. Participants express skepticism about modern turbocharged engines, citing concerns over reliability and longevity, especially for high-mileage use. The 1.4 T GDI is favored for its performance, but there are concerns regarding its compatibility with LPG systems. The conversation highlights the challenges of finding reliable second-hand vehicles and the preference for naturally aspirated engines over smaller turbocharged options. Fuel consumption and engine performance are also discussed, with references to specific models and their characteristics.
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