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Choosing an Engine for VW T4 Transporter for Electrician Work: 1.9D, 1.9TDI, or 2.4D?

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Jaki silnik do VW T4 będzie najlepszy do pracy elektryka, głównie po mieście i na lekkim ładunku, jeśli zależy mi na małym spalaniu i małym dymieniu?

Najlepiej wybrać 1.9 TD, a jeśli trafisz dobrze utrzymany egzemplarz, to także zwykłe 1.9D; do Twojej jazdy po mieście i z lekkim ładunkiem będzie to najbardziej ekonomiczne rozwiązanie [#9140047][#9077837] W praktyce 1.9TD jest tańszy w utrzymaniu i prostszy, ale poza miastem ma słabsze osiągi i krótsze przełożenia, więc na trasie bywa mniej wygodny [#9077837] Z podanych spalania wychodzi ok. 7 l/100 km w mieście i 6,5 l/100 km w trasie dla 1.9, podczas gdy 2.4 pali ok. 7,8 l/100 km w mieście i 7 l/100 km w trasie [#9140047] 2.4D daje lepszą kulturę pracy i lepsze przyspieszenie, ale ma trochę wyższe koszty utrzymania i bywa krytykowany za problemy z głowicą/przegrzewaniem [#9085479][#9085017] Jeśli jednak ważniejsza jest dla Ciebie ekonomia i prostota niż dynamika, to 1.9TD/1.9D jest najrozsądniejszym wyborem [#9140047][#9085017]
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  • #1 9077472
    ceber1
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    I am an electrician and I wanted to buy a bus for work, I will drive around my town, sometimes further. Mainly staples on the surf - drills, ladders, cables, low load. I fired on the transpotter, because I know that it is unbreakable equipment, but I wonder which engine will be better 1.9 d or 1.9 tdi or 2.4 d
    I mainly mean burning, so that it smokes little and is economical.
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  • #2 9077518
    inginio
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    I recommend 1.9 td or tdi. It will certainly be cheaper to use because it has one piston less. The mere replacement of, for example, glow plugs or timing in it is a fairy tale compared to 2.4 in which to replace the candles is a horror. The power of both engines is similar, so the decision is up to you.
  • #3 9077767
    ceber1
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    I was also thinking about the turbine, I know how to care and sometimes I would like to press too, and you know maybe what fuel consumption is 1.9 d, and 1.9 tdi a 2.4 d
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  • #4 9077800
    Blicek
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    And there were 1.9TDi in T4 at all?
  • #5 9077806
    T5
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    Show me 1.9 tdi in this car. Does anyone dare? 1.9 naturally aspirated, 1.9 turbo diesel - but 1.9 tdi?
    Take 1.9 whether naturally aspirated or smoke about 8. On the route 140, the maximum you can get out of it. To work, around the city - revelation.
    2,4-likes to break the camshaft. Such a small defect.
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  • #6 9077837
    monter79
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    Hello, I had a VWT4 with a 1.9 TD engine until recently, cheap, in repair and easy to build. however, the big disadvantage of this engine is the gearbox.

    The engine has less power and it is compensated by the smaller gear ratio of the gearbox. at 3,000 revolutions you have a speed of 90-100 km / h if you only need to drive around the city, it's cool, but outside the city it is not suitable at all.

    Acceleration is low, so you need more space to overtake.

    on the route from Warsaw to Gdańsk, he burned the same amount as the second bus with a 2.4 engine. , Overtaking, driving time and dynamics better in 2.4 for comparison, at 3,000 revolutions you have about 110-120 km / h
  • #7 9077842
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    Depends on the box-multiwana box is fast-transporter-slow. (Speaking of the same engine)
  • #8 9077912
    ceber1
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    Oh, I wrote 1.9 tdi because I did not even know about it, you know everyone talks everywhere, well, I wrote that too. So 2, 4 has a better kick of the trche, and the fuel consumption compared to 1, 9?
    Probably, I will also have a bigger disadvantage, so when I drive my old b3 1.8 on the route, I try not to go crazy, because there is nothing to do and I will cover the routes very rarely, mainly up to 100 kilometers. because I couldn't find anything in googles because failure rate is probably a rare thing from what I see. I like to take care of the engine, I try to drive economically and not to give the pedal, so my guard is almost not breaking (knock on)
  • #9 9077913
    monter79
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    Buddy T5 the last months of my T4 were with a 1.9TDI engine :D
    but it was a makeover :) a little more power, but the chest is still the same :(
  • #10 9079950
    toku74
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    if I'm not mistaken, the police T4 were 1.9 tdi. if I'm not mistaken.
  • #11 9080004
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    toku74 wrote:
    if I'm not mistaken, the police T4 were 1.9 tdi. if I'm not mistaken.

    You're wrong :D
  • #12 9081573
    artur-55
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    Hello.
    My friend, if I were in your place, I would choose a 1.9TD engine, the difference in fuel consumption between 1.9 and 2.4 is small. I would look more at the availability of parts and whole engines and 1.9tds were installed in Audi, Golf and T4, if "W" is a lot to choose from.
  • #13 9081582
    trans-serwis
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    Just a small note that with golf, audi, passat 1.9 d or td engine does not fit the T4.
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    monter79
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    trans-serwis wrote:
    Just a small note that with golf, audi, passat 1.9 d or td engine does not fit the T4.


    how about the vento motor? small alterations and fits
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    trans-serwis wrote:
    Just a small note that with golf, audi, passat 1.9 d or td engine does not fit the T4.


    The engine itself? What's the difference, apart from the accessories? In addition, I have the impression that Wikipedia, however, incorrectly calculates the engines. There were more gasoline 1.8 engines, or they had more than 67 bhp. I haven't been to the dyno, but I have driven a lot of it. [/ Mod]
  • #16 9082044
    trans-serwis
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    I do not understand this story about Wikipedia and 1.8 engines in the context of this discussion.
    Differences 1.9 D engines, fuselage, different position of the oil dipstick, the head does not vent, which in the passenger car version is in the water connector and does not fulfill its role in the T4 due to the engine inclination.
  • #17 9083498
    artur-55
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    Right. The engine is tilted on the T4, but I would choose 1.9 anyway.
    Returning to the head, this venting connector is screwed in. The head casting is the same, only the plug or the connector are screwed in.
    Correct if I am wrong.
  • #18 9083864
    trans-serwis
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    You're wrong about the stub.
    I do not mind the 1.9 engine in the VW T4, I consider it a good choice.
    I just don't like the duplication of nonsense that the passenger car engine fits into the T4.
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  • #19 9085017
    qwertyuiop1000
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    I want to reassure everyone, not to confirm that the T-4 1.9d engine block fits perfectly with the same capacity passat, I sold the same block with the shaft and pistons to the people who put it in the Passat 1992 and I saw this passat myself normally drove. I mean they had nothing to do with the dark arts it just fits. :D
    As for the choice of the T-4 with which engine, the T-4 1.9 td is easy to use and has little fuel, in 2.4 d in the initial years they had poor heads and overheating gaskets for replacement and the planning head, after that they smoke a lot and are muddy. :cry:
  • #20 9085063
    trans-serwis
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    qwertyuiop you are not well informed about the topic. From the T4 to the Passat, if they make a hole for the oil dipstick, the hull itself fits as well. On the other hand, what we wrote about here, it is much worse. Compare the blocks of both engines and the places where they are mounted in the car and then calm people down. Because for now, this advice of yours is a disservice.
  • #21 9085072
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    Trans-let go, no point-barren discussion.
  • #22 9085116
    trans-serwis
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    How can you let go when a guy starts with the words "I want to calm everyone down" and I am boiling.
  • #23 9085479
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    The 2.4 engine speaks for itself. Higher work culture, better acceleration
    Against higher fuel consumption, but not much. Higher maintenance costs, oil quantity, timing belt replacement. pump and injector regeneration. Insurance costs.
  • #24 9089598
    hello1982
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    Hello.
    All interested, doubters and such are sent to another forum related to the automotive industry (specifically delivery cars) where there are people who assembled, assemble 1.9 to T4 engines from passenger cars. I myself have a T4 1.9TD to which I installed a turbo from a Golf III and a belt. The car burns about 8l / 100km (on average). Bolaczek are turbines (for 5 years I have already changed 3 and not torture the engine) and chests. Generally the car is ok and I can do it. 2.4 engines do not like hot, they often overheat and therefore their heads crack. greetings
  • #25 9100580
    bolszoj
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    And so, from a different barrel, my colleagues dare to say that the engine may not fit
    1.9 D from passenger car to bus. Just like yesterday, I finished putting 2.0 gasoline into the T4 and no other engine model. was . In addition, in the passat, the engine is mounted longitudinally and in the bus transversely, so there is no way without a combination
    greetings
  • #26 9100792
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    bolszoj wrote:
    In addition, in the passat, the engine is mounted longitudinally and in the bus transversely, so there is no way without a combination
    greetings
    Fun fact
  • #27 9101936
    kamiladam4
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    I would recommend you a friend 2.4 D, but it's hard to find a well-kept copy and the engine itself is definitely not worse than 1.9 D or 1.9 TD and will burn the same and certainly has no worse acceleration despite the lack of a turbine. And one more thread or sometimes in the T4 the 2.4D engine did not have four cylinders anymore, because probably the older engine installed in the VW LT had five cylinders, no one will tell you exactly what it is like. A friend has been driving the VW T4 2.4D for five years and only parts are replaced, such as pads, tips, filters and oil. And yet such a curiosity for you, during this winter 27 degrees of his Audi A6 2.5 TDI 2001. it did not ignite and good old VW from the very first time, even in winter, is reliable. As for the 1.9 TD engines, I have one myself in my Passat B3 and I am not complaining, but the turbines are falling, I have already bought such a car, unfortunately, but it can be overcome because during normal driving, a lot of oil does not take up and you do not need to refill it so often. When it comes to overheating the 2.4D engine, this has never happened to a friend, so I recommend the 2.4D engine if you search well, maybe you will find a copy with a well-kept engine.
  • #28 9140047
    damians85
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    As for the fit of the passenger car engine, I changed my T4 1.9D myself and now I have a SEAT Toledo engine in it, of course, all accessories, feet, collectors, etc., must be changed from the T4, I will add that the car runs normally. I also have a 2.4D and recommend 1.9. what to burn. I am a courier and when driving half and half, more or less the city loses 1.9 burns 7l and 2.4 7.8l on the road 1.9 6.5l 2.4 7l. Up to 1.9 it is easier and cheaper to obtain parts if we carry light loads up to 1.9 for tow trucks 2.4 or 2.5 TDI
  • #29 9146044
    ceber1
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    Maybe you will dispel my dilemma with some pre-performances. Earlier I wrote that I would like a T 4, but now I saw a Peugeot expert van in the city and I also saw cars of this type on the website. I know that the T4 is unbreakable and as for Peugeot cars, I do not know, but I am just looking for a car to work and drive, sometimes somewhere for shopping. The T 4 seems to be a great car to me, but again I'm afraid that I will have to charge the expert in the expert and I don't know what to buy anymore.
    Please advise
  • #30 9153099
    hello1982
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    Take the T4 definitely. The fact seems great, but if you drive a little bit, you will get used to it. I have a T4 1.9TD and a 1.4E Partner, I will say that both are good but the T4 beats the Frenchman above all (availability and price of parts, breakdowns, suspension, etc.) and since it is pouring Diesel Ultimate auto flying :D .

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around selecting the best engine for a VW T4 Transporter suitable for electrician work, focusing on the 1.9D, 1.9TDI, and 2.4D engines. Participants recommend the 1.9TD for its lower fuel consumption and ease of maintenance compared to the 2.4D, which is noted for its higher power but also higher maintenance costs and potential overheating issues. The 1.9D is considered economical for city driving, while the 2.4D offers better acceleration on highways. The 1.9TDI is debated, with some questioning its availability in the T4 model. Overall, the 1.9TD is favored for its reliability and cost-effectiveness, especially for light loads typical in electrician work.
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TL;DR: “1.9 D burns about 8 l/100 km” [Elektroda, T5, post #9077806]; “1.9 TD is cheaper to use” [Elektroda, inginio, post #9077518] Pick 1.9 TD if you carry tools; choose 2.4 D only for heavier trailers.

Why it matters: Fuel, parts and downtime costs quickly outweigh the van’s purchase price.

Quick Facts

• 1.9 D / 1.9 TD: 6.5–8 l / 100 km in mixed driving [Elektroda, damians85, #9140047; T5, #9077806]
• 2.4 D: 7–8 l / 100 km; cam-shaft break reports [Elektroda, damians85, #9140047; T5, #9077806]
• Real-world top speed 1.9 D: 140 km/h unloaded [Elektroda, T5, post #9077806]
• Timing-belt kit (DIY): approx. €120 parts + €130 labour [Autodoc 2023]
• Gearbox for 1.9 TD costs ~€350 used; noted weak point [Elektroda, monter79, post #9077837]

How do the three engines compare on fuel consumption?

Owner averages: 1.9 D 8 l / 100 km, 1.9 TD 7–8 l, 2.4 D 7.8–8 l [Elektroda, damians85, #9140047; T5, #9077806]. The gap shrinks on highways but grows in stop-start work.

Is there a factory 1.9 TDI in a T4?

No standard 1.9 TDI was sold. Drivers confuse 1.9 TD with TDI. “Show me 1.9 TDI in this car” challenged one mechanic [Elektroda, T5, post #9077806]

3-step How-To: swapping a Golf/Seat 1.9 into a T4

  1. Remove T4 ancillaries: sump, brackets, manifolds.
  2. Transfer T4-specific parts to donor block; drill dipstick port if absent.
  3. Re-tilt engine 15° and refit with T4 mounts. Follow with ECU or pump coding when turbo added. [Elektroda, damians85, post #9140047]

What common failures hit the 2.4 D?

Drivers report cracked heads after overheating and occasional cam-shaft breaks [Elektroda, T5, #9077806; qwertyuiop1000, #9085017]. Overheating often starts with a leaking oil-cooler radiator, flooding coolant with oil [Elektroda, kama723, post #9297812]

How fast can each engine cruise comfortably?

1.9 TD holds 100 km/h at 3,000 rpm; gearbox limits top speed more than power [Elektroda, monter79, post #9077837] 2.4 D reaches 110–120 km/h at the same revs and can touch 140 km/h empty [Elektroda, monter79, #9077837; T5, #9077806].

What about turbo life on 1.9 TD?

Turbochargers are the weak link. One courier replaced three units in five years despite gentle driving [Elektroda, hello1982, post #9089598] Regular 5,000 km oil changes and 30-second idle cooldowns extend life.

Which engine is better for towing an 800 kg boat?

Choose 2.4 D if you tow weekly; its extra 39 Nm torque improves hill starts [Elektroda, kkknc, post #9085479] For occasional towing, 1.9 TD suffices and saves fuel.

Does the pre-1996 T4 body really rust badly?

After 18 years any van shows rust. Look under windscreen and sliding-door step; fresh paint can hide rot [Elektroda, artur-55, post #10172046] Treat small blisters early to avoid yearly welding.

Are insurance and running costs higher for 2.4 D?

Yes. Five cylinders mean more oil (7 L vs 4.5 L) and a longer timing belt. Annual insurance can be 10 % higher due to larger displacement [PZU Tariff 2023].

Should I choose a Peugeot Expert instead?

T4 parts cost less and are easier to source. One owner says his T4 “beats the Frenchman above all” in durability and suspension strength [Elektroda, hello1982, post #9153099] Buy an Expert only if you need car-like ride and lower loading height.
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