[Solved] Comparing Fiat Bravo 2 Engines: 1.4 T-JET 150HP vs 1.9 JTD 150HP - Experience & Insight

Hello

I am considering buying a used Fiat Bravo 2.

I hesitate between the engines 1.4 T-JET 150HP and its equivalent 1.9 JTD also about 150 HP.
Diesel tempts me because of the greater moment and less fuel consumption.
Operation doesn't scare me. I would buy a factory version without DPF.
On the other hand, 1.4 T-Jet is a newer technology - a lighter car, more space under the hood, but less torque and much higher fuel consumption.
Given prices from diesel ads, they are also cheaper to buy.

I wonder how the suspension will endure the heavier diesel?
There were problems with it in stilo.
Can you share your experience of using these engines?
What does the turbine life look like?

I will say this, diesel operation is not limited to fuel and DPF ... because even a stupid battery will be more expensive because it must be stronger.
For this turbine ... dual mass .. injection
Ok turbo-gas also has it, but there is, for example, at 2 thousand revolutions 320 Nm, such a thing is nice to drive nicely pulls from below but the life of the clutch will be poor, especially if mainly the car will drive around the city and constantly stop and start.
In addition, so what if it has a greater moment as the performance is a bit worse? What does he give you? it's just diesel characteristics, a blow to the back and at 3,500 revolutions no longer drives.
With this combustion much higher in the T-jet I would rather not exaggerate 9.5 / 100 in the city of T-jet piles, while 1.9 jtd about 7.5 / 100

You can easily install an lpg installation for the T-jet.

I will say this, it all depends on the annual mileage and usage, as 4-5 km work is gasoline, even LPG does not pay, but as further routes - you can go in 1.9 jtd, because it's a nice engine.

It is also worth remembering that on average such a T-jet after 10 years has 150 thousand shelled, and 1.9 jtd will already have 250 thousand, it is not without significance for components and sometimes then the fun with diesel service begins.
Especially here, copies from across the Oder will have specific diesel runs.

Both engines in my opinion are very nice, except that I would not buy a diesel 2 km to the store or church, looking for cars that will have charged 250,000
Here the T-jet will come out better, as you can look for a lot of diesel.

Hello

Thank you for your answer.
The lower actual mileage for the T-jet is a good argument.

Low mileage to overcome - e.g. commuting is often given as an argument against a diesel engine. However, he does not bother me. I drove a car with such an engine for short distances and it was ok. There is an economic argument. Diesel models are now cheaper on the aftermarket.
I intend to avoid cars from Germany because they are always versions with factory DPF.
And I wanted to buy a car without a DPF factory.

As for the clutch: I have already driven a stilo 1.9 jtd and for the period of operation - 8.5 years I did not make the clutch. And when I sold it, the clutch was still running fine.
However, the suspension required constant care.

I would like to go into the LPG installation only as a last resort. This reduces the luggage capacity that I care about, and the lack of a spare wheel does not arrange me. It has proved its usefulness several times.

LightOfWinter wrote:

Hello

Thank you for your answer.
The lower actual mileage for the T-jet is a good argument.

Low mileage to overcome - e.g. commuting is often given as an argument against a diesel engine. However, he does not bother me. I drove a car with such an engine for short distances and it was ok. There is an economic argument. Diesel models are now cheaper on the aftermarket.
I intend to avoid cars from Germany because they are always versions with factory DPF.
And I wanted to buy a car without a DPF factory.

As for the clutch: I have already driven a stilo 1.9 jtd and for the period of operation - 8.5 years I did not make the clutch. And when I sold it, the clutch was still running fine.
However, the suspension required constant care.

I would like to go into the LPG installation only as a last resort. This reduces the luggage capacity that I care about, and the lack of a spare wheel does not arrange me. It has proved its usefulness several times.

1.4 T-jet, you add LPG and you drive without fail if the car is well cared for . As for 1.9JTD, it's like a colleague wrote dual mass, injection and turbo. Just because you didn't do it in stilo doesn't mean you won't do it in bravo either. In addition, we have more expensive OC + stupid battery in diesel. In addition, you may encounter cr pump sealing, replacement of washers under injectors and many other defects in a few years' diesel. I recommend PB

I would choose Pb.
cheaper parts many things you can change yourself e.g. candles where ON glow plugs are a mega stress whether it turns off or if there are flaps in the manifold, a wonderful egr valve and dozens of other elements so that diesel is currently falling out of the interest of buyers.

If you really want diesel, then look for 1.9 - I would look for good, well-kept art.

Hello

Ultimately, I bought a Fiat Bravo 1.4 Multiair 140HP in gasoline due to the status of an official I found