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Estimating the Cost of Wiring a 110 kV Line - Configuration Details Included

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  • #1 18350863
    Bodziokr
    Level 5  
    I would like to wire a 110 kV line in the following configuration:
    Estimating the Cost of Wiring a 110 kV Line - Configuration Details Included


    Does anyone know what the approximate cost of this operation is?
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  • #2 18350903
    nuszek
    Level 30  
    No one will tell you exactly how much it may cost, the cable itself is a considerable expense, and the conditions in which it is to be laid, field, buildings, etc.
  • #3 18350920
    Bodziokr
    Level 5  
    nuszek wrote:
    No one will tell you exactly how much it may cost, the cable itself is a considerable expense, and the conditions in which it is to be laid, field, buildings, etc.


    There are no buildings, a lawn, only two drillings will have to be made under the street. And the route will be longer after wiring, because as it now has 230, so ultimately it will have 270 m
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  • #4 18350958
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Will 110 kV cables have to be connected there?
  • #5 18350977
    Bodziokr
    Level 5  
    retrofood wrote:
    Will 110 kV cables have to be connected there?


    Yes, current mileage is blue, new mileage is red
  • #6 18350980
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    That is an additional cost.
  • #7 18351763
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    Bodziokr wrote:
    you will only need to do two drillings under the street.
    Only two passes..........
    Who will allow my colleague to do this - what distributor?
    This is how "se" will drill and run a cable for 110 kV.
    Just that - and not much else.

    The colleague must pay as much as the company indicated by the distributor wants.
    A large amount will come out.
  • #8 18351800
    nuszek
    Level 30  
    Check the price of the cables first, you didn't specify what kind of cable it should be and what cross-section, 110 kV itself doesn't say anything.
  • #9 18351834
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    This wired line near me has a separate cable for each phase, two drills will be small ...
  • #10 18351869
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    retrofood wrote:
    This wired line near me has a separate cable for each phase, two drills will be small ...

    Exactly. Six drills for the line plus two for the fiber. In addition, a new HV cable pole.
    I will not mention all the technical and legal documentation.
    In my opinion, the author is taking a hoe to the moon.
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  • #11 18352045
    marwis00
    Level 14  
    The cost will exceed 1 million (net) - assuming it's a single-track.
    But you probably don't seriously think about it when looking for an investment valuation on an electrode.
  • #12 18353456
    Bodziokr
    Level 5  
    I'm not serious at the moment, just wanted to know the very estimated cost. I wanted to buy a plot of land that this line runs through and I'm wondering if it's worth it. I expected the cost to be around 1 million...
  • #13 18353516
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Bodziokr wrote:
    I'm not serious at the moment, just wanted to know the very estimated cost. I wanted to buy a plot of land that this line runs through and I'm wondering if it's worth it. I expected the cost to be around 1 million...

    How important is this plot? Take it easy. Wiring doesn't mean the end of trouble. The land above the cables and with strips of several meters on both sides cannot be used, the area must be fenced off and fenced off, nothing but trouble. It is pointless to place any hopes on such a plot.
  • #14 18353638
    Bodziokr
    Level 5  
    retrofood wrote:
    Bodziokr wrote:
    I'm not serious at the moment, just wanted to know the very estimated cost. I wanted to buy a plot of land that this line runs through and I'm wondering if it's worth it. I expected the cost to be around 1 million...

    How important is this plot? Take it easy. Wiring doesn't mean the end of trouble. The land above the cables and with strips of several meters on both sides cannot be used, the area must be fenced off and fenced off, nothing but trouble. It is pointless to place any hopes on such a plot.


    It's not important to me emotionally :lol: it's just business, so you take it easy :D
    Fenced area? Nonsense... The same line is still wired and is located at a maximum distance of 5 m from the buildings, i.e. if I located it on the border with a road plot, I could build in the designated building line, I have to move away from the overhead line at least 15 m, which causes that 2/3 of the attractive 0.5 ha plot in Krakow is excluded from development. Now do you understand? :lol:
  • #15 18353674
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    I suspected something like that, but you need to know that it is one thing when the power comes to built-up plots, and another thing when someone wants to build next to the line. In "Murator" a situation was described when the power industry released wires over a newly built house. Placed in accordance with all permits. 220 kV line. And the owners did not manage to get rid of these wires from above the roof, it turned out that the power industry has building permits from the province governor, and that the line runs over the house... The culprits were not found and the situation became a stalemate.
    But you would try to build a house ... Ba! Try to plant a tree under such a line on your own plot!
    Therefore, be careful with the conviction that if there is something, it can also be the same for me. It's strangely not symmetrical.
    But go ahead, good luck!
  • #16 18353750
    Bodziokr
    Level 5  
    retrofood wrote:
    I suspected something like that, but you must know that the situation when the power comes to built-up plots is different than when someone wants to build next to the line. In "Murator" a situation was described when the power industry released wires over a newly built house. Placed in accordance with all permits. 220 kV line. And the owners did not manage to get rid of these wires from above the roof, it turned out that the power industry has building permits from the province governor, and that the line runs over the house ... The culprits were not found and the situation became a stalemate.
    But you would try to build a house ... Ba! Try to plant a tree under such a line on your own plot!
    Therefore, be careful with the conviction that if there is something, it can also be the same for me. It's strangely not symmetrical.
    But go ahead, good luck!


    Of course, I know very well that such situations happen ... I know it from my own experience, I bought a plot of land with a historic wooden building, where a few years ago my neighbor somehow got permission to build a new wooden building 5 m from mine, and it should be 16 . .. The situation is not an absolute stalemate, everything depends on a properly conducted procedure and determination. If the voivode issued a permit for a private plot without the consent of its owner, i.e. without the right to dispose of it for construction purposes and contrary to the issued decision of the National Bank of Poland for a single-family house, it means that he did so in violation of the law. An application for resumption of the proceedings, annulment of the decision and departure from the plot ... it will take a while but it will be dealt with
  • #17 18353759
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Bodziokr wrote:
    If the voivode issued a permit for a private plot without the consent of its owner, i.e. without the right to dispose of it for construction purposes and contrary to the issued decision of the National Bank of Poland for a single-family house, it means that he did so in violation of the law.

    The point is that it is over the plot and not on the plot. :D The line is standing and who will now decide to change its route?
    The subject is thoroughly described, the appeals are several volumes of files, the lawyers have dealt with it and nothing ... Should I find a link?
    link

    However, it is a 110 kV line.
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  • #18 18353811
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    Bodziokr wrote:
    I have to move away from the overhead line at least 15 m, which means that 2/3 of the attractive 0.5 ha plot in Krakow is excluded from development.

    Is it in Krakow or in the vicinity, are you building it yourself? This is to be done as soon as it is calculated.
  • #20 18354267
    jozgo
    Level 42  
    You have to start not with Elektroda, but with applying to Tauron Dystrybucja for the conditions for the reconstruction of the 110 kV line.
    I understand that this is the Tauron line, not PSE.
    The case can be considered positively as it is an extension of an already existing 110 kV cable line. It would be difficult to get approval for an "insert".
    The existing HV 110 kV cable pole (not LV or LV) to be relocated.
    It is only on the basis of the obtained redevelopment conditions that the case can be examined.
    Location decision (if necessary). A decision on environmental conditions (whether it is necessary) for a 110 kV line may or may not be required. etc., etc.
  • #21 18354425
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    retrofood wrote:
    the area must be fenced and cordoned off
    Is it the area around the pole from which the cable goes underground? I understand the lanes excluded from use, but I have not heard of fencing the area through which the cable runs.
    In connection with the reconstruction of the Łódź-Fabryczna station (actually the construction of a new one), the 110 kV overhead line was shortened by several hundred meters and led to the transformer station by an underground cable. The area is open and accessible.
  • #22 18354433
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    vodiczka wrote:
    retrofood wrote:
    the area must be fenced and cordoned off
    Is it the area around the pole from which the cable goes underground? I understand the lanes excluded from use, but I have not heard of fencing the area.
    In connection with the reconstruction of the Łódź-Fabryczna station (actually the construction of a new one), the 110 kV overhead line was shortened by several hundred meters and led to the transformer station by an underground cable. The area is open and accessible.

    The cable near me (the whole lane) is fenced and there are only designated pedestrian crossings. The fence is so symbolic, something similar to posts and a chain separating the pavement from the road at some intersections. But there is why I don't know.
  • #23 18354501
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    retrofood wrote:
    But there is why I don't know.
    So it's a mega-curiosity. Maybe there is some other infrastructure besides this cable? I know the exact routes of many 110kV cable lines with a cross-section of 1000 or even 2x2000mm² per phase, multi-circuit, in extreme cases six-circuit. And there are no fences, apart from the station grounds, of course. As far as I know, the only route of the HVDC 450kV cable near Słupsk in Poland is also not fenced.
  • #24 18354583
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    zbich70 wrote:
    retrofood wrote:
    But there is why I don't know.
    So it's a mega-curiosity.

    Maybe because it was one of the first cabled lines (sections) in Poland? And the designers sinned with excessive caution? Its length is approx. 2.5 km, industrial areas. Oh, and along the entire length, there are (were) warning signs every few dozen meters. Most were stolen "as souvenirs".
  • #26 18355333
    marwis00
    Level 14  
    retrofood wrote:
    zbich70 wrote:
    retrofood wrote:
    But there is why I don't know.
    So it's a mega-curiosity.

    Maybe because it was one of the first cabled lines (sections) in Poland? And the designers sinned with excessive caution? Its length is approx. 2.5 km, industrial areas. Oh, and along the entire length, there are (were) warning signs every few dozen meters. Most were stolen "as souvenirs".

    Industrial in what sense? Because, for example, in Anwil, in their area, HV cables are to be separated with barriers. But in normal terrain, I've never heard of such a requirement.
  • #27 18355388
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    marwis00 wrote:

    Industrial in what sense?
    In the fact that it is an industrial area, there are several companies there. Nevertheless, the roads between them are generally accessible.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around estimating the cost of wiring a 110 kV line in a specified configuration. Participants highlight that the cost can vary significantly based on factors such as cable type, installation conditions, and necessary permits. The author clarifies that the installation will involve drilling under a street and extending the line from 230 m to 270 m. Responses indicate that the cost could exceed 1 million (net) and emphasize the complexities involved, including the need for multiple drills, legal documentation, and potential restrictions on land use above the cables. The conversation also touches on the implications of building near existing power lines and the importance of consulting with local distributors for approval and conditions.
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