Monitoring Real-Time Energy Consumption on Norax 3 Meter: Step-by-Step Guide

As far as I know, the electricity costs in the prepayment meter are higher. Second, what will it do for you? When the funds run out, you will be sitting in the dark?

I just found out that this neighbor bought electricity for PLN 2,500 and is now laughing at the increases. Besides, I am not a lawyer or historian and I can buy electricity as much as needed once a month.

Morsik50 wrote:

The neighbor has a prepayment meter and he buys electricity on a regular basis without any combination.

And what? Has it cheaper? Probably he will save a bit when his loan runs out and he will spend the weekend with candles.

Morsik50 wrote:

Besides, I am not a lawyer or historian and I can buy electricity as much as needed once a month.

Having an ordinary meter, you can also have electricity under control. It is enough to write down the meter reading once a month, calculate the amount for such consumption, and pay this amount to the electricity bill. Then, even with a half-yearly settlement, you will not have a surprise in the form of a bill for several thousand zlotys. Simple and effective, and does not require any complicated steps. Well, but if you think you want to play with prepayments, have fun. And another thing is that the installation of such a meter may cost several hundred zlotys.

Added after 4 [minutes]:

Morsik50 wrote:

I just found out that this neighbor bought electricity for PLN 2,500 and is now laughing at the increases.

Somehow I don't want to believe it. The operator surely corrects the prices in such a meter somehow. But I won't argue with that because I'm not sure.

"The devil is in the details." If he bought for a certain amount, they will convert at the current prices. If he has bought a certain amount of kWh, that amount will be available for use.

Pan.Kropa wrote:

Somehow I don't want to believe it. The operator certainly adjusts the prices in such a meter somehow. But I won't argue with that because I'm not sure.

The previous speaker is right here - he bought energy for a certain amount, i.e. a certain number of kilowatt-hours according to the current tariff, and no price changes apply to him.
This is basically the only plus of prepayment settlements - once bought and once paid according to the prices currently in force. And that's where the advantages end.
In another topic, someone wrote that the meter does not accept the code and that he sat in the dark for the weekend, reportedly called the helpline and / or the energy emergency. Unfortunately, he did not say how the case ended.

zbich70 wrote:

he has purchased energy for a specific amount, i.e. a certain number of kilowatt-hours according to the current tariff, and he is not affected by any price changes.

Are you sure about it? I am not necessarily, but possible. As I wrote earlier, the details written in the contract in small print are important. The only advantage of the prepayment meter is that it does not surprise you with a high invoice. The energy from the prepayment meter is more expensive than any invoiced tariff. It is convenient (considered beneficial) only to those who think differently without self-discipline.

DiZMar wrote:

Are you sure about it?

Yes. Kilowatt-hours are loaded into the meter, not zlotys, just like petrol in the tank.

DiZMar wrote:

The energy from the prepayment meter is more expensive than any invoiced tariff.

It is the same, only the subscription fee is omitted.

PS. If someone still does not understand what these prepaid meters are all about - please associate "pre-paid phone".
You won't buy it in time, you won't talk.
Exhausted limit and it's over, emergency calls only.
The same is electricity - you don't buy it earlier, you don't have it, ;)

Sorry for editing ... typos came in.

@ zbich70 is right. In addition, the cost of installing a prepayment meter is borne by the operator at least at PGE.

This topic hid here ... https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3905409.html
Anyone can say something more about "prepaids"?
How cool is that - cool invention?
How many days earlier do you calculate your energy consumption so that you don't have a hand in the potty?

zbich70 wrote:

How cool is that - cool invention?
How many days earlier do you calculate your energy consumption so that you don't have a hand in the potty?

Oh there, oh there ... All fuel (except for some companies) refuel in advance and somehow function. Some of them do not even apply to price increases, because they are still refueling for 50 or 100 zlotys. The fact that some people will run out of fuel on the road, in addition to in the forest or electricity in the middle of the weekend night, is a different story, but

I currently have a situation of significantly increased electricity consumption in the apartment, I found out after a large surcharge for the last six-month billing period.
My electricity consumption from about 1000 kWh for a period of 6 months (about 5.5 kWh per day) has doubled. At that time, I bought and connected only a soundbar to the TV, which most of the time is in standby mode. Last day (yesterday) consumption was 13 kWh.
I ordered wattmeters to check exact consumption, and in the meantime I checked my Norax 3 meter in the corridor.

The test consisted of turning off the fuses on the board in the apartment (all including the main one) and watching the meter. This is what it looked like:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bczws9metpuwdr...8-28.jpg?rlkey=t3c4bo00k2p08vvmrco4lry9u&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7ivb20bmfai14p...6-32.mov?rlkey=gm1kb000eodv19f8zacy85kg0&dl=0

Unfortunately, there is no indication of instantaneous consumption on the meter, so I watched the arrows above L1/L2/L3 and the red diode.

Do I understand correctly that with the fuses off there should be no wear on the L1/L2/L3 phases?

For me, above the L1 phase, a wear arrow appears every now and then and a diode flashes once in a while (as in the video above).

I would like to ask for help in interpreting such an indication, tomorrow I want to call the operator (Tauron) with a request for a visit and I do not know if I have grounds for this or maybe it's my wrong interpretation.

Thank you in advance!

DiZMar wrote:

After counting the flashes within a certain time and then converting them into power (kW) according to the formula:

Where:
P - power consumed in kW
I - the number of pulses per 1 kWh given on the meter (in the past it was the number of revolutions of the dial per 1 kWh).
i - the number of counted impulses (in the past it was the number of counted revolutions of the dial).
t - time of counting pulses (formerly the rotation of the disc) expressed in hours (hours), e.g. 15 minutes = 0.25 h, 12 minutes = 0.2 h, 6 minutes = 0.1 h

Using this formula you can calculate the inverse of power (1/P). Correct pattern:
P= i / (I xt)