Transferring VHS Tapes to Computer Without Quality Loss: Using Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE

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Hello! I'm green on ripping, hence my question. Does any of your colleagues know what I need to buy to transfer VHS tapes to the computer at the same time? without losing quality ? I would like to do it professionally, once and for all. I've heard about grabers, but as far as I know,...

viayner · Accepted Answer

Hello,
if your computer (standard does not have any video input) then you need to buy a video grabber or some other video adapter card, each card will slightly modify the signal (ADC converters) theoretically more expensive card = better quality.
On the other hand, I would not exaggerate with this quality, the signal from the VHS system is not the top quality.
Connections: the grabber and to it you get videoOut, Lout and Rout signals from the SCART-AV1 connector during normal playback of the cassette by the VCR.
Another issue is the format to which you rip, if you use any compression then you may notice a loss of quality here.
Regards

Dra98 · Accepted Answer

For this equipment, Video Grabber remains. It is not too problematic. I used to use a six-head VCR, a PCI card with TV input, a decent SCART cable and overall the quality was close to the original. You can find detailed instructions, e.g. on YouTube, on how to do this.

Noob97 · Answer

What exactly is the name of the input that this expansion card is supposed to have? Could a colleague provide an example model?

Noob97 · Answer

Well, from what I read about these videograbbers, which a friend sent above from the Allegro, there are a lot of comments that terrible quality and they do not recommend VHS.

Maybe such a PCIe card would be better?

sztajger · Answer

Hello ... the topic has been bothering me for some time, so I was looking for. I found a few ways: 1- the aforementioned video grabber ... supposedly works, but medium / weak. 2- graphics card with the so-called vivo (I do not know the requirements) - supposedly the best of the cheap methods. 3-digit video camera - apparently has chinch inputs and you can also rip - very positively assessed ... but I note that I have not tested any of the methods ... I forgot about combo devices, i.e. a VCR with a DVD recorder and / or hdd. .

Added after 2 [hours] 17 [minutes]:

The tv card should also be checked ...

Noob97 · Answer

I read the topic and in fact from what I can see it is like this:

1.videograbber ---> fatal responses
2. Desktop DVD Recorder ---> the reviews are ok
3.Camera with AV input ---> very good reviews has this way
4. expansion cards with TV inputs ---> I couldn't find any clear opinions here, I would be grateful for a little more information on this method

These analog cameras are a bit expensive, and I can't find these expansion cards too much, and I don't know any opinions on this method.
If I reject the videograbber method, a DVD recorder would probably be the best. They are used on OLX from PLN 50. Can someone please say a few words about this method?
The plan is that I will record it on DVDs, then put it on the computer and do a simple editing (I will just cut out what is not important and arrange the rest chronologically), then I will record it on DVDs again for archives

I read something like this, that this method with a DVD burner has the disadvantage that you cannot just mount the materials because it is decoded and encoded again and quality is lost. I do not understand too much? Even if, for example, I combine 2x movies into 1x movie, all the material will be recoded from the beginning and I will lose quality?

Finally, a question like this:
Summing up from what I read, in order to be able to save VHS recordings on a digital medium, you will always need an analog-to-digital converter. In the case of a camera, it has a built-in converter. In the case of a videograbber, it is probably an analog-to-digital converter? It looks similar with these expansion cards.
Well, what does it look like with a DVD writer then? Does the DVD recorder also have an analog-to-digital converter that allows it to save such an analog image on a DVD?

Robert B · Answer

Yes. Certainly, for 2-3 dozen. Be interested in branded devices, e.g.

thereminator · Answer

I anticipate the question right away - I have not tested the presented solution. I just hit the video a few months ago and linking as one of the options.

Coronus · Answer

Or a Panasonic DMR-EZ485V VCR or Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro 1 HD / SD (used and does not have to be for 4K, it will be cheaper) looks like this

rzober89 · Answer

Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro 99% will not work if we do not have a separate Time Base Corrector

haderach · Answer

There used to be a lot of AGP cards with VIVO (Video In Video Out), especially Radeons with the Ati Rage Theater chip. Example below:

smootny · Answer

What video capture software did you use?

Rhotax · Answer

Hmmm ... I don't know if I missed the point somewhere, but quality deterioration probably does not occur when dropping from VHS? Unless you say that these analog-to-digital converters .. can be so shabby that add 'rubbish' or lose some 'pixels'?
Because I thought that the loss of quality occurs only in two moments:
a) if you dump in a poor resolution (lower than theoretically provided by the VHS standard, and this is probably less than 6 ?? x 6 ?? px),
b) you start to compress the thrown material with some codec.

My experience is that in the days of Windows Me, I had an additional ATI card (if that matters, I'll try to dig through the history of what model it was). It had separate cables / video inputs. Your program for dropping, watching TV through the antenna. And when I dropped from VHS there, for me, the quality was identical to the source material. And for sure the quality was better than when I was just playing from VCR to VCR (to another VHS cassette).
Of course, without any compression - the material then took up enormous amounts, but ATI had some "magic" codecs, which made the material half the size, and yet the quality seemed intact.
It's just that none of my friends could watch it, so then I compressed with DivX etc. and then some "fractals" started to be made.

Some time ago I tried such a simple "grabber" in the form of a larger USB stick with cables

But I got stuck with the audio not working, fucked that crap, and didn't come to judging video quality

thereminator · Answer

The sound can be captured separately and then added to the ripped video material in an editing program.

helmud7543 · Answer

It can, but it can run away. It is enough that it will be stretched / contracted in relation to the film by a second for two hours. Then get a match.
Random quality when it comes to grabers. Once, a client brought me one with the cassettes for PLN 30. I tested it out of curiosity - the quality was very good.

smootny · Answer

ok, but I still mean some decent ripping soft - I already have a graber.

Rhotax · Answer

Hmmm ... I remember that with this grabber I had - was it soft? Maybe I will start with the cliché - VirtualDub.

biuro61 · Answer

Take a look at the IMPRESO Studio in Gdańsk. It is completely unprofitable to invest in equipment for one cassette. A studio and functional VCR costs over PLN 2,000, a professional converter not less than PLN 5,000, cables, etc. VHS is VHS so you know that even the best equipment will not be miraculous, but for example in IMPRESO in Gdańsk you can be 100% sure that you have pulled out from the max cassette! Regards!

smootny · Answer

You would be a good marketer - as long as you are not already:]

helmud7543 · Answer

A gross exaggeration with these prices, both for VCRs and interception devices. The more so as if you want to maximize it, it is good to have several VCRs from different companies, or at least series, because sometimes the issue of mechanics and filtering changes a lot. On one pixelosis after encryption, on another not. The picture is jumping on one of them, and not on the other. On one the sound is clear, on the other it is muffled (with standard audio). On one it loses hi-fi stereo (then the effect is massacre as it is on the whole tape) on another it is stable. Will you be adjusting the angle of the audio / tracking head for each cassette? Nobody does that. And I've already played the picture and sound separately - this is also fun because it can travel over time. I had the opportunity to test professional VCRs with 7 heads or something like that, with tbc, the typical editing ones, and not necessarily better than the consumer quality. Suffice it to say that I have already had cases where the best quality came out on the old, clunky, clunky Sanyo. Marketing as a whisper. As we are on the topic, I will say what I think. I don't know what equipment they use. It can be assumed that professional or semi-professional (judging by the offer), but we do not know it 100%. I will not comment on HD upscaling - I have not tested it, I do not know what it gives and how much better the result than upscaling directly on TV. However, as for the SD resolution and the sound plus option (I do even more than written here), it's a trial of a decent video editor and a bit of fun and you can do it for free at home.

Dziarski Hank · Answer

Very weak. If he wants to advertise on a forum where it is forbidden, he would do it. An account with some experience, some useful posts on various topics. It would look plausible. And this is how he sets up an account a few minutes after the last post and tries to advertise a company from scratch ... The post will go to the trash when mode looks at the applications ... This is not done (here). Coming back - I think graber is 25% of the success. The rest is a high-end VCR with mechanics in perfect condition. Like something from the old golden years of quality - well then - the mechanics must undergo a major overhaul. Not only belts - motor and shaft bearings, rubber bands, rollers. Then the condition of the electronics, capacitors, the condition of the head, finally the tuning of the whole ... The best grabber for nothing, like a scrap VCR ...

slavekg · Answer

Good morning,
I have a lot of VHS tapes (recordings from TV from the 90s, a few original tapes) and I want to rip some of them to digital format.
I have a Panasonic NV-HD640 VCR and a Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick 330e computer TV card. I connect the VCR to the card using the SCART -> Composite cable (i.e. VCR output via SCART, card input via cinch). I also tried the SCART -> S-Video cable, but it failed, there was no image. Either something does not "click" or this VCR does not support S-Video. I bet on the latter, but if anyone knows about it and can confirm it, please.

My question is: if I bought a Super VHS VCR (Panasonic or JVC) and connected it to the card with a SCART -> S-Video cable, would I get a better result in terms of image quality than in the current solution? Remembering that these are "regular" VHS tapes, not S-VHS. Or maybe an S-VHS VCR and S-Video input won't help here?

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