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Seeking the Best LTE Modem/Router Upgrade for Huawei E3372: Stability and Performance

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  • #1 18848815
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    Hello, after a few years I have a Huawei E3372 modem. It was permanently connected to the pc because it is the basic internet equipment at home. Now it begins to rain, probably because it has a hiccup every few seconds, while observing, for example, ping while playing, I see that it jumps upwards in red and from around a stable 60 it jumps on 400 or even much more because tens of thousands of pings such as 21000 or 40000. It's such a half-second long jumps, goes back to 60 and in a few seconds the same thing. Overall, this leads to 100% lost and no further play is involved.

    And now my dilemma, I will buy the same modem, i.e. E3372, or a newer one, but I do not know which ones are newer because it is difficult to find out by the symbols, but mine, since it is a few years old, probably already has a few newer ones. Which will be the best?

    The second option is a router or wireless because it happens that I take my laptop and modem for a trip, then I could have a laptop with a modem mobile, I also have a tablet with a SIM slot, so it's not necessary, but it's always more convenient with a laptop than a tablet, although the size and the weight speaks for the tablet. But that's my problem and it's not up for discussion. I usually use a tablet outside and a laptop computer for trips.
    Or a stationary router, e.g. HUAWEI B535 because it is probably modern, fast and cheap, or a modem connection such as E3372 and a stationary router - then I have a stationary modem + router and the modem itself for trips.

    Recently I have been using E3372 for several years, without external antennas, at night up to 25Mb / s and day 5-10. It's roughly because I rarely checked. Everything was normal, only the download was taking a long time at these speeds. I have windows in my apartment to the south, the location is Warsaw, ul. Irysowa 27. If it matters, it's the 8th floor.

    Please indicate which modem models are the best now, which solution will provide me with the best Internet performance at home, and which equipment will provide me with the best performance and will be the most universal, taking into account the cards of foreign operators?
    Well, or rather a stationary router like the HUAWEI B535 and a modem for trips, or a modem + ordinary router will allow me to perform well because I see modems for PLN 50-80 and routers for several dozen PLN, but I have no idea which models are good. Or maybe a mobile router will be a good solution, but I would like to have one that can be connected to a computer with a cable, not via wi-fi. The advantage of the mobile is that I could use it for trips, as a router connected to a laptop by cable and at the same time to a phone or tablet via wi-fi. At home, I could also use wi-fi for various devices, but this is the same situation as with a stationary router. In the mobile and stationary versions of the router, I could use wi-fi at home, or with a mobile one on trips. But just as well I need a modem to the Internet at home and on trips. Except the router seems to be better, it will probably provide better internet, is it?
    So far I use the Orange network, I did a few years ago tests which network works best, Tmobile was slow, Plus also disconnected from time to time, Play, despite the fact that it works based on BTS Plus, also caused problems but it worked differently, already I don't remember which one was better - Plus or Play. Orange fared the best and I have never had any problems with it. I think I have 400m for BTS, I don't remember anymore, but there are two or three at a similar distance. I don't remember where the BTS map is, but I looked a few years ago and I have the impression that nothing has changed since then. But I would check if I found this map.

    Also, please advise which solutions will be the best, please provide the models.
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  • #2 18849005
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Orange Internet in Warsaw with DL 5-10Mb / s is a drama, just like the use of E3372, modern equipment is several epochs away from it, just as there is no justification for buying B535 in this location, it's a weak router when you have coverage 4 CC CA in Orange with BTS NetWorks Stwosza 44 or on 3CC CA without LTE800 from the station on Smoluchowskiego 1. Of course, your operator analysis is a lot of nonsense because, first of all, T-mobile uses the same NetWorks BTS as Orange and secondly, Play has its own LTE network and nearby 2 stations with aggregation of 4 LTE bands at Stwosza 50 and Modzelewski 40. Only Plus stands out from the rest and is there as thin as borscht with stations at Smoluchowski with LTE1800 and at Lotników 20 with LTE1800 + 900. Show some Orange tests but outside on the phone from https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.mroczis.netmonster&hl=pl and a screen from the app and speedtest, also test Play, now 100GB without the contract is with this operator for PLN 5 per month. You have not written what the Orange offer is, in Play subscriptions are now better and the equipment is owned for little money. The problem with Orange does not have to be related to E3372, you need to diagnose its network and LTE bands at home, what version, regular or HiLINK?
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  • #3 18849888
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    Normal version E3372. Rather, it's his fault because it started suddenly and is still there. As it was impossible to use the net in this way, I put the same card into the older model and there is no problem, but there is max HSPA + because it is E3131.

    My "analysis", which I gave earlier, are attempts with prepaid cards of these operators quite a few years ago, maybe something has changed, from what I remember, different networks in the pre-paid offer had speed limits, transfer limits, etc. Not to mention the fact that Plus and Tmobile were stealing transfer / funds from the account, etc. But this is not what I wanted to write about here. Therefore, this is not nonsense, but the results of tests carried out repeatedly at different times of the day. Orange always worked, sometimes better and sometimes worse, others so-so, and the Plus could only be used around 3-4 am at a good speed, during the day you could boldly throw it into the trash.

    100GB Internet Play is a one-off per month, so this is a temporary solution for this moment, but maybe I will use it to test this network. It's just that you only need to register your card for ...

    Well, the BTS on Kaczmarskiego and Stwosza streets are not visible from my windows. The one on Kaczmarskiego Street is covered with a 10-story block on Blacharska Street and the one on Smoluchowskiego Street is similar. The ones on Stwosza 44 and 50 are to the north, looking from my block, i.e. exactly on the other side, because I have windows to the south.
    Here I see that BTS Orange is in the vicinity of Wałbrzyska, even two or more, which is why the Internet works best for me, as the modem is literally hanging on the window facing to the left, because the station is visible at a considerable angle to the left. 800,1800,2100,2600. It is visible a bit by convention, but it works best from the surrounding area. Unless something else turns out after new tests. But it has been so so far. I say right away that it is not possible to mount the antenna on the roof, one is with 25 m of cable, two that it is not allowed. It will not work in the other direction either, because to the west it will not do anything because there is a block of flats in Blacharska, and to the east it will not be possible because the neighbors do not guess. I only have the South to use and the South East.

    Seeking the Best LTE Modem/Router Upgrade for Huawei E3372: Stability and Performance




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  • #4 18849910
    matek451
    Level 43  
    And what keeps you so in this Orange that you do not want to register even cards in Play, 100GB for PLN 3-5 on a pre-paid, you will not get Orange cards, you can register such cards and use packages as much as you want, what is the offer? with Orange, you need to do a test on the ORANGE card as I wrote on the phone and the same in Play, you show screenshots from NetMonster and speedtests. You will see if you are logging in to BTS NW on Kmicica and Play on Wałbrzyska 11. E3372 to play with children / grandchildren.
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  • #5 18850094
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    No, nothing keeps me in Orange, it's a prepaid card. I do not like contracts, sometimes I will go away for a long time, etc., and you had to pay. But it doesn't matter. If I wanted to have a permanent and cheap one, I would take Multimedia 150Mb for PLN 29 / month. But I am interested in the lack of obligations. I used to want a card from some virtual operator for PLN 10 / month, I had calls / sms to the pain, internet probably 30GB but I don't remember exactly, plus some internet packages where another 30GB would probably cost little as far as I remember, so I could also have a mobile one. But I don't remember who it was from and it doesn't matter.
    As for Play, I read the offer for the 100 GB and read that it applies to new customers and the offer is one-time, which means that you can only use one card like this, i.e. get this 100 GB bonus. The second thing is that it is valid for a month from the activation of the package that can be launched within a month from the activation of the card. Therefore, the attraction is that you can run several such cards at different times and fire the package up to 30 days after registration, this is a solution for two months, let's say from today. As long as you say you can fire them as much as you want. But I read something else and I don't know what it is like.

    So what kind of USB modems are modern, new models? My guess is that the E3372 is an old model since I have had it for several years.
  • #6 18850175
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Renewal cards bought for PLN 3-5 can be registered and activated painfully, and then on for 30 days on each 100GB, and after 30 days, registration of more and new fun, I have already used a few myself, and my family and friends have already received as a gift . And so, until 30/09, when I activate the 100GB for a dozen for the last time, bought wholesale for PLN 3 on Allegro, registration and management by Play24, and 100GB enabled in the P24 application on the phone. So, ride your soul and at night, between 0-9, NbL service on InK50, i.e. TB of data downloaded for PLN 8 per month. Of course, modern equipment and not E3372, USB modems have been a relic for a long time, there are no newer ones because no one is working on them anymore, they are a thing of the past. And in Orange you can still have 50GB for 3 weeks, but guests are selling starters for as little as PLN 13 /, I still have supplies of those bought for PLN 5 apiece, temporarily waiting anyway, because Play is much cheaper.
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  • #7 18850357
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    if USB modems are indeed a thing of the past, what replaced them? I am interested in portable equipment only as USB, how else? Alternatively, a portable router connected to a laptop with a network cable, but then you have to provide it with power and I like it less and less. The stationary USB modem worked, I thought about the B535 stationary router because I was hoping it would be much better. But if you say no, what router, if stationary with LTE, or possibly a cheaper option, is still an LTE modem and a router in which this modem can be inserted. And then the question arises, what routers are good for this location so that they use 4 bands, if I understand correctly, and what LTE USB modems to take into account.

    Well, that's the problem, this promotion in Play ends on August 31, after registering the starter, you have 30 days to run these 100GB, with only 100GB in the application and only 50GB with the code. What application are we talking about, after the hell they made a difference in the method of activation, it's the same.
    So only Renew as a starter type works with the 100GB? NbL on InK50 tells me nothing ...

    Which starters give 50GB in Orange for 3 weeks?
  • #8 18850411
    matek451
    Level 43  
    USB modems and modem + USB router solutions that support it have been replaced by stationary routers with a built-in LTE modem, with LAN and WiFi ports, or by MiFi LTE mobile routers connected to a computer via USB or WiFi. The minimum is devices with a 6 KAT LTE modem and aggregation of 2 LTE bands such as stationary B535 or MiFi E5785, MF971. But even better are those with 9/12 or 19 cat. And aggregation of 4 LTE bands. The best category 19 router with 4 CC CA is B818, for this there is already equipment with 5G / LTE, Huawei 5G PRO2 ZTE MC801W. And these are just examples, because there are also other models and external CPE LTE or 5G access points. The E3372 modem has nothing to do with today's LTE / 5g network requirements of Polish operators.
    Play promotion until 30/09 and then the last time the 30-day 100GB packages are activated on new starters, of course, 100GB for summer also works on each of them, i.e. a package for example on YT. Activation is made in the Play24 mobile application on the phone for a given number, which after registration is added to your Play24 account, the account is operated by this mobile application or a computer version. This is a basic matter for every Play user, Play24 is used to manage cards and services on them.
    Orange starters https://allegro.pl/listing?string=orange%2050...dict45-pho-1-5-0722&price_from=12&price_to=15
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  • #9 18850860
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    ok, what about budget something? Because a router for 8 cents does not make sense to me as I can have enough for 2.5 years from cable. In addition, the cost of recharging is probably 4 years of internet from cable, including router + recharging. For this, maybe the antenna because it will be bad with my location, it's 5 years of cable net. And I will not be able to make a profit in my bills, because if this equipment lasts 5 years, it would be a success. now the electronics are two years as long as the warranty.
    It's also a bit like someone persuading me to buy a Jaguar with a 5.7 liter engine for half a million zlotys because to drive 50km / h in the city because Fiat is not enough for a modest 20,000 zlotys ... I'm not looking for a 1Gb or 600Mb net even, but it's fast enough as much as possible using cheap equipment.
    I like USB modems because they are cheap, because they do not need external power supply and I can take the modem with me. If they really can't do it nowadays, then I have no idea. It's kind of paranoid, there's nothing good, inexpensive, portable, without plugging into an outlet? Portable routers are a joke for me, a battery for a few hours, I do not know if the powerbank charges it or allows it to work, but if you want to use a mobile router stationary, the battery will probably hit the battery as it will be constantly connected to charging, without a battery, I do not know if it can be used it's just like with laptops. People often use them at home with the battery removed and permanently connected to the charger.
    nothing really makes sense?
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  • #10 18853212
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    I was interested in this B535 as a novelty and I must honestly admit that 100 sending interested me, because 300 incoming has a lot of routers. But if it drops out because it does not work on four, what now? Overall what now? I don't have the strength to use this E3131 anymore, what do you advise?
  • #11 18853250
    matek451
    Level 43  
    This is not a novelty, but a successor to B525 and aggregates LTE2600 + 1800 and LTE2100 + 1800 and UL 7 cat, i.e. aggregation of 2 bands on it, no matter because Polish operators do not aggregate LTE bands on UL. Of course, as a budget solution, it can be LTE2600 + 1800/2100 aggregation should work much better than what you have now, you can buy it for around PLN 300.
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  • #12 18853651
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    Which routers else to consider? Maybe there are some models that can handle 4 bands at the same time and this will translate into transfer? They do not have to be the latest models, as long as they are good and functional in terms of my location.


    And what is worth mentioning about mobile routers? The ones that will have good performance, a long-lasting battery, the ability to connect a computer with a network cable, not wi-fi?
    What does it look like when it comes to the possibility of using it at home in the sense of a battery, continuous charging will take it, and you can use it with the battery removed only on the power supply? Will not hit the router?


    and finally, is there any good parameters and a cheap router in which to insert an E3372 modem and it will work well? Because still with this solution there is a problem of range / antennas, etc., although the range shown in the connection manager is at the maximum in the graphic sense, i.e. 5 lines, I do not know how it is measured with parameters. But I am thinking about such a solution only because it should not be expensive and it gives the possibility of using this tandem stationary and mobile for trips without the need to stay within the reach of an electrical outlet.
  • #13 18853671
    matek451
    Level 43  
    I use the MF980 set myself, it's a mobile MiFi with aggregation of 3 LTE bands, it is plugged into USB3 to Xiaomi 3G on an alternative Padavan software, everything works OK. You can also use E5785, MF971 and some router with USB with soft changed to OpenWRT
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  • #14 18858879
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    Can all these models of mobile routers be connected with a USB cable and have the Internet this way, not via wi-fi? Huawei I can see that it has a removable battery, do the ZTEs also have it? Can you use these devices with the battery removed from the power supply via USB?

    The router that can be used for this is, for example, Edimax LT-6408n? And the question - why a stationary router that is connected to a mobile router? Router into router sounds weird. MF971 is much cheaper than the others, it also has 300/50, what's the point?
  • #15 18858923
    matek451
    Level 43  
    No LTE USB modems with LTE band aggregation, so it is used as a MiFi mobile modem and connects via USB to the router, we get a LAN switch and advanced network settings on the router, minus the double NAT. MiFi can also be connected via USB to a computer, MF971 has a permanent battery. This Edimax is electro-waste, it is not even suitable for an LTE modem.
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  • #16 18865253
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    ok, and where can i find the current list of mobile and stationary routers with aggregation? You can get crazy, there is nothing about it in the descriptions in the stores.
  • #17 18865456
    matek451
    Level 43  
    What do you need the inventory for? And in stores they have no idea what they are selling, just like in the operator's showrooms. Knowledge about it comes from people in forums who know it.
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  • #18 18866355
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    Maybe it is here in Elektroda?

    And is it worth pushing the B535 without band aggregation, since the B525 has it? But does it work, that is the question. Because the information on the net was different.
    And with the mobile Huawei E5783 it would be ok (I don't know how it differs from the E5785)? E5783 is probably the 6th category, but it has 300 downloads and 100 uploads, I should probably want 100 uploads because, for example, if you want to send a game stream to your friends, the more equipment you can, the better. I think right?
    That's why Huawei has a removable battery and I would try to use the router stationary with the battery removed, for trips to use with the battery.

    Take I don't know what would be best for my location.
  • #19 18866534
    matek451
    Level 43  
    B535 is a router with 7 LTE category, i.e. it aggregates 2 LTE bands on DL and UL, hence UL100Mb / s, but not useful in Poland because operators do not aggregate bands on UL. B535 aggregates LTE2600 with LTE2100 and LTE2100 with LTE1800 which B525 does not support. The E5783 is the MiFI equivalent of the B535, but has no external antenna connectors.
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  • #20 18867143
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    Now the question is, what is the difference between the B535 and the mobile E5785? In practice, which is better will work better. In addition, there are apparently two types of E5785, an older one I see from Plus and a newer one that differs from Play's E5785Lh-22c ... how can the same models be different?
  • #22 18867201
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    So, in short, mobile ones fall off? B535 better much? Because my guess is that this E5785 will work like I used the E3372?
  • #23 18868194
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    I was able to borrow the E5785 lh-22c router for a while. I inserted the card, connected the router with a USB cable to the computer. So quickly I did the test at www.speedtest.pl as probably the only certified one, as they say, the results surprised me a bit because I thought they would be similar to E3372.
    Well, no, below is the effect of the tests:
    E3372 -
    DL 13.56Mb / s
    UL 28.32 Mbps
    ping 16 ms

    E5785
    DL 37.11 Mb / s
    UL 26.77 Mbps
    ping 27 ms

    time interval between tests a few minutes needed to change the card, etc.
    test on the Orange network. I wonder where this ping comes from in the case of E5785, what can affect it? An additional antenna will improve the results? The range shown graphically on the display is full - 5 bars.
    The second thing that surprises me is the result of E3372, UL should be lower than DL and as far as I remember, this result indicates a problem.
    I will repeat the tests when I run the 100GB package in the new card I bought as a new customer and I should get 100GB in PLAY. I launched Play24 on my computer, but I do not see such a package, is PLAY, as it used to be with another offer of this type, flew into balls?

    And now I am bothered by one thing, will the B535 improve the situation?
  • #24 18868215
    matek451
    Level 43  
    The 100GB package starts in the Play24 mobile version on the phone, of course after adding this card to Play24. As for the tests, you need to check what band the E3372 uses, the same as the E5785, this aggregates 2 bands, hence the better DL. e3372 connects on one band and it is overloaded. Managing bands on the E3372 if it's HiLink using https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1K1-S4ygFsS9GNdXmcEy4dQ9smsP8ksL4, same you force bands on the E5785, that's the basic thing with Huawei's HiLINK.
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  • #25 18868808
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    I downloaded this app, it won't install. And the E3372 is not HiLink.


    I did the test again on the same page now, the earlier one around noon, now it's 6:15 pm, hmm ... and PLAY was supposed to be much better by default. And now I don't know what could be causing it. I'll check around 9pm more, but that probably won't change anything.

    Here are the test results at www.speedtest.pl

    Orange
    DL 27.09 Mb / s
    UL 27.13 Mbps
    ping 24 ms

    PLAY
    DL 14.29 Mb / s
    UL 19.70 Mbps
    ping 25 ms
  • #27 18878709
    jarek7714
    Level 27  
    suchejro wrote:
    Hello, after a few years I have a Huawei E3372 modem. It was permanently connected to the pc because it is the basic internet equipment at home. Now it begins to rain, probably because it has a hiccup every few seconds, while observing, for example, ping while playing, I see that it jumps upwards in red and from around a stable 60 it jumps on 400 or even much more because tens of thousands of pings such as 21000 or 40000. It's such a half-second long jumps, goes back to 60 and in a few seconds the same thing. Overall, this leads to 100% lost and no further play is involved.
    The modem did not fail, Orange simply started to combine with the network settings (the LTE / USB modem line is indestructible / emergency equipment, unlike the current LTE-A "toys").
    suchejro wrote:

    And now my dilemma, I will buy the same modem, i.e. E3372, or a newer one, but I do not know which ones are newer because it is difficult to find out by the symbols, but mine, since it is a few years old, probably already has a few newer ones. Which will be the best?

    The second option is a router or wireless because it happens that I take my laptop and modem for a trip, then I could have a laptop with a modem mobile, I also have a tablet with a SIM slot, so it's not necessary, but it's always more convenient with a laptop than a tablet, although the size and the weight speaks for the tablet. But that's my problem and it's not up for discussion. I usually use a tablet outside and a laptop when I travel further.
    Or a stationary router, e.g. HUAWEI B535 because it is probably modern, fast and cheap, or a modem connection such as E3372 and a stationary router - then I have a stationary modem + router and the modem itself for trips.
    In your case, when you do not use an external antenna, any modem-router will be better than a USB / LTE modem. With the new B618, B818 is a question of the offer and budget for this purpose.
    suchejro wrote:
    if USB modems are indeed a thing of the past, what replaced them? I am interested in portable equipment only as USB, how else? Alternatively, a portable router connected to a laptop with a network cable, but then you have to provide it with power and I like it less and less. The stationary USB modem worked, I thought about the B535 stationary router because I was hoping it would be much better. But if you say no, what router if stationary with LTE, or possibly a cheaper option, still an LTE modem and a router in which you can insert this modem seems to me. And then the question arises, what routers are good for this location so that they use 4 bands, if I understand correctly, and what LTE USB modems to take into account.
    Nothing has gone out of date - where the network works well and in most cases it works well, there are no full no-limit offers, they will be able to work if the hardware allows another 10 years - manufacturers release new products and "free"lancers tell customers that they need them and create tons of unnecessary electro-waste ("what do you need a 4CA modem that is able to download 100GB in an hour and this offer is with such a limit for the whole month"), with new contracts, adding old ones in subscriptions it is worth buying this "fuse" (and in the subscription, the operator often adds for free, for example, unlimited nights). From the portable MiFi, the ZTE MF980 / 971 is very bad (ZTE is trying more - adapting more useful firmware from Huawei).
  • #28 18878760
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Sure, in Warsaw, where the NetWorks network works in the aggregation of 3/4 LTE bands, the best choice for the next 10 years is the indestructible E3372, I think I will buy 2 for spare myself.
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  • #29 18911019
    suchejro
    Level 15  
    ok, and apart from these equipment for PLN 1000, which LTE routers have aggregation for 2-4 bands from the cheaper ones?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around upgrading from the Huawei E3372 modem due to performance issues, particularly high ping and instability during internet use. Users share experiences with various LTE modems and routers, highlighting the limitations of the E3372 compared to newer models. Recommendations include considering stationary routers like the Huawei B535, B618, and B818, which support LTE band aggregation for improved performance. Mobile routers such as the Huawei E5785 are also discussed, with emphasis on their capabilities and battery options. Users express concerns about budget constraints and the practicality of using older devices or mobile routers for home internet. The conversation emphasizes the importance of LTE band aggregation and the need for modern equipment to meet current network demands.
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