Huawei 5G CPE Pro 2: HiLink Mesh, 802.11s Update & Compatible Devices - Your Questions Answered

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Hi, recently I am a happy (?) owner of the Huawei 5G CPE Pro 2 modem and I have a few questions about HiLink Mesh. 1. According to the page below, my ...

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

@Vexator Mesh is nothing more than marketing gibberish about a wifi network amplifier - the amplifiers stopped selling (and rightly so), the marketing department reinvented the wheel. https://fritzbox.com.pl/Czym-jest-technologia-mesh-w-routerach-WiFi-Wyjasniamy-blog-pol-1560932196.html https://www.komputronik.pl/informacje/co-to-jest-system-mesh-jak-dziala/ These are just a few links, as you can see the option is heavily pushed. The only right way: it's a local AP, wired to the root router.

Vexator · Answer

well not really. TP-Link, for example, has devices that communicate with each other (and with the router) over a cable, so you have full transfer and you don't have to manually switch. The signal amplifier does not offer this it depends what we want to get. If I move from one place in my home where I connected to SSID1 to another where the signal is very weak but there is, I have to manually switch to SSID2. I would like to avoid this even at the cost of worse transfers from the second AP. For me, the only right way is mesh. The question is how to create it. ps @ KOCUREK1970 even if you rightly say it does not answer my questions

Anonymous · Answer

In the update log ("changelog"), the introduction of the MESH connection option should be specified. Yes. 802.11s stands for the specification for MESH connectivity. Browse through the offer of Huawei devices that support MESH. And this is how to combine them -> https://consumer.huawei.com/eg-en/support/content/en-us11307414/ That's what marketing departments are for ... ;) But saying that MESH is the equivalent of a wifi repeater is too simplistic. While the amplifier is usually a really simple device working on one channel with the router, the MESH is already a router working on two frequencies with the mother router and with each other. So, in general, when it comes to connectivity, wifi has an advantage over simple amplifiers with disadvantages. But I agree that for home it is often a significant excess of form over content, and nevertheless possible reduction in the reliability of connections, if AP can be installed. If AP cannot be installed, I believe it can be considered. It's just that MESH is actually created as a new market niche and there will be no turning back ...

matek451 · Answer

For Huawei and its mesh, only its production equipment, i.e. https://consumer.huawei.com/pl/routers/q2-pro-3pack/, if 5G Pro2 gets this mesh update, he will be the main one and these 3 will probably be satellites, if does not work with HIlink MESH TO, one router from the set works as the main one and the other two as satellites, the main one is connected with a 5G Pro2 cable and it creates a mesh network and 5G PRO2 is used for a 5G / LTE modem. Where are you using 5G Play, what are your aggregation results with LTE?

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

He replies - buy a decent AP Ubi AC LR, or AC PRO than you go to such crap. The amount is even 3 Ubi lower and it beats this whole MESH set on the head.

Vexator · Answer

Do you know where to find one? I can't find anything in the huawei.com domain. I have the firmware version 10.0.5.1 (H612SP1C983) and the router does not see any updates, and the pages I do not trust are version .19 And there is such? Apart from https://consumer.huawei.com/en/routers/wifi-mesh/ I can't find anything, not even my router but I don't need 3, only 1 a bit north of Warsaw. The modem only shows me 4G, and BOK says that I should be within the 5G range, so I will continue to investigate

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

@Vexator Can I see the product description correctly in one of the links ?: "General recommendations for using the HUAWEI Q2 Pro Home Wi-Fi Mesh System: - It is recommended to connect the routers directly to the wall socket, bypassing extension cords / power strips - It is recommended that you do not connect your base router to an outlet with any other high power consumption device to avoid interference - The entire system must be connected to the same electrical installation within the house (one energy meter) - The device may not work properly with the three-phase electrical system. So it's an ordinary PLC Wifi, for the fake called MESH.

matek451 · Answer

What BOK Play says does not interest me because they are dilettantes, they do not have any knowledge about this 5G shell on the DSS2100 and its range, for today it is a marketing linden that you have caught, unfortunately, but Pro2 does not have external antenna connectors, a bit no localization. And as for the mesh, the Huawei AX3 Pro and more at http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=52141&start=2235 and ask @atento, he has B818 and this AX3Pro, maybe someone has it with 5G Pro2.

Vexator · Answer

correct. Even here: https://consumer.huawei.com/pl/routers/q2-pro-3pack/ they write "Wi-Fi Mesh HUAWEI Q2 Pro system equipped with a gigabit chipset with technology PLC Turbo "

Anonymous · Answer

There is a page on how to update these routers, but I can't find it right now. Generally, when you enter the update menu, the router searches for updates and suggests the latest update first. BEFORE When the update starts, you can read the description of what changes the update introduces - "Changelog" is called this field. You can also search for previous updates. Irrelevant with MESH. But MESH 1 + 1 is a redundant solution for my home, unless you insist on full roaming or there is no way to pull the twisted pair. Better router plus AP connected by cable. Another issue is that Huawei MESH devices can also be connected with a cable, just like a regular AP. Then - yes, it's good to have everything from one manufacturer. Well, probably some mistake, because: I mean, it is cleverly made that MESH can work both over wifi and over a cable (twisted pair). You can drop a link to your description. because who knows them ...?

Vexator · Answer

I am aware that this is not 5G, but by signing a contract for 2 years, I assume that I will wait before its end forgive me for not disclosing where I live in public. Added after 4 [minutes]: Kocurek writes about a device other than you Added after 8 [minutes]: I have 2 levels at home. There is a router on the first floor and the WiFi range covers the first floor and part of the ground floor. I have twisted-pair cables, so I could put a second router on the ground floor, but as I wrote earlier, if I move from the first floor to the ground floor and be on the edge of the range of the first network, the cell will not switch to the second network by itself. And that's what I care about. I don't know if there is any android software that would switch between networks by itself, but even if it did, it would have to run in the background constantly checking the signal strength, and this will not be irrelevant to the battery life. In Mesh, it is the APs that decide where the traffic goes.

matek451 · Answer

You made a mistake by taking PRO2, for today the closest BTSs with this DSS2100 shell pretending to be 5G are in Legionowo on Siwińskiego or on Aluzyjna in Warsaw, the map is purely virtual and you have no chance of coverage in 5G 2100MHz without an external antenna, real 5G, i.e. in the 3.5GHz band is a song of the future. So far, even the auction for this band has been canceled and there is no new one yet, if it goes well, it will reach you in 2 years. For today, the nearest Play station on Kolejowa 245 does not even have a 5G2100 permit, it is possible that it will be launched there one day because it is a fiber optic station, but today it is not even shown as 5GR. The nearest permission for 5G2100 is Palmiry, but the station does not exist, of course it probably is in plans. You have about 1 km to the one on Kolejowa Street, so the basic question is how does the LTE band aggregation on PRO2 work from it and, above all, what are the signal parameters inside it on LTE2600 / lte2100 / LTE1800? For the future, do not listen to the consultants at Play, their knowledge is zero.

Vexator · Answer

I didn't really have a choice. With a demand for 500 GB / month with a minimum of 20 Mb / s, I had only one operator with one tariff. Could you suggest how to check it? Preferably some android app. huaCtrl?

matek451 · Answer

But you had the option to choose B818 in Play and this one has external antenna connectors, the parameters inside the house on LTE2600 are key, so check HuaCTRL or on Windows https://www.ltehmonitor.com/en/

Vexator · Answer

unfortunately not. even now this is not possible: https://www.play.pl/dlafirm/sklep/routery-dla-firm/?oid=4012575129 now there is an additional "UZZ" which was not there before, but still not B818 Added after 13 [minutes]: what exactly should i do to check what you wrote about?

matek451 · Answer

But this is not the only sales channel of Play, B818 is in showrooms and in the proprietary offer with an additional payment for 24 months and not in installments for 36 months, the same is the case with PRO2, i.e. installments for 36 months or in a subscription from once owned.

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Aggregation of LTE bands with LTE2600 as the baseband but signal parameters at 2600MHz only sufficient, what speed tests look like in such conditions, especially in the evening ones, see also what it looks like with Pro2 outside the window, i.e. signal parameters at 2600MHz and speed. And the selection of bands in the Configuration tab. With these signal parameters on the basic LTE2600, you can see that the external antenna would definitely improve them to optimal values, but this is already fun at a different level, i.e. pulling the antenna connectors outside and if it is a router bought in installments, it remains the property of the operator.