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Is Orange's Huawei B535 Router Unlocked or Simlocked? Buying Advice Needed

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  • #1 18961921
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    Do Orange routers have Simlock? I want to buy a new Huawei B535 router, but the seller who took it 2 months ago in installments has no idea if it has a blockade. I called the hotline but they didn't answer me. Please help.
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  • #2 18961934
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    chris18404 wrote:
    Do Orange routers have Simlock?

    https://nasz.orange.pl/t5/Phones-and-tablets/...urz%C4%85czeniach-kupowane-w-orange/td-p/1356
    https://www.orange.pl/omnibook/zdjecie-blokady-sim-lock#
    1st paragraph:
    "In telephones and other devices which Orange has been ordering from manufacturers since October 2015, are no longer SIM-locked.
    It may also happen that a device ordered by Orange before October 2015 will be available on the market, which will have a SIM-lock.
  • #3 18961949
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    chris18404 wrote:
    Do Orange routers have Simlock?

    https://nasz.orange.pl/t5/Phones-and-tablets/...urz%C4%85czeniach-kupowane-w-orange/td-p/1356
    https://www.orange.pl/omnibook/zdjecie-blokady-sim-lock#
    1st paragraph:
    "In telephones and other devices which Orange has been ordering from manufacturers since October 2015, are no longer SIM-locked.
    It may also happen that a device ordered by Orange before October 2015 will be available on the market, which will have a SIM-lock.


    Is there any way to check this in papers?
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  • #5 18961972
    chris18404
    Level 19  
  • #6 18961979
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @chris18404
    You ask for a scan of an invoice or a receipt - both have the date of sale.
    Just be careful, because there are crooks who try to liquidate equipment taken in installments, equipment that is owned by the operator - check before buying exactly when it was bought, where it was bought, how it was bought (cash, installments).
    Make sure that the equipment is not already blocked, because the delinquent took it in installments and does not pay it back, etc

    chris18404 wrote:
    Is this blocking possible?

    Before the equipment is 100% paid off, the operator still owns it - so what do you think they'll do?
  • #7 18961988
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    @chris18404
    You ask for a scan of an invoice or a receipt - both have the date of sale.
    Just be careful, because there are crooks who try to liquidate equipment taken in installments, equipment that is owned by the operator - check before buying exactly when it was bought, where it was bought, how it was bought (cash, installments).
    Make sure that the equipment is not already blocked, because the delinquent took it in installments and does not pay it back, etc

    chris18404 wrote:
    Is this blocking possible?

    Before the equipment is 100% paid off, the operator still owns it - so what do you think they'll do?


    It is taken in installments 2 months ago. How to check if it is blocked? Is this information available over the phone?
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  • #8 18962015
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    chris18404 wrote:
    It is taken in installments 2 months ago.

    How can he sell something that is not 100% owned by the seller?
    It's theft and you'll be the fence.
    chris18404 wrote:
    How to check if it is blocked? Is this information available over the phone?

    You will not check anywhere because GDPR and the hotline will not provide information because you are not the buyer.
    Anyway, even if you have the buyer's data, if you ask there "good morning, my name ..., remind me how many installments I still have to pay for this" - after all, such a question smells like a roller for a kilometer.

    I advise against this / such a purchase, I advise against all pawnshops.
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  • #9 18962021
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    chris18404 wrote:
    It is taken in installments 2 months ago.

    How can he sell something that is not 100% owned by the seller?
    It's theft and you'll be the fence.
    chris18404 wrote:
    How to check if it is blocked? Is this information available over the phone?

    You will not check anywhere because GDPR and the hotline will not provide information because you are not the buyer.
    Anyway, even if you have the buyer's data, if you ask there "good morning, my name ..., remind me how many installments I still have to pay for this" - after all, such a question smells like a roller for a kilometer.

    I advise against this / such a purchase, I advise against all pawnshops.



    The guest said that he does not need it because he has fiber and the council has to pay because he has a subscription.
  • #10 18962039
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    chris18404 wrote:
    The guest said that he does not need it because he has fiber and the council has to pay because he has a subscription.

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    How can he sell something that is not 100% owned by the seller?
    It's theft and you'll be the fence.
  • #11 18962150
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #12 18962163
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    _cheetah_ wrote:
    In fact, the subscription for the service and the installments for the router are two different issues. But, without knowing the provisions of the seller's contract with nc+ or digit+, it is actually impossible to say whose property this router is currently. Normally, ownership of the goods passes from the seller to the buyer upon delivery of the goods, but it is to be expected that nc+ or digit+ have made reservations of title in the router sale agreement and it may be the property of nc+ or digit+ to pay in full.



    That is, the seller said that he would repay these installments 100%
  • #13 18962210
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #14 18962249
    matek451
    Level 43  
    And for how much is he offering you this B535? In the Orange subscription, he will pay in installments 24x16 = PLN 384 so if he wants below this price, you can do another life deal like with this MR6400 so I will do you a favor and give you a link https://www.play.pl/telefony/huawei/huawei-b535 -uzz/?oid=4010131699&ogrp=internet is equipment from the Play outlet, new but after customer return, with a one-year warranty or the same new one for PLN 399 without subscription https://www.play.pl/telefony/huawei/huawei- b535/?oid=4010131729&ogrp=internet , the choice is yours,
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  • #15 18962278
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    _cheetah_ wrote:
    Well, if you believe him 100%, then there's nothing for us...

    Meaning "I'll see you in court" :D

    Exactly as my friend writes @mother451 giving the example of Play - here there is no doubt who will own the goods, what he gets in return if he buys, whether he has any consumer rights or not, whether he has the right to complain about defective goods or not.
  • #16 18963492
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    matek451 wrote:
    And for how much is he offering you this B535? In the Orange subscription, he will pay in installments 24x16 = PLN 384 so if he wants below this price, you can do another business of life like with this MR6400 so I will do you a favor and give you a link https://www.play.pl/telefony/huawei/huawei-b535 -uzz/?oid=4010131699&ogrp=internet is equipment from the Play outlet, new but after customer return, with a one-year warranty or the same new one for PLN 399 without subscription https://www.play.pl/telefony/huawei/huawei- b535/?oid=4010131729&ogrp=internet , the choice is yours,


    I did not do badly on the MR6400, there is still a bottle left, the guest wants PLN 200 for it.
  • #17 18963512
    matek451
    Level 43  
    He pays in installments 24x16 = PLN 384 for selling for PLN 200, it does not hold together, simlock is easy to check by inserting a card from another operator, but whether he will pay these installments for him is a mystery and according to https://orange.binaries.pl /bw//20155/0/59910/75eb01ec-0182-4141-9133-8cc35857ef8e pt5. you will become a trader by buying a device from someone who does not own it and that should end the discussion. But if he wants to sell it to you for PLN 200, let him immediately pay Orange PLN 384 as repayment of 24 installments for it, then the device will become his property and he can do whatever he wants with it.
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  • #18 18963656
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    matek451 wrote:
    He pays in installments 24x16 = PLN 384 for selling for PLN 200, it does not hold together, simlock is easy to check by inserting a card from another operator, but whether he will pay these installments for him is a mystery and according to https://orange.binaries.pl /bw//20155/0/59910/75eb01ec-0182-4141-9133-8cc35857ef8e pt5. you will become a trader by buying a device from someone who does not own it and that should end the discussion. But if he wants to sell it to you for PLN 200, let him immediately pay Orange PLN 384 as repayment of 24 installments for it, then the device will become his property and he can do whatever he wants with it.


    Okay, I won't risk it, I'm letting go of this router in installments, but I noticed that a lot of offers on olx with these routers are in installments, people don't even write it in the description.

    I have one more question, if the router is taken from the operator (e.g. Play, T-mobile) but paid in full, can I buy it without any problems?
  • #19 18963708
    matek451
    Level 43  
    In Play, until September 20, the equipment was included in the subscription and immediately became the property of the customer, after this date there are two variants, the first one as before, i.e. PLN 10 for the subscription plus PLN 9 for the start, and the second is 36 installments of PLN 5 and PLN 69 to start. In this case, you should ask the seller about the date of conclusion of the contract, those before September 20 are certain, later ones depend on how much the subscription is, if 45/55/75 PLN/month it is equipment in installments, if 50/60/80 PLN then the equipment is for ownership with a surcharge to the subscription. In Plus, Orange is in installments and in T-mobile offers home Internet 100/200/300GB from October 10, 2019, the equipment is also included in the subscription.
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  • #20 18963716
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    matek451 wrote:
    In Play, until September 20, the equipment was included in the subscription and immediately became the property of the customer, after this date there are two variants, the first one as before, i.e. PLN 10 for the subscription plus PLN 9 for the start, and the second is 36 installments of PLN 5 and PLN 69 to start. In this case, you should ask the seller about the date of concluding the contract, those before 20.09 are certain, later ones depend on the subscription fee, if 45/55/75 PLN/month it is equipment in installments, if 50/60/80 PLN then the equipment is for ownership with a surcharge to the subscription. In Plus, Orange is in installments and in T-mobile offers home Internet 100/200/300GB from October 10, 2019, the equipment is also included in the subscription.


    So as it is included in the subscription, you can take it without fear, right?
  • #21 18963719
    matek451
    Level 43  
    In Play until August 20, 2020, they are certain and then those as described above, i.e. included in the subscription with an additional PLN 10. Only often those who sell them do not even know what they signed.
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  • #22 18964290
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    chris18404 wrote:
    I have one more question, if the router is taken from the operator (e.g. Play, T-mobile) but paid in full, can I buy it without any problems?

    Do you want to take risks again?
    Dzizas, go to the store, get it yourself in installments, you will pay a fraction more or maybe not even and you can be sure that no one will blow you away. Look for Komputronik, X Kom or Apricots, remote installments also give and it is much safer than cunning on advertising portals. And for a billion% there is neither a SIM-lock nor an operator brand, which means that neither the software nor the hardware has anything cut out.
  • #23 18964505
    matek451
    Level 43  
    He has already received a link to Play where B535 from the outlet costs PLN 339, and PLN 399 new, of course they are without a brand and without a simlock.
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  • #24 18964538
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @mother451
    I know, I know, I've seen it, so I don't understand that you still want to push yourself into unreliable equipment.
  • #25 18964586
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    @mother451
    I know, I know, I've seen it, so I don't understand that you still want to push yourself into unreliable equipment.


    Because I don't want to pay more if there is an option to buy cheaper. That's why I write on the forum how it looks in different variants.

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    And if the router was taken in March in the T-Mobile subscription, the router was paid PLN 59 once, and each month the fee was PLN 49 for the Internet subscription. Now (October) the offer has been changed to optical fiber with the same operator. Can such equipment be purchased without hesitation?
  • #26 18964655
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    chris18404 wrote:
    Because I don't want to pay more if there is an option to buy cheaper. That's why I write on the forum how it looks in different variants.

    But I totally agree with you, it's your money and your problems.
    You have been given variants - you have a certain Play variant and a certain store variant.
    chris18404 wrote:
    And if the router was taken in March in the T-Mobile subscription, the router was paid PLN 59 once, and each month the fee was PLN 49 for the Internet subscription. Now (October) the offer has been changed to optical fiber with the same operator. Can such equipment be purchased without hesitation?

    And you still your...
    What do you expect that someone will take responsibility by telling you to take and then there will be problems and you will accuse such a person because they gave you bad advice?
    You have offers, you have regulations, you have everything under your nose: call, read, count and make your own decisions.

    For me and I hope that for other advisers, the topic is exhausted.
    Someone wants to take responsibility for the Author's potential shopping face, go ahead, I'm getting off.
  • #27 18964753
    Interesant
    Level 33  
    ...
    chris18404 wrote:
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    @mother451
    I know, I know, I've seen it, so I don't understand that you still want to push yourself into unreliable equipment.


    Because I don't want to pay more if there is an option to buy cheaper. That's why I write on the forum how it looks in different variants.

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    And if the router was taken in March in the T-Mobile subscription, the router was paid PLN 59 once, and each month the fee was PLN 49 for the Internet subscription. Now (October) the offer has been changed to optical fiber with the same operator. Is it possible to buy such equipment without hesitation?

    Remember that "clever pays twice", so that later there will be no "Wise Pole after the damage", and PLN 60 is not a fortune, tax stamps and a parrot will be much more expensive...
  • #28 18965741
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    matek451 wrote:
    In Play, until September 20, the equipment was included in the subscription and immediately became the property of the customer, after this date there are two variants, the first one as before, i.e. an additional PLN 10 for the subscription plus PLN 9 for the start.


    For the last time, I am asking for an answer, in this case the equipment can be purchased without fear? The guest paid PLN 9 to start when extending the contract (he got a router) on September 30. The guest has a 100GB VIP tariff for PLN 40.
  • #30 18965787
    chris18404
    Level 19  
    matek451 wrote:
    You can buy.


    but seriously, are you writing or just to finish the topic, if this is uncertain, I finish this topic and buy it from the outlet.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the potential SIM-lock status of the Huawei B535 router purchased from Orange. Users clarify that devices ordered from Orange since October 2015 are generally not SIM-locked, but older devices may still have restrictions. Concerns are raised about the implications of buying a router that is still under installment payments, as the original owner may not fully own the device until all payments are made. It is advised to verify the purchase details, such as the date of sale and payment status, to avoid issues related to ownership and potential blocking by the operator. Users suggest checking the router's SIM-lock status by inserting a SIM card from a different operator and recommend purchasing from reputable outlets to ensure the device is fully owned and free of locks.
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