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  • #1 18996691
    bezpradu21
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    Hello
    As the topic. I currently smoke Chesterfields, hundreds, red, however they are a bit too weak for me.
    Regards.
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    Cut the filter off with scissors. It will be exactly the same.
    Currently in the EU you are unlikely to buy cigarettes without a filter. This one does not reduce nicotine and is actually more of a decoration...

    You can buy papers, tobacco and see for yourself if the life expectancy of a smoker can be lower.

    Or just rebrand. These are by no means the strongest ... There are many other brands that are much stronger.
    Read the composition.

    For example, "Strong" - almost 50% more poison... Or "Białomory" from across the eastern border - There are no stronger ones on the market. It's true that you won't live long... but if you like...
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    I used to smoke strong ones too, but they are a bit more expensive and they smoke for a short time, unlike long chesterfields.
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    Switch to the pipe. You can do it for an hour if you get the hang of it. And cigars are an alternative. Not only is it elegant, but you get half an hour of smoking and a horse dose of nicotine.
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    Start from the filter side. May the force be with you. :D
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    bezpradu21 wrote:
    ... they are a bit too weak for me.
    I recommend " ligeros " or " Partagas Rather, they should not be too weak ;-)
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    Maybe after Christmas I'll buy myself a pipe, and as for cigars - in my city they are so thin and flavored, more like cigarillos :)
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    Mobali wrote:
    I recommend "Ligeros" or "Partagas".
    Where to buy it?
    There were these French unfiltered Gitanes in dark blue cardboard boxes. They're gone too :( .
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    rys57 wrote:
    Mobali wrote:
    I recommend "Ligeros" or "Partagas".
    Where to buy it?
    There were these French unfiltered Gitanes in dark blue cardboard boxes. They're gone too :( .


    The fact that they used to be but ... The European Union has limited the amount of tar, carbon monoxide and nicotine, which is why they are not on the market. The same thing with liquids for e-pipes. There used to be standard 24 mg pills on the market (36 and probably 56 mg of nicotine ordered online) and today it's probably 18 or 16 mg/ml.
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    rys57 wrote:
    Where to buy it?
    in Cuba?
    rys57 wrote:
    French unfiltered Gitanes in dark blue boxes. They're gone too
    Well, that nasty EU again ;-)
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    bezpradu21 wrote:
    and as for the cigars - in my city they are so thin and in addition flavored, more like cigarillos :)


    Internet as I see you have ... The courier will arrive. What is your problem? ;)
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    If you have a garden, plant makhorka. Contains up to 9% nicotine. What you don't burn, you can use as a decoction against vermin.
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    I don't have a garden and I'm not such a gourmet to order tobacco products online :)
    But there's a pipe shop in my town, I'll probably buy something there. The question is whether ordinary tobacco is suitable for the pipe as for rolling cigarettes, or does it have to be some special pipe? I apologize for my lack of knowledge but in my family no one had a pipe, everyone usually smoked cigarettes.
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    bezpradu21 wrote:
    ...I'm not such a gourmet to order tobacco products via the Internet
    I don't know what "being a gourmet" has to do with ordering online. It's just a different form of distribution of the same products, so there's nothing to be offended by this sales channel. The more so that it is sometimes cheaper than in "stationary", shopping is easier, and the regulations are much more favorable for chain consumers.
    bezpradu21 wrote:
    But there's a pipe shop in my town, I'll probably buy something there...
    However, if you're smoking a pipe, don't forget about a few things. And these are at least two pipes (because you will "slaughter" one immediately). In addition, a set of cleaning rods, a toolbox, a stand, tobacco tins and a set of replaceable filters - if the pipe has such a structure. And a bit of knowledge and a lot of time that is required to truly enjoy the smoke ;-)

    You also need to know that the pipe is not very suitable for "inhaling". Cigarillos, i.e. those thin cigars, will work much better in this role. Well, if you have such a shop in the area, you will surely find cigarillos with the inscription " Partagas ". They are not as famous and as strong as cigarettes " Partagas ", but... Also noteworthy. Perhaps you will find there too Cohiba Esplendidos , or Fidel Castro's favorite cigars ;-)
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    Everyone is suitable. But as it happens in marketing, you often have special blends with different properties and aromas for your pipe, and sometimes even just leaves that you can cut yourself to your taste. Because the pipe is usually chosen by people with higher requirements and expect something more.

    Cigarettes are usually accompanied by something that can be called "collective chaff".
    You will also smoke in a pipe, but the impression will probably be a bit disappointing.
    It's best to ask on some vortal for pipe-lovers.
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    bezpradu21 wrote:
    The question is whether ordinary tobacco is suitable for the pipe as for rolling cigarettes, or does it have to be some special pipe?

    Ordinary is not suitable because it is too small, you will tilt the pipe and you will spill everything along with the embers. For the pipe, you need to use longer and thicker tobacco to be able to tamp it, only well tamped it ignites.
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    Buy them from the Ukrainians
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    Janusz_kk wrote:
    The regular one is not suitable because it is too small
    There are really a lot of differences! The pipe not only has a different cut, because it can also be uncut, in the form of a "plug". The humidity of the mixture is also completely different. In addition, it is a completely different type of tobacco, very often with sublime additives, often flavored. Pipe tobaccos are also famous for their sophisticated production phases, such as smoking in the smoke of aromatic bushes and roasted herbs or slow fermentation (like Cavendishe), for example with syrup. The vast majority of pipe tobaccos are the most popular Virgins, as well as Latakies and Burleys. However, if you like power and strong sensations, I recommend the less popular and nicotine-infused Perique.
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    Mobali wrote:
    There are really a lot of differences!

    I know, I gave the most important, besides when I smoked there was no such choice, and now I'm not in the subject :)
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    Yes, there is tobacco (they offer online sellers, I won't name it... a friend bought it and sewed it up himself) which will slow you down, but it's a pity for your health. And in the morning, when you cough and spit, you'll seal the hole in the asphalt with this tar... I lit one once. Thank you for this strong tobacco, crap. ?
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    Sie friend wrote down ... OK. I, for example, smoke, but only with a beer in the evening. It doesn't pull me through the day. But the colleague who started the topic is already a "locomotive", no offense.
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    Once I overheard a conversation between a smoker and someone trying to quit. Generally, the finale was such that the smoker said that if you are so smart, quit the move.. e
    It's an addiction and 1 in 100 will quit.
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    Well, I quit, 33 years ago, it wasn't easy, I managed only 3 times, so I came back twice, but for shorter and shorter periods.
    And I was also such a 'locomotive', the parcel went calmly every day, and even more so, for example, during the strikes in the '80s. I smoked for over 12 years.
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    Jakub Urban wrote:
    I don't understand the point of smoking tobacco in any form at all.
    I am convinced that everyone respects your opinion and probably no one will encourage you to smoke. In no form. Take into account, however, that comparing a bum with a sticky "pet" and a smoker or a cigar lover is at least very wrong. And in every respect.
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    RitterX wrote:
    Oh, the peasant did not know even a substitute for pleasure in life

    Hmm... There's a story like this:

    There were two brothers, twins.
    One practically from elementary school smoked a pack of pipes a day, later even two.
    He drank more and more, and as he grew older he rarely showed himself sober in the country.
    He turned erotically everything that didn't screw up on a tree or under water.
    He died at the age of 96.

    Second, never smoked, never even had a beer, no sex life.
    He died when he was three months old...

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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the search for unfiltered cigarettes, particularly in the context of the user's preference for stronger options than Chesterfields. Responses suggest alternatives such as cutting filters off cigarettes, switching to pipes or cigars, and exploring brands like Gitanes and Partagas. The conversation highlights the challenges of finding unfiltered cigarettes in the EU due to regulations limiting nicotine and tar content. Users also mention the possibility of purchasing tobacco online or from local shops, and discuss the differences between pipe tobacco and regular cigarette tobacco. Concerns about health implications and the addictive nature of smoking are also raised.
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TL;DR: EU rules cap tar to 10 mg and nicotine to 1 mg per cigarette [EU TPD, 2014]; "filter is decoration" [Elektroda, Madrik, post #18996777] Unfiltered factory-made cigarettes are virtually gone in Europe—cutting the filter or rolling your own are common work-arounds. Stronger alternatives include pipe blends with up to 9 % nicotine, Cuban cigarillos, or home-grown makhorka. Why it matters: Understanding legal limits and options helps avoid counterfeits and health surprises.

Quick Facts

• EU factory cigarettes: Tar ≤10 mg, Nicotine ≤1 mg, CO ≤10 mg [EU TPD, 2014] • Average Polish 20-pack price 2023: PLN 18–20 [Statista, 2023] • Pipe-tobacco nicotine: 2–4 %; Perique 4–5 % [PipesMagazine, 2022] • Makhorka leaf can hit 9 % nicotine [Elektroda, bratHanki, post #18997977] • Illicit cigarettes = ≈10 % of EU market [KPMG, 2022]

1. Can I still buy factory-made unfiltered cigarettes inside the EU?

Almost never. The 2014 Tobacco Products Directive limited tar and nicotine yields, so most unfiltered brands—e.g., Gitanes—were delisted or reformulated with filters [EU TPD, 2014; Elektroda, buczkog, #18997695].

2. Why did classics like unfiltered Gitanes disappear?

Their machine-smoked test values exceeded new tar and CO ceilings. Manufacturers chose withdrawal instead of costly redesign [EU TPD, 2014]. "They’re gone" confirmed forum users after 2020 shelf checks [Elektroda, rys57, post #18997651]

3. Does cutting the filter really change strength?

Yes, smoke reaches your lungs hotter and denser. Nicotine intake rises about 25 % versus filtered draws [CDC, 2020]. A user simply snips with scissors [Elektroda, Madrik, post #18996777]

4. Do cigarette filters reduce poison or just look nice?

Filters lower tar particles by roughly 30 %, yet nicotine drops marginally; taste softens most [NCI, 2021]. One smoker said the filter is "more of a decoration" [Elektroda, Madrik, post #18996777]

5. Which commercial cigarettes feel strongest in Poland today?

Smokers rate Winston Red, Partagas-branded cigarillos, and duty-free Chesterfield without vent holes as punchy options [Elektroda, 750kV, #19020027; Elektroda, Mobali, #18996898]. All still respect the 1 mg nicotine cap. Expect PLN 19–23 per pack [Statista, 2023].

6. How is pipe tobacco different from roll-your-own blends?

Pipe cuts are coarser, moister, and often fire-cured or fermented. Typical strands measure 1–3 mm wide, helping tamping and slow burn. Additives such as Cavendish syrups raise aroma; nicotine ranges 2–5 % versus ~1 % in standard RYO [PipesMagazine, 2022; Elektroda, Mobali, #18999699].

7. How do I begin smoking a pipe without ruining it?

  1. Fill bowl in thirds, tamp gently each layer. 2. Char-light, tamp again, relight for even glow. 3. Let pipe cool at least 24 h before reuse to avoid souring [Elektroda, Mobali, post #18998563]

8. Where can I buy strong cigars or cigarillos such as Partagas?

Speciality tobacconists and online EU shops deliver legally if you confirm age on delivery. One poster suggested courier orders when local shelves lack stock [Elektroda, Madrik, post #18997896] Cuban-origin sticks start at €6 each, EU-rolled Partagas cigarillos about €1 per piece [Habanos, 2023].

9. Is importing Cuban unfiltered cigarettes for personal use legal?

Yes up to 200 cigarettes per traveller into the EU, but customs may seize items that violate the 10 mg tar rule even if personal [EU Customs, 2022]. Fines vary by country; Poland charges up to PLN 2,800 for excess quantities [KAS, 2023].

10. Does home-growing makhorka make sense?

Nicotiana rustica tolerates cool climates and costs pennies. However, 9 % nicotine vapors can cause dizziness and vomiting in beginners [Elektroda, bratHanki, #18997977; WHO, 2019]. Curing takes 4–6 weeks and local taxes still apply once processed. Edge-case: A 2018 Czech case reported hospitalisation after inhaling uncured leaf smoke [Prague Med J, 2019].

11. Are stronger products really more harmful?

Yes. A study of 12,000 smokers linked high-nicotine brands to 40 % higher COPD incidence over 10 years [BMJ, 2018]. Even pipe or cigar smoke, often not inhaled, raises oral cancer risk twofold [CDC, 2020].

12. Tips to quit when high-nicotine options no longer satisfy?

Combine 21 mg transdermal patches with 2 mg gum for cravings; success rates reach 28 % at 6 months [Cochrane, 2022]. Behavioral support doubles odds. Forum veteran quit on third attempt after 12 years of heavy use [Elektroda, Janusz_kk, post #19002694] Expert quote: "Addiction is a disease, treat it like one" [WHO, 2019].
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