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Merging energy meters in Tauron: procedures, conclusions, rules

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  • #1 19082617
    grzecho_h
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    Hello

    At home I have two meters in one cabinet, it used to be useful, but it doesn`t matter because now there are only costs. They are both on me and I would like to "merge" them. I`m currently at Tauron and the consultant, correcting himself several times, presented it more or less like this:

    "Submit an application to determine the connection conditions (WP and WP-T), conclude a connection agreement, - terminate one agreement at the receiving point from which the power is transferred based on the application to terminate the agreement - update the comprehensive agreement based on the Technical Data Sheet and submitting "application for concluding or changing the terms of a comprehensive agreement"

    Has anyone had anything similar to do? I thought it would be enough to eliminate one meter and connect it to another, and it would look like the legislative procedure for a resolution in the Sejm...
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  • #2 19082663
    jdubowski
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    What kind of pre-district security, what capacity is in the current contracts, what security and capacity after the merger?
    Because maybe you don`t have to deal with Tauron...
  • #3 19082698
    mabet
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    The easiest way is to calculate how much power you need and if it is installed on one of the meters, simply give up the other one and connect to the one that remains. You need to know the power of the devices that are throughout the house.
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    grzecho_h
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    The meter that would remain is for: 3 phases, Power 16, Protection 35A
    The second one: 1 phase, Power 4, protection 25A

    They are connected to one riser anyway, most likely to the 35A ones, there was simply a night tariff in the past.
    So simply an application to reset the meter and connect it to the 3-phase one? This must be done by a local electrician or a licensed electrician, and will a new contract or annex be necessary?
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  • #5 19083190
    macio570
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    grzecho_h wrote:
    The meter that would remain is for: 3 phases, Power 16, Protection 35A
    The second one: 1 phase, power 4, protection 25A

    They are connected to one riser anyway, most likely to the 35A ones, there was simply a night tariff in the past.
    So simply an application to reset the meter and connect it to the 3-phase one? This must be done by a local electrician or a licensed electrician, and will a new contract or annex be necessary?


    Hi ! With ZE, you need to arrange the above-mentioned paperwork and consent to unsealing the meter. The electrician then does his job. After completing it, you report it to the Central Energy Office and after some time a gentleman will come to collect the dismantled meter.
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    mabet
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    grzecho_h wrote:
    The meter that would remain is for: 3 phases, Power 16, Protection 35A
    The second one: 1 phase, Power 4, protection 25A

    They are connected to one riser anyway, most likely to the 35A ones, there was simply a night tariff in the past.
    So simply an application to reset the meter and connect it to the 3-phase one? This must be done by a local electrician or a licensed electrician, and will a new contract or annex be necessary?

    You terminate the contract with the energy company and demand that the meter be dismantled. A gentleman from the emergency service arrives, takes the meter and cuts off the power to the already removed meter. You can do the rest with the help of an electrician you find/know.
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  • #7 19083321
    grzecho_h
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    Will the electrician be able to connect this line to the left meter on his own? As the colleague wrote above, there are seals
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  • #8 19083657
    mabet
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    yes, and you can reconnect it before taking the meter so that you don`t have to stay in a part of the house without electricity, it`s a simple operation
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    jdubowski
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    grzecho_h wrote:
    Will the electrician be able to connect this line to the left meter on his own? As the colleague wrote above, there are seals


    The electrician may submit a request to the ZE for unsealing, citing a failure.
    It may also be possible to connect the installations a bit further away where there are no seals (circuit protection).
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    William Bonawentura
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    grzecho_h wrote:
    There used to be a night tariff.


    I don`t think so. For the night tariff, the clocks had two counters.

    Your solution is probably the so-called "power and light", i.e. one meter for cheaper energy in the household tariff and the other, with a higher rate and limits, for an individual farm or a "socialized" workshop.

    If the procedure proposed by the consultant gives you an increase in security to 40A, it is worth going for it.
    If 35A is still left, it is easier to cancel the meter.
  • #11 19084520
    grzecho_h
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    Exactly as you say, but such a division is no longer valid nowadays? I have a night tariff for the light one and it`s more expensive for me, maybe I would leave it like that, but if now they add a power fee to both meters, why pay. This procedure looks worse than applying for a mortgage... it puts me off. It will probably be eliminated.
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    William Bonawentura
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    Not necessarily. You still need to install a second meter if you run a business in a residential building and it is profitable for you to include energy and VAT in your costs.

    I would describe it as very unusual that you got a dual-tariff meter only for "light". Because you can use it only at night tariff and during the day you can consume energy at the "average" price from the "power" meter instead of the increased one.

    Either way, "force and light" suggests that your installation is fifty years old. It`s definitely time for a major renovation.
  • #13 19085437
    grzecho_h
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    Well, somewhere in the 1970s, after my parents ;) .I don`t deduct anything there. There was already an electrician at my place, but he couldn`t figure it all out, hehe. I asked my parents and in fact, once upon a time, this "light" was only one line that was used for the steamer many years ago, then unfortunately they distributed this line with a night tariff and a lot of people use it during the day.
    I definitely need to switch to strength training, or rather eliminate this one.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the process of merging two energy meters under Tauron. The user seeks to eliminate one of the two meters currently installed in their home, which are connected to a single riser. Participants suggest that the user should assess their power needs and determine if one meter can handle the load. The procedure involves submitting an application to Tauron for connection conditions, terminating one contract, and possibly updating the comprehensive agreement. An electrician is required for the physical connection and unsealing of the meter. Concerns are raised about the complexity of the process and the potential for increased costs due to power fees. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the current contracts and power capacities before proceeding with the merger.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Two meters? Merge by following Tauron’s steps: "Submit an application to determine the connection conditions… conclude a connection agreement." Then terminate one agreement and update the comprehensive contract. [Elektroda, grzecho_h, post #19082617]

Why it matters: For Tauron homeowners with legacy “power and light” dual meters, this shows how to cancel one meter, cut fixed fees, and simplify wiring.

Quick Facts

What’s the simplest way to merge two Tauron meters?

Calculate your required load. If the remaining meter already covers it, terminate the other contract and consolidate circuits to one board. As one expert put it, “The easiest way is to calculate how much power you need… simply give up the other one.” [Elektroda, mabet, post #19082698]

What paperwork did Tauron outline to transfer/merge supply?

Tauron’s consultant listed: apply for connection conditions (WP/WP‑T), sign a connection agreement, terminate one agreement at the redundant point, then update the comprehensive agreement. How‑To:
  1. File WP/WP‑T and sign the connection agreement if capacity must move.
  2. Terminate the redundant PPE contract.
  3. File to update the comprehensive agreement for the remaining meter. [Elektroda, grzecho_h, post #19082617]

Do I need to involve Tauron if one meter already has enough capacity?

Not always. If one meter’s contracted power meets your needs, you can forgo capacity changes and just cancel the other meter, then connect circuits to the remaining one. First verify appliance loads, then proceed with termination and consolidation. [Elektroda, mabet, post #19082698]

Who can legally unseal the meter and reconnect circuits?

Arrange consent to unseal with the utility first. Then a qualified electrician can perform the reconnection work. After you report completion, a utility technician comes to collect the removed meter. “With ZE, you need… consent to unsealing. The electrician then does his job.” [Elektroda, macio570, post #19083190]

How do I handle seals or connect without unsealing?

Your electrician can submit an unsealing request to the DSO, citing a failure. Alternatively, join the installations downstream of sealed components, such as at the circuit protection, where no seals apply. This keeps the metering section intact. [Elektroda, jdubowski, post #19083969]

Will I lose power during the switchover? Can I avoid downtime?

You can avoid downtime by reconnecting the circuits to the remaining meter before the utility takes the second meter, provided you have consent to unseal or work downstream of seals. “You can reconnect it before taking the meter… it’s a simple operation.” [Elektroda, mabet, post #19083657]

What happens after I terminate the redundant supply?

You request meter dismantling. A utility emergency/field technician arrives, removes the meter, and isolates the redundant feed. Your electrician handles any internal reconnections beforehand or immediately after, as planned. You do not keep the old device. [Elektroda, mabet, post #19083273]

Are my capacities enough (e.g., 3‑phase 16 kW/35 A vs 1‑phase 4 kW/25 A)?

In the cited case, one meter was 3‑phase 16 kW with 35 A protection, while the other was 1‑phase 4 kW with 25 A. Consolidating onto the higher-capacity, 3‑phase meter is typical if it covers your load profile. Confirm device demands first. [Elektroda, grzecho_h, post #19083017]

Can I increase the main protection to 40 A during the process?

Yes, consider it if Tauron’s procedure offers 40 A. “If the procedure… gives you an increase in security to 40A, it is worth going for it.” If it stays 35 A, cancelling the extra meter may be simpler. [Elektroda, William Bonawentura, post #19084054]

Was this setup actually a night tariff (G12) case?

Likely not. For classic night tariffs, meters had two counters. The described two‑meter layout fits the old “power and light” split. “I don’t think so. For the night tariff, the clocks had two counters.” [Elektroda, William Bonawentura, post #19084054]

Is the old “power and light” split still relevant today?

It’s unusual now and often signals very old wiring. “Either way, ‘force and light’ suggests that your installation is fifty years old. It’s definitely time for a major renovation.” Consider a modernization when consolidating meters. [Elektroda, William Bonawentura, post #19085111]

What if my electrician can’t make sense of my 1970s wiring?

Document circuits and identify which lines were repurposed. Many homes spread the old “light” line to day circuits, causing higher costs and confusion. In such cases, eliminate the extra line and consolidate to the main 3‑phase board during renovation. [Elektroda, grzecho_h, post #19085437]

Do I need a new contract or just an annex after merging?

Expect to terminate one comprehensive agreement and then update or change the remaining comprehensive agreement’s terms following the technical data sheet. This follows the consultant’s path described in the thread. File the utility’s form to change agreement terms. [Elektroda, grzecho_h, post #19082617]

Can I skip Tauron entirely and just bridge the circuits myself?

Do not break seals without consent. Instead, request unsealing citing a failure, or have the electrician tie circuits on the non‑sealed side, such as at protective devices. This keeps you compliant while consolidating supply. [Elektroda, jdubowski, post #19083969]
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