Do any of you have a mesh network created on Mikrotik devices?
How does it work?
However, is it better to go for a solution from other manufacturers, or simple single Wifi access points?
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Nie, dziękuję Przekieruj mnie tamautomatapl wrote:However, is it better to go for a solution from other manufacturers, or simple single Wifi access points?
KOCUREK1970 wrote:Only a local AP connected by a cable to the main router makes sense.
IC_Current wrote:I recommend, however, to look at the support of fast roaming protocols and not to put completely independent APs.
Erbit wrote:A colleague has read, but there are few specific opinions about "mesh" in Mikrotik. There are several conflicting ones.A colleague of the author will check what mesh is (even in Wikipedia) to know if it is what he expects (in my opinion, not). A friend is probably looking for several APs that will cover an area with a common range. I'm wrong?
Erbit wrote:. However, you also need to know that for roaming to work, the client must also support roaming, and this can be different.
Erbit wrote:For the average "internet eater" Mikrotik is more difficult to configure than, for example, Ubiquiti and it is probably better to go in the direction of this brand, the more that Ubiquiti is roaming.
Erbit wrote:Does this switching work well within one ssid?On Mikrotik, client switching between APs works well, but it is not roaming.
automatapl wrote:What hardware platform can you recommend - a mid-range one?
automatapl wrote:
Yes, I know that the client makes the decision to switch.
automatapl wrote:Does this switching work well within one ssid?
IC_Current wrote:...
There is just like in any slightly more advanced AP the ability to set the minimum signal level. If it drops below, the AP will disconnect the client and it will search for available networks again and will usually connect to the one with better signal. There is no roaming as such.
IC_Current wrote:... TP-Link MR4
Erbit wrote:The question remains whether roaming is a requirement in the author's network - the lack of it does not bother me and in my MT-based network I do not notice any complications because of it. However, I am aware that this is not roaming and if I had, for example, portable VoIP, I would definitely feel it.
IC_Current wrote:UNIFI
automatapl wrote:
I always put an AP connected with a wire to the router, regardless of whether it would be mesh or not.
automatapl wrote:I have 2x unifi AC lite in a two-story house. Turn on and forget. Just no problems with the WiFi. Previously, I had a single AC mikrotik, so I won't talk about switching, but it caused more problems: slow operation with Samsung phones, out of the box it didn't want to connect to any old iPhones (it was overcome). I am happy with the transfer. But be that as it may, the wired router remained mikrotika.
Damn..., the UBIQUITI solution will be at least 2x more expensive than Mikrotik.
Does it actually work so well that it's worth the price?
automatapl wrote:Even if it implements, it will take 2 years until it is stable. That's the beauty of mikrotik.
Do you happen to know if Mikrotik intends to implement roaming at home?
automatapl wrote:...
Do you happen to know if Mikrotik intends to implement roaming at home?
automatapl wrote:
IC_Current wrote:UNIFI
Damn..., the UBIQUITI solution will be at least 2x more expensive than Mikrotik.
Does it actually work so well that it's worth the price?
Erbit wrote:I don't like TP-Link either but I believe my colleague @IC_Current and if he wrote elsewhere that the roaming test itself works well, it means that roaming works well in this model
m.jastrzebski wrote:I have 2x unifi AC lite in a two-story house. Turn on and forget. Just no problems with the WiFi. Previously, I had a single AC mikrotik, so I won't talk about switching, but it caused more problems: slow operation with Samsung phones, out of the box it didn't want to connect to any old iPhones (it was overcome). I am happy with the transfer. But be that as it may, the wired router remained mikrotika.
Erbit wrote:For now, the MT representative officially on the forum claims that they are NOT going to - yes, I know, everyone is surprised - and they are not.
automatapl wrote:
Thanks for sharing your own experiences.
Does unifi have one ssid and one password? I want to be sure.
automatapl wrote:Even if you put any 2 APs of different companies, you can set them the same SSID and the same password. So in unifi of course too.
Thanks for sharing your own experiences.
Does unifi work with one ssid and one password? I want to be sure.
KOCUREK1970 wrote:@automatapl
If you think about Ubi equipment - the idea of joint management as an ecosystem: AP AC Lite, AC LR, and perhaps Ubi USG.
m.jastrzebski wrote:Then the costs were rising and I sensed the author's reluctance to increase them.
Co-management makes more sense when you have hundreds of them in a company in different locations, with the same security policy, etc. Up to two APs per house plus a router, the ability to manage from one desktop in my opinion is practically no argument for incurring additional expenses. In home conditions, there is practically no work apart from the initial configuration. But that's my opinion, the author has to decide for himself.
automatapl wrote:There is no one simple answer to this. There are several roaming protocols, they serve different purposes, and in order to take advantage of the benefits, the phone/computer must also support the protocols. So the newer the phone, the better it should be. But on older models, connection drops can happen. In addition, from what I associate, unifi boasts that it has its own solutions, not formally derived from these protocols, which are supposed to support shortening the client authorization process in the new AP, so even older client devices gain something then. You won't know until you test it on your client devices. If you want, I can test you, go with the phone from one AP to another, only you would have to define the test conditions. What type of connection are you interested in. He doesn't lose pings. But the ping is sent every second, so relatively long.
I knew via an additional Mikrotik from Wifi and set my network's ssid and password on it. The switching works, but when the AP is changed, the connection is dropped. As I understand, thanks to unifi, I will not feel it through the roaming function.
automatapl wrote:m.jastrzebski wrote:There is no one simple answer to this.
How does Ubiquiti software update look like? I would not like to buy equipment for PLN 800-1000 and not have updates for it in 3 years.
m.jastrzebski wrote:I have 2x unifi AC lite in a two-story house. Turn on and forget.
automatapl wrote:chatman1 wrote:Transmission power at a minimum and coverage throughout the apartment everywhere.
I was already wondering if such APs don't have too much power to place 2-3pcs. in an apartment of 60-80m2?
m.jastrzebski wrote:I don't think so. Power can be reduced. And if you want to take advantage of the fast AC 5ghz, the ap must be indoors. Already behind a single wall, the phone connects to 2.4ghz or its speed drops to 5ghz. I personally reduced the power to 2.4 because almost all devices did not connect to 5ghz, because the signal was weaker.
automatapl wrote:m.jastrzebski wrote:I don't think so. Power can be reduced. And if you want to take advantage of the fast AC 5ghz, the ap must be indoors. Already behind a single wall, the phone connects to 2.4ghz or its speed drops to 5ghz. I personally reduced the power to 2.4 because almost all devices did not connect to 5ghz, because the signal was weaker.
Is it possible to disable 2.4 and leave 5ghz with reduced power? Two or three such devices should cover my apartment - it's just a matter of their good location
automatapl wrote:How does Ubiquiti software update look like? I would not like to buy equipment for PLN 800-1000 and not have updates for it in 3 years.
automatapl wrote:Please give me your picks
KOCUREK1970 wrote:AP AC Lite, AC LR
TL;DR: Tests show 0-packet loss during roaming on TP-Link MR4 versus noticeable call drop on Mikrotik (-100 % packets) [Elektroda, IC_Current, post #19443564] “Mesh is marketing gibberish” [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #19443307] Go wired APs with fast-roaming, e.g., UniFi AC Lite, for flats ≤80 m².
Why it matters: seamless roaming stops VoIP stutter and preserves Gigabit backhaul.
• UniFi UAP-AC-Lite: 2×2 MIMO, ≈300 Mbps @2.4 GHz + 867 Mbps @5 GHz [Ubiquiti Datasheet]. • Street price UAP-AC-Lite ≈ PLN 350/unit [Elektroda, m.jastrzebski, post #19445162] • TP-Link MR4 fast-roaming loses 0 packets in chat tests [Elektroda, IC_Current, post #19443564] • Firmware support: ≥5 years typical for Ubiquiti APs [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #19445107] • PoE does not affect Cat 6A throughput (1 Gb s) [Elektroda, IC_Current, post #19445155]