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Implants in Turkey and Ukraine where the catch is

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  • #1 19544412
    Zdzisiek2023
    Level 4  
    I assume it's full-time dentists. Working hours in Poland, probably PLN 100, and such an implant probably in an hour or a few. Probably 50 zlotys from a Turkish or Ukrainian dentist. Why do we have 4,000 implants and 2,000 there? Other Titans and Porcelain? But what is the cost of a good material, since it does not have to be branded, but the composition must be 100% of the best quality. Where's the catch?
    If we have such a copy, there would always be competition, which would be satisfied with a lower margin and a high turnover.
    Same for Minus Eye Surgery. Do the Turks have any old equipment?

    Moderated By ArturAVS:

    Elektroda.pl is not a pompon, assume subject topics because so far it looks like a special and evident trolling!

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  • #2 19544436
    Aleksander_01
    Level 43  
    It's normal, Turkey and Ukraine are poorer countries than we are. There, 100 dollars has twice as much purchasing power as in Poland. The implant of the Korean company itself costs something on O (a world tycoon) costs less than PLN 1000. The surplus is the dentist's earnings. There are also fakes, I suspect they are and will be cheaper than well-known brands.
  • #3 19544443
    Zdzisiek2023
    Level 4  
    But this is nonsense. 100% margin. There will be an investor who is satisfied with 20% and will have a great turnover. Fielmann makes glasses and an examination for PLN 89. Where's the catch?

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Besides, is titanium alone expensive for 1 implant - material alone?
    Because, for example, a 0.999 gold bar is the same indifferent to the Swiss London one from Warsaw
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  • #4 19544446
    Matheu
    Level 25  
    Aleksander_01 wrote:
    The surplus is the dentist's earnings.
    Dentist's earnings + taxes + office maintenance + dental assistant + taxes (again) ...
    Simply - other living costs ...

    And the Germans - apparently, come to us (to Poland) for treatment ...
  • #5 19544465
    Zdzisiek2023
    Level 4  
    A private dentist in Poland often charges PLN 100 for a filling. Tez has assistant taxes etc. Maybe you need permissions? Well, download it from UA. Where's the catch.
  • #6 19544476
    Aleksander_01
    Level 43  
    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    A private dentist in Poland often charges PLN 100 for a filling. Tez has assistant taxes etc. Maybe you need permissions? Well, download it from UA. Where's the catch.

    HOW MUCH ? I recently paid 300 zlotys for a tear-out, and apparently the root canal costs well over 1000 zlotys. The implant was around PLN 4,000, but at the beginning it was PLN 10,000.
    The law of the market also works here (although a bit different) and implants will be cheap, i.e. a robot, because more and more dentists will insert them.
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  • #7 19544503
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    Cheaper blender buy ?
  • #8 19544528
    Zdzisiek2023
    Level 4  
    Does it follow that X-rays other than 1-3 pay always Implants in Turkey and Ukraine where the catch is ? Because, for example, panoramas and always payable.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    And why is the sewer so expensive? The antibiotic you put in your teeth is it the same as you take orally, for example amoxicillin? And you can pay extra for light-cured fillings and how much is it with you? Now I am writing about nfz
  • #9 19544539
    Marek_Skalski
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    Other Titans and Porcelain? But what is the cost of a good material, since it does not have to be branded, but the composition must be 100% of the best quality. Where's the catch?

    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    Besides, is titanium alone expensive for 1 implant - material alone?

    Do you know how many titanium alloys there are and how many of them show biocompatibility? Do you know that an implant is not only a piece of metal, and the installation itself is a surgical procedure? In case of problems, will you fly to Turkey or Ukraine again?
    Do you seem to want to save 100 zlotys or maybe you are collecting people willing for such a trip, because you have a commission on it? Where's the catch? :lol:
  • #10 19544565
    Zdzisiek2023
    Level 4  
    A procedure that drills into bone instead of into a tooth. Roboczogodzina is Roboczogodzina and since there are no employees, it is necessary to take from UA. 2 man-hours do not justify 2000 PLN more. Since the dentist will get PLN 100 more for them as in Kiev or Bodrum.
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  • #11 19544576
    Aleksander_01
    Level 43  
    There is a free market, they take as much as they think is right. After all, before "assembly" of the implants you are informed about the price and you can resign from the service.
    The problem is that when you pay more, you don't get "more" at all. If that were the case, a lot of people would rather pay more.
  • #12 19544594
    puchalak
    Level 17  
    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    ... and such an implant probably takes an hour or a few.


    Such a procedure is not shooting pegs into the wall, but a pile of visits at intervals, additionally burdened with a high probability of problems requiring quick and sometimes compiled intervention, such as implanting an implant when it is rejected.
    In addition, it is estimated that 1.5% of the adult Ukrainian population is HIV positive. Dental procedures carry a high risk of transmission of this virus with insufficient sterilization of reusable tools.
    So you can leave with not only an implanted tooth.
  • #13 19544606
    Aleksander_01
    Level 43  
    puchalak wrote:

    So you can leave with not only an implanted tooth.

    My friend liked to go there, he had syphilis four times. What was drawing him there?
  • #14 19544759
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics  
    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:

    And why is the sewer so expensive? The antibiotic you put in your teeth is it the same as you take orally, for example amoxicillin?


    Do you understand the difference between an oral application and surgery?
    I understand that for you, opening the patient's tooth, involving the removal of quite hard material, application of anesthesia (they used to do it without, I had two treatments myself and I still remember the impressions ...), filling the canal - the quality of the filling affects the overall treatment inflammation is very easy to cause - and then to close it: To you, is the same as taking a tablet by mouth?

    Most of the questions you ask indicate a complete misunderstanding of how the economy works and how the market works, but you have a deep socialist belief that everyone, everywhere, deserves the same amount.

    I think here is the catch for your "problems".
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the cost disparity of dental implants in Turkey and Ukraine compared to Poland. Participants highlight that lower costs in these countries can be attributed to lower living expenses and purchasing power. Concerns are raised about the quality of materials used, particularly titanium alloys, and the potential risks associated with dental procedures abroad, including inadequate sterilization practices. The conversation also touches on the economic principles of supply and demand, questioning why prices remain high in Poland despite competition. Additionally, the complexities of dental procedures and the importance of quality care are emphasized, with some participants expressing skepticism about the safety and reliability of treatments in less regulated environments.
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