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Implants in Turkey and Ukraine where the catch is

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  • #1 19544412
    Zdzisiek2023
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    I assume it's full-time dentists. Working hours in Poland, probably PLN 100, and such an implant probably in an hour or a few. Probably 50 zlotys from a Turkish or Ukrainian dentist. Why do we have 4,000 implants and 2,000 there? Other Titans and Porcelain? But what is the cost of a good material, since it does not have to be branded, but the composition must be 100% of the best quality. Where's the catch?
    If we have such a copy, there would always be competition, which would be satisfied with a lower margin and a high turnover.
    Same for Minus Eye Surgery. Do the Turks have any old equipment?

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    Elektroda.pl is not a pompon, assume subject topics because so far it looks like a special and evident trolling!

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  • #2 19544436
    Aleksander_01
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    It's normal, Turkey and Ukraine are poorer countries than we are. There, 100 dollars has twice as much purchasing power as in Poland. The implant of the Korean company itself costs something on O (a world tycoon) costs less than PLN 1000. The surplus is the dentist's earnings. There are also fakes, I suspect they are and will be cheaper than well-known brands.
  • #3 19544443
    Zdzisiek2023
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    But this is nonsense. 100% margin. There will be an investor who is satisfied with 20% and will have a great turnover. Fielmann makes glasses and an examination for PLN 89. Where's the catch?

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    Besides, is titanium alone expensive for 1 implant - material alone?
    Because, for example, a 0.999 gold bar is the same indifferent to the Swiss London one from Warsaw
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  • #4 19544446
    Matheu
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    Aleksander_01 wrote:
    The surplus is the dentist's earnings.
    Dentist's earnings + taxes + office maintenance + dental assistant + taxes (again) ...
    Simply - other living costs ...

    And the Germans - apparently, come to us (to Poland) for treatment ...
  • #5 19544465
    Zdzisiek2023
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    A private dentist in Poland often charges PLN 100 for a filling. Tez has assistant taxes etc. Maybe you need permissions? Well, download it from UA. Where's the catch.
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    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    A private dentist in Poland often charges PLN 100 for a filling. Tez has assistant taxes etc. Maybe you need permissions? Well, download it from UA. Where's the catch.

    HOW MUCH ? I recently paid 300 zlotys for a tear-out, and apparently the root canal costs well over 1000 zlotys. The implant was around PLN 4,000, but at the beginning it was PLN 10,000.
    The law of the market also works here (although a bit different) and implants will be cheap, i.e. a robot, because more and more dentists will insert them.
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    Cheaper blender buy ?
  • #8 19544528
    Zdzisiek2023
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    Does it follow that X-rays other than 1-3 pay always Implants in Turkey and Ukraine where the catch is ? Because, for example, panoramas and always payable.

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    And why is the sewer so expensive? The antibiotic you put in your teeth is it the same as you take orally, for example amoxicillin? And you can pay extra for light-cured fillings and how much is it with you? Now I am writing about nfz
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    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    Other Titans and Porcelain? But what is the cost of a good material, since it does not have to be branded, but the composition must be 100% of the best quality. Where's the catch?

    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    Besides, is titanium alone expensive for 1 implant - material alone?

    Do you know how many titanium alloys there are and how many of them show biocompatibility? Do you know that an implant is not only a piece of metal, and the installation itself is a surgical procedure? In case of problems, will you fly to Turkey or Ukraine again?
    Do you seem to want to save 100 zlotys or maybe you are collecting people willing for such a trip, because you have a commission on it? Where's the catch? :lol:
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  • #10 19544565
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    A procedure that drills into bone instead of into a tooth. Roboczogodzina is Roboczogodzina and since there are no employees, it is necessary to take from UA. 2 man-hours do not justify 2000 PLN more. Since the dentist will get PLN 100 more for them as in Kiev or Bodrum.
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    There is a free market, they take as much as they think is right. After all, before "assembly" of the implants you are informed about the price and you can resign from the service.
    The problem is that when you pay more, you don't get "more" at all. If that were the case, a lot of people would rather pay more.
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    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:
    ... and such an implant probably takes an hour or a few.


    Such a procedure is not shooting pegs into the wall, but a pile of visits at intervals, additionally burdened with a high probability of problems requiring quick and sometimes compiled intervention, such as implanting an implant when it is rejected.
    In addition, it is estimated that 1.5% of the adult Ukrainian population is HIV positive. Dental procedures carry a high risk of transmission of this virus with insufficient sterilization of reusable tools.
    So you can leave with not only an implanted tooth.
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    puchalak wrote:

    So you can leave with not only an implanted tooth.

    My friend liked to go there, he had syphilis four times. What was drawing him there?
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    Zdzisiek2023 wrote:

    And why is the sewer so expensive? The antibiotic you put in your teeth is it the same as you take orally, for example amoxicillin?


    Do you understand the difference between an oral application and surgery?
    I understand that for you, opening the patient's tooth, involving the removal of quite hard material, application of anesthesia (they used to do it without, I had two treatments myself and I still remember the impressions ...), filling the canal - the quality of the filling affects the overall treatment inflammation is very easy to cause - and then to close it: To you, is the same as taking a tablet by mouth?

    Most of the questions you ask indicate a complete misunderstanding of how the economy works and how the market works, but you have a deep socialist belief that everyone, everywhere, deserves the same amount.

    I think here is the catch for your "problems".
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✨ The discussion revolves around the cost disparity of dental implants in Turkey and Ukraine compared to Poland. Participants highlight that lower costs in these countries can be attributed to lower living expenses and purchasing power. Concerns are raised about the quality of materials used, particularly titanium alloys, and the potential risks associated with dental procedures abroad, including inadequate sterilization practices. The conversation also touches on the economic principles of supply and demand, questioning why prices remain high in Poland despite competition. Additionally, the complexities of dental procedures and the importance of quality care are emphasized, with some participants expressing skepticism about the safety and reliability of treatments in less regulated environments.
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TL;DR: Expect around PLN 4,000 per implant in Poland (earlier quotes ~PLN 10,000). "The law of the market also works here." People abroad pay less due to lower overhead, not worse titanium. [Elektroda, Aleksander_01, post #19544476]

Why it matters: If youre comparing implant costs in Poland vs Turkey/Ukraine, this FAQ shows where savings are real and where risks start.

Quick Facts

Why are implants cheaper in Turkey or Ukraine than in Poland?

Lower local costs reduce overhead. Dentists there pay less for rent, wages, and taxes. Prices reflect these inputs, not just materials. "Simply  other living costs." Savings can shrink once you add travel and follow-up. [Elektroda, Matheu, post #19544446]

What am I paying for besides the implant screw?

Implant care includes planning, surgery, and several follow-ups. Clinics price time, staff, imaging, and sterile consumables. Complications can need quick, complex intervention. That standby capacity also costs money. It is more than the metal part. [Elektroda, puchalak, post #19544594]

Is titanium the main cost driver?

No. A reputable Korean implant can cost under PLN 1,000. Most of the bill is clinical work and liability. "The surplus is the dentist's earnings." Materials are only part of total treatment cost. [Elektroda, Aleksander_01, post #19544436]

Are there counterfeit or low-grade implants on the market?

A user flagged fakes as present and cheaper than known brands. Protect yourself with traceable systems and documentation. Check packaging, lot numbers, and invoices. Ask which brand and model they place. Avoid unverified supply sources. [Elektroda, Aleksander_01, post #19544436]

How long does implant treatment take, and what are the steps?

Expect multiple visits at intervals. It starts with assessment and planning. Then surgery places the implant. Follow-ups manage healing and any issues. Final restoration mounts the crown.
  1. Consultation and imaging.
  2. Surgical placement.
  3. Healing and crown fitting. [Elektroda, puchalak, post #19544594]

Why is a root canal more expensive than a filling?

Root canal therapy is surgery on a tooth. It needs anesthesia, mechanical canal preparation, and careful sealing. Sealing quality affects future inflammation risk. The work is complex and time intensive. That complexity increases price. [Elektroda, Madrik, post #19544759]

Can antibiotics replace a root canal?

No. Pills cannot mechanically clean or shape an infected canal. The dentist must remove tissue and disinfect internally. Proper sealing prevents reinfection. Tablets alone leave the source untreated. Procedure, not pills, resolves the problem. [Elektroda, Madrik, post #19544759]

Are panoramic X-rays covered, or do I always pay extra?

Thread users report panoramas as payable at clinics. Coverage and copays differ by provider and funding route. Confirm prices before imaging. Ask how many images your plan includes. Get it in writing before treatment. [Elektroda, Zdzisiek2023, post #19544528]

Is it safe to get implants abroad? What infection risks exist?

Safety varies by clinic, not country alone. Sterilization rigor is critical. A post cites 1.5% adult HIV prevalence in Ukraine. That underscores strict hygiene checks. Verify instrument processing and disposable use policies. [Elektroda, puchalak, post #19544594]

What happens if an implant fails or is rejected?

You may need urgent assessment and intervention. Removal and later re-implantation can be required. Timely access matters for outcomes. Travel can delay care when you need it most. Plan local follow-up before traveling. [Elektroda, puchalak, post #19544594]

Do clinics in Turkey or Ukraine use old equipment, and does it matter?

Equipment age varies by clinic. The bigger risk is poor sterilization and workflow. Ask about protocols and monitoring. Review imaging quality and maintenance records. Choose clinics that document infection control. [Elektroda, puchalak, post #19544594]

Why doesnt a low-margin clinic dominate the market?

Implants demand time, multiple visits, and standby capacity for complications. Clinics also carry follow-up and liability. Ultra-low margins threaten service reliability. Capacity and outcomes beat sticker price. That is why price gaps persist. [Elektroda, puchalak, post #19544594]

Do Germans really travel to Poland for dental treatment?

A user noted such cross-border treatment. Price differences drive patient travel. This reflects regional cost structures. It does not imply better or worse care automatically. "Germans come to us for treatment" was reported. [Elektroda, Matheu, post #19544446]

Is titanium purity the same everywhere?

Titanium comes in many alloys, but only some are biocompatible. The implant is more than metal choice. Surgical technique strongly influences success. "An implant is not only a piece of metal." Prioritize proven systems and skill. [Elektroda, Marek_Skalski, post #19544539]

What should I ask a clinic abroad before booking?

Ask which implant brand, model, and lot they use. Request documentation and invoices. Confirm sterilization protocols and follow-up plans. Who handles complications locally? How fast can you be seen if problems occur? [Elektroda, puchalak, post #19544594]
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