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Is Schuko Socket Worth Adopting in Poland? Benefits & Compatibility with Uni-Schuko & Europlugs

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  • #1 17125022
    BANANvanDYK
    Level 42  
    Do not you think that Schuko sockets should be used more and more often in Poland? Most European and Euro-Asian countries use Schuko sockets and plugs:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko#History
    The devices equipped with uni-schuko plugs (CEE 7/7) or Europlug (CEE 7/16, CEE 7/17) have been the standard in Poland for many years. Recently, I even bought a cable plug in the shop in the uni-schuko standard, in a form that was used even during PRL, so there should be no problem with migration.
    The advantages of Schuko:
    - there are no problems with reversing the plug. There is no problem with that, for example, the power supply on the extension cable will not fit. A smaller problem with the fact that, for example, time trials can not be put in the so-called hermetic, because the can must be at the top so you have to break the flap. In addition, they take a second slot in double sockets. The real solution - you need to buy a lot more expensive equipment with a housing at the bottom.
    Disadvantages:
    - old plugs and devices that remember the times of PRL, originating from the USSR (and so they do not fit into the sockets with a protective pin) and those typically Polish and the French standard do not match.

    I would put such sockets next to the usual nests of the French standard in my home and workshop, so that there is always a choice. Nobody is forbidden to do this in my home. Only what would you think about it? Do you use such sockets, have you already convinced them?
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  • #2 17129480
    RafZielak

    Level 12  
    Everything would be beautiful if all the installations worked in TN-S or in TN-CS. In PL we still have too many sculptures around the houses, even more in all sorts of extensions and devices, ubiquitous zeroing and this protective pin, however, nicely positioned plug in the slot "guaranteeing" that the phase wire will be on the left (when "pin" on top ).
  • #3 17129487
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    RafZielak wrote:
    ... and this protective pin, however, nicely positions the plug in the socket "guaranteeing" that the phase wire will be on the left side (when "pin" on top).

    Buddy, it's time to finish these fairy tales by "positioning" the plugs in the sockets.
    And besides, the nest in question will not pass the exam in an installation where protection against electric shock is zeroing or earthing?
    But why?
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  • #4 17129499
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    RafZielak wrote:
    Everything would be beautiful if all the installations worked in TN-S or in TN-CS


    And what are the contraindications for TT installations :?:

    RafZielak wrote:
    however, it nicely positions the plug in the "guarantee" slot that the phase wire will be on the left (when the "pin" on top)


    And what does it matter to the powered device :?: and the truth is that there is no guarantee that you will always hit the phase on the left and here a simple example of a double socket.

    BANANvanDYK wrote:
    Only what would you think about it? Do you use such sockets, have you already convinced them?


    All in all, the idea OK but rather investors will not convince.
  • #5 17129711
    BANANvanDYK
    Level 42  
    RafZielak wrote:
    that the phase wire will be on the left side (when the "pin" on the top).

    Yes? And another norm in another country said that the phase on the right.
    There is no such thing as polarizing the plug / socket in Poland!
    Take into account that in PL the French system is used, where in France the TT network system is used. L and N wires are treated as active conductors, so on both of them you can expect a voltage to the local PE. In addition, the required use of RCD does not allow any active conductor to be connected to earth or PE, in particular to the housing of the device.
    Polarized nests (L and N at a specific location) are only used in several countries.

    Investors certainly will not convince. For now, there is a norm for the French system. But it is worth considering Italy, where two types of sockets are used (Italian and German Schuko systems) depending on the region, but there is no rule from it anyway.
    Certainly there should not be a problem in IT. All plugs for computers and peripherals are in the uni-schuko standard.
  • #6 17129800
    emigrant
    Level 29  
    Do not insert Chinese non-cord extension cords into sockets with a pin. Although there is a way to do it. People do notches with a knife in the plug.

    Is Schuko Socket Worth Adopting in Poland? Benefits & Compatibility with Uni-Schuko & Europlugs
  • #7 17129852
    BANANvanDYK
    Level 42  
    Do you know what I think about Chinese extension cords?
    Is Schuko Socket Worth Adopting in Poland? Benefits & Compatibility with Uni-Schuko & Europlugs
    As recently in the work, the extension socket made a short circuit such that half of the power plant did not have it, it was already Chinese ........ I do not intend to take it. The element to which the cord is screwed is detached. In the new one - the element is poorly pressed and loose. Producer Czech Republic (Made in PRC).
  • #8 17129866
    emigrant
    Level 29  
    What you think is completely irrelevant. People buy it because it is available for sale. To choose to color.
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  • #9 17129930
    BANANvanDYK
    Level 42  
    It is a pity that not enough people and institutions control it. Such Chinese extension cords, power cords etc. are not compliant with the standards. Do you see a PE vein there? Do you see a 0.75 mm? wire there? The use of such conductors may cause a fire as well as electric shock (no PE, PCV armor that breaks easily).
  • #10 17129955
    emigrant
    Level 29  
    Two months ago I was in a shop where there was a corner with wires. There were some wires of different cross-section (brown, blue). I'm asking a guy why it's lying? It lies because there is a customer demand for such wires. So much in the subject.
    In addition, the first better warehouse with your website https://www.tim.pl/wyszuki/wyniki/?q=ydyp+2x2.5&p=1&category=ALL
  • #11 17130321
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #13 17131063
    zetdeel
    Level 39  
    WojcikW wrote:
    If someone wants to set up a Schuko socket, it is obligatory to set up an English socket next to it ...
    And why not Danish? When you look at the nest, the humor immediately improves. :D
    WojcikW wrote:
    ... An additional advantage of the English socket (such a bonus) will be the fuse in the plug. It will be fun, because such a fuse can be borrowed.
    E there. A real fun will be how you can find the right diameter nail. Cut the pliers and insert instead of a fuse. :D :D :D
  • #14 17131190
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    BANANvanDYK wrote:


    I would put such sockets next to the usual nests of the French standard in my home and workshop, so that there is always a choice. Nobody is forbidden to do this in my home. Only what would you think about it? Do you use such sockets, have you already convinced them?


    For me, total nonsense, I personally think that it is a hypertext form over the content, but the choice is yours :D

    Why enter the additional Schuko sockets, since both of them do the same in the same way? The latter "Belgian" are more universal.
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  • #15 17138387
    BANANvanDYK
    Level 42  
    In some respects, even better systems would be where the plug has a protective contact in the form of a protruding pin such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Israeli-type-H-plugs-and-socket.jpg. Such a grounding plug can not be plugged into a socket that does not have an earthing connection. Not with us, people unknowingly deprive themselves of protection by connecting the devices in the first class of protection to the socket without grounding. Unless someone without permission replaces the socket, and the installation without a "zero" or PE. But that is not the point.
    I want to point out that the predominant area of Europe applies the Schuko standard, so why should we be different and apply the Franco-Belgian standard. Accessories in the Schuko standard are normally available for purchase in Poland (and produced at us), unlike UK accessories and other more unusual ones.
    Some have 10 points in their room in their new homes, one every 2 meters, so are we talking about adding additional sockets? Of course, you can all change to Schuko, and if you get a device of the French standard then you can use the adapter.
    However, at the time of repairs, I will start exchanging sockets for Schuko.
  • #16 17138408
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #17 17138471
    PiotrPitucha
    Level 34  
    Hello
    I like the Swiss system :) As I saw in the hotel, I fell in love with this system. It is a pity that it is not compatible with other sockets, but the possibility of inserting a typical size three plugs with a grounding pin is just as interesting as Swiss watches.
    This is what https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEV_1011 looks like
    greetings
  • #18 17138481
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    BANANvanDYK wrote:
    Of course, you can all change to Schuko, and if you get a device of the French standard then you can use the adapter.
    However, at the time of repairs, I will start exchanging sockets for Schuko.


    Budego Your installation and you will use it. You want to make your life difficult with your will passes :D

    I close.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the adoption of Schuko sockets in Poland, highlighting their compatibility with existing uni-Schuko and Europlug standards. Participants express concerns about the current electrical installations in Poland, particularly regarding grounding and safety. The advantages of Schuko sockets include ease of plug insertion without orientation issues and compatibility with a wide range of devices. However, there are debates about the existing French system's prevalence and the potential challenges in transitioning to Schuko. Some participants advocate for the Schuko standard due to its widespread use across Europe, while others emphasize the need for proper electrical safety measures and standards compliance. The conversation also touches on the quality of extension cords and the risks associated with non-compliant products.
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