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Title: GAMA 350 PGE Bidirectional Counter: Vector Balancing, Installations & Reading Codes

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  • #1 19588411
    kal1889
    Level 4  
    As the installations were only connected to me today and I was not interested in the details too much, I am asking for advice on how to determine that I will have vector balancing. PGE Rzeszów district. The second question is what to look for to make sure everything is connected properly, and not, as there were cases, where production was counted as consumption and vice versa. Does anyone have instructions for this specific meter with specific codes because I have no idea what it means, for example, 2.8.0.04 when the PGE website gives, for example, 2.8.0.04 for April and not with the ending .4 as in mine. I am asking for your understanding and clear explanation
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  • #3 19588915
    kal1889
    Level 4  
    yes, I have this attachment, but here, for example, for June it is 06 and for me it is 6 so I do not know if it is equivocal and in October there will be, for example, one digit or not. The second, more important issue is whether it balances vectorally

    Added after 1 [hours] 41 [minutes]:

    after a few hours of observation according to the inverter, I have produced 4.75 kWh and on the counter I have 3.5, consumed 4.8 where yesterday at 9 pm it was 2.5 from 2 pm on Monday, i.e. in 17 hours, 2.3 consumption increased, can this mean that balancing is vector?[/u]
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  • #4 19593601
    gmacko
    Level 15  
    For me, the historical indications of the GAMA 350 counter do not coincide with this manual.
    2.8.1 T1 1718.7
    2.8.1.9 T1 1660.3
    2.8.2.8 T1 987.7
    2.8.1.7 T1 21
    2.8.1.6 T1 0

    The meter was replaced on the last day of June and then the installation was launched, and there are no exports for June.
    As of today, 3/09 it is 1718.7 kWh, and at the end of August it was 1660.3 kWh.

    So here's the manual entry
    2.8.0.04 Status of the active energy counter introduced to the DSO grid at the end of April (in kWh)
    it would be ok if it was 2.8.1.5 and then we have data for April.

    Indications for the end of September will be under 2.8.1.10
    I wonder how it will be at the end of the year, probably 2.8.1.1.

    Added after 22 [minutes]:

    kal1889 wrote:
    after a few hours of observation according to the inverter, I have produced 4.75 kWh and on the meter I have 3.5, consumed 4.8 where yesterday at 9 pm it was 2.5 from 2 pm on Monday, i.e. in 17 hours, 2.3 consumption increased, can this mean that balancing is vector?


    You won't check anything. During the hours when your installation produces, let's say 3kW, turn off all receivers at home and load one phase, e.g. a microwave or oven (if it is 1 phase). Such an oven draws from 3kW when heating up.

    That is, the installation provides you with about 1kW for one phase, but also provides 1kW on the other phases, so if the meter balances vectorally, it should not show the instantaneous power of 2kW for consumption, but only about zero, because the entire production from the installation on 3 phases meets the demand on phase 1.

    You can read the instantaneous power on the meter under
    - 1.7.0 Power P+, instantaneous value (if any value appears here, it means that you take such power from the network) THIS PARAMETER IS NOT AVAILABLE ON MY COUNTER Yet I found this one.

    - 2.7.0 Power P - instantaneous value (if any value appears here, it means that you give such power to the network)
  • #5 19593641
    jsw
    Level 14  
    The GAMA 350 counter has 1.8.0 consumption and 2.8.0 delivery abacus. It also has two shift registers k.8.0.l, k={1,2}, l={4,5,6,7,8,9}.
    On the last day of the month at 23:59, the following occurs:
    1/ moving all records in registers one position down (lower index), position k.8.0.9 is released,
    the content of k.8.0.4 is lost
    2/ the counters k.8.0 are read and recorded in the registers in position k.8.0.9 and transferred to the operator's billing systems.
    These are classic FIFO registers, first in, first out.
    So we have access to monthly historical data for half a year after the end of a given month.
  • #6 19593670
    gmacko
    Level 15  
    And gites. So now I see from .09 - .04. Next month it will jump to .10 - .05
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  • #7 19593683
    jsw
    Level 14  
    NO. There is no item k.8.0.10 in GAMA 350. There are only items that I listed and in them the data moves.
  • #8 19593699
    gmacko
    Level 15  
    Well, in GAMA 350 I have the following items currently available and I assume that these are the 6 months that will be available and will move every month:
    2.8.0
    2.8.0.9
    2.8.0.8
    2.8.0.7
    2.8.0.6
    2.8.0.5
    2.8.0.4

    Anyway, here's a video with the parameters of this meter available to me.
    https://youtu.be/9-ipV8ld6h8

    Added after 1 [hour] 50 [minutes]:

    Okay, I know what it is. These parameters from 4-9 are unchanged and are available every month from 4-9, but they work as a colleague mentioned, like shift registers. I checked the video from July and it looked like this

    July:
    2.8.0 - 257.9 kWh current from the date of reading
    2.8.0.9 - 21 kWh last month, June.
    2.8.0.8 - 0 kWh
    2.8.0.7 - 0 kWh
    2.8.0.6 - 0 kWh
    2.8.0.5 - 0 kWh
    2.8.0.4 - 0 kWh

    Now it looks like this:
    September:
    2.8.0 - 1718.7 kWh current from the date of reading
    2.8.0.9 - 1660.3 kWh last month, August
    2.8.0.8 - 987.7 kWh July
    2.8.0.7 - 21kWh June
    2.8.0.6 - 0 kWh
    2.8.0.5 - 0 kWh
    2.8.0.4 - 0 kWh

    So, in fact, these are only free slots for presenting data and when they end, the oldest (21 kWh) will fall out, and the newest one will enter the position 2.8.0.9

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the GAMA 350 PGE bidirectional counter, focusing on vector balancing, installation verification, and code interpretation. Users express concerns about discrepancies between energy production and consumption readings, questioning whether the counter is accurately balancing energy. They discuss specific meter codes, such as 2.8.0.04, and how these codes relate to monthly energy data. Participants share insights on the counter's historical data management, indicating that the GAMA 350 uses FIFO registers for tracking energy consumption and delivery. Observations reveal that the counter's readings may not align with expected values, prompting users to seek clarification on proper installation and functionality.
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