Hi, I came up with the idea of running myself a wake on lan remotely (via the internet and not the local network), I started of course with Wake on Lan, I managed to set this up, without too much trouble, I used the WolOn(Wake On Lan app for Android) I entered myself the necessary ip addresses,...

Name: Configuring Wake on Wan via UPC's ConnectBox router without DDNS
Uploaded: 2021-10-23T09:05:39+02:00
Description: Hi, I came up with the idea of running myself a wake on lan remotely (via the internet and not the local network), I started of course with Wake on Lan, I managed to set this up, without too much trouble, I used the WolOn(Wake On Lan app for Android) I entered myself the necessary ip addresses,...

First, determine whether you get a public address on the router from the provider. If you have a private one, then for any data packet to reach it from outside, you need a VPN. If you have a public address, you can try putting the provider's router into bridge mode, and put your own behind it that supports DDNS and Wakeon WAN.

I didn't mention this - I got myself an external fixed IP not long ago, while as for the router, I don't have my own at the moment, so I'm looking for other options :/.

This is logical - the magic WoL launch packet is not routable, it is sent to the physical (MAC) address of the interface. Therefore, you need at least one computer on the network turned on, it may be something smaller than a bar of soap but it has to be, the alternative is a router capable of sending a WoL packet. And this on top of the VPN server must be on the public Internet, to it must be connected a client from the internal network and a client on the device from which you want to control.

It's he most important you didn't mention. If you have a fixed external IP, you don't need DDNS. You always get to the router by IP address. You need DDNS when your IP is external but changeable. Then you can get to it by name (which is translated into this variable IP). I assume that the router from the vendor is able to at least forward ports? Then you put something behind the router that can do this - the cheapest old router for 50PLN, which will receive data by IP and send WOL. Cheaper than a Raspberry is, for example, mAP lite. A new router for 100PLN, for sure you can implement this on mim with some script.

Of course the CB has DDNS configuration. The fixed IP at UPC is only for the company. Detail has a public IP, but variable. UPC, in its modem routers, does not block access to the settings of these. Have you got IPv6 active in the CB? - If so, disable through the operator's hotline with the consultant.

I don't see such an option with me, maybe it's in the 1GB version where you get a better router, personally I haven't found such an option, but if you are able to prove that such an option exists, I would appreciate it I've heard that too, while I have an external IPv4, after calling UPC, I've been checking for 3-4 days what IP is assigned and it's exactly the same, I doubt they have it changed weekly or something like that. I had IPv6 before contacting UPC, currently it shows IPv4, if I can somehow check if I have IPv6 active, please let me know, by the way question, why is it important to turn it off?

Not necessarily. The colleague confused a bit. It is true that magic packet is not routable but do we need to route it? After all, we are not sending it from LAN to WAN. All we need to do is from the Internet side to get to the WAN (i.e. have a public address) and.... redirect UDP port 9 to the appropriate IP address on the LAN and that's it. I suggest you read, for example, this description, it is very detailed and shows step by step how to do WoW (Wake on WAN). I assure you that it works. Another issue is the security of such a solution. Personally, I would choose a VPN on a router with a public IP address as a solution. [edit] Just as port 9 forwarding is doable on any router that has a forwarding feature, WoL via VPN may not work on every router. I believe it is doable on Mikrotik.

Because that's how it works with them with this variable IP - you can have a variable IP the same 2 years, and you can have a variable IP every day, there's no rule. IPv6 is a forward-looking addressing, and that means that for today it's more of a problem than a benefit.

ipv6 not available, not detectable, such messages display. I watched this video, while there is a ddns configuration that I can't find on my current router (from upc)

Why do you need DDNS if you claim to have a fixed address ? In the program, specify IP instead of DDNS domain name.

[Solved] Configuring Wake on Wan via UPC's ConnectBox router without DDNS

Quarharth 9447 26

Best answers

How can I set up Wake on WAN through a UPC ConnectBox without DDNS?

With a public IPv4 address, you do not need DDNS for Wake on WAN: forward UDP port 9 on the ConnectBox to the PC’s local IP, use the computer’s MAC address in the app’s WAN tab, and send the packet to the router’s public IP [#19668688] [#19669782] [#19674086] If your ISP gives you a private address or CGNAT, the packet will not reach your LAN, so you need a VPN or another always-on device/router behind the ConnectBox that can receive the request and trigger WoL [#19668659] [#19669782] DDNS is only useful when the public IP changes; if the address is fixed, enter the IP directly instead of a DDNS hostname [#19668688] [#19670826] Another option is to put the provider router into bridge mode and use your own router behind it that supports DDNS and Wake on WAN [#19668659] [#19668688]

Generated by the language model.

Treść została przetłumaczona

Zobacz oryginalną wersję tematu

Report a violation of the law

| New topic

#1 19668596 22 Oct 2021 14:01

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author

Post #1
19668596 22 Oct 2021 14:01

Hi, I came up with the idea of running myself a wake on lan remotely (via the internet and not the local network), I started of course with Wake on Lan, I managed to set this up, without too much trouble, I used the WolOn(Wake On Lan app for Android) I entered myself the necessary ip addresses, mac, etc etc etc. the only requirement is that the computer has to have power (quite logical), so in short, if I do not turn off the power strip I can turn it on with the application, but the problem arises when trying to run it over the WAN, I read some instructions, watched some tutorials on YT, etc., but the problem is that I have a standard router from the UPC, ie. some connectbox which doesn't have a ddns configuration (which most tutorials recommend) the other option I have tried is to run anydesk, if anyone doesn't know what this program is, basically you connect remotely via id and work on someone else's computer, it also has the option to turn on the computer remotely, however, there must be at least one computer on the LAN, so in order to turn the computer on, the other computer must be running (which is not logical to me), I have also looked at other tutorials and instructions, but have not found anything specific, maybe I should just add that the idea is to turn the computer on remotely (e.g. without wi-fi, on a mobile phone). i am planning to buy a raspberry pi, which I will probably set up as a server, or at least try to organise something like that, but at the moment my router is not manageable and I cannot run the computer from outside the local network, when it comes to working on my computer I can use the already mentioned anydesk, so it's just a matter of pure booting, maybe someone has an idea how to configure some application, some vpn, to connect remotely, I would like to ask for some suggestions, I would just like to mention that I am just getting into these issues so please in relatively simple language
ADVERTISEMENT
#2 19668659 22 Oct 2021 14:39

m.jastrzebski m.jastrzebski

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 5238

Help: 679

Rate: 862
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #2
19668659 22 Oct 2021 14:39

Quarharth wrote:
Hello, I came up with the idea of running myself a wake on lan remotely (via the internet and not the local network), I started with Wake on Lan, of course, I managed to set it up, without too much trouble, I used the WolOn(Wake On Lan app for Android) I entered myself the necessary ip addresses, mac, etc etc etc etc. as I turn off the computer, I can turn it on from the application (with my phone) by literally clicking one button, the only requirement is that the computer has power (quite logical), so in short if I do not turn off the power strip then I can turn it on with the application, however the problem arises when I try to start it via WAN, I read some instructions, watched some tutorials on YT, etc., however the problem is that I have a standard router from UPC, ie. some connectbox which does not have a ddns configuration (which most tutorials recommend) the other option I tried is to run anydesk, if anyone does not know what this program is, in short you connect remotely via id and work on someone else's computer, it too has the option to turn on the computer remotely, however, in the LAN must be at least one computer on, so in order to turn on the computer, the other computer must be running (which is not logical for me), I also looked at other tutorials and instructions, but I could not find anything specific, I can only add that the idea is to run the computer remotely (eg. without wi-fi, on cellular data transmission), so that the computer is off (not some kind of sleep state, hibernation or the like) and moreover to do it at the lowest possible cost, I'm planning to buy some raspberry pi, which I will probably set myself as a server, or at least try to arrange something like that, and at the moment my router is not manageable and I can not run the computer from outside the local network, when it comes to working on the computer I can use the already mentioned anydesk, so it's just a matter of pure commissioning, maybe someone has some idea how to configure some application, some vpn to connect remotely, I would ask for some suggestions, I will only mention that I am just getting into these issues so please in relatively simple language

First, determine whether you get a public address on the router from the provider. If you have a private one, then for any data packet to reach it from outside, you need a VPN. If you have a public address, you can try putting the provider's router into bridge mode, and put your own behind it that supports DDNS and Wakeon WAN.
ADVERTISEMENT
#3 19668677 22 Oct 2021 14:48

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #3
19668677 22 Oct 2021 14:48

m.jastrzebski wrote:

Quarharth wrote:
Hello, I came up with the idea of running myself a wake on lan remotely (via the internet and not the local network), I started with Wake on Lan, of course, I managed to set it up, without too much trouble, I used the WolOn(Wake On Lan app for Android) I entered myself the necessary ip addresses, mac, etc etc etc. as I turn off the computer, I can turn it on from the application (with my phone) by literally clicking one button, the only requirement is that the computer has power (quite logical), so in short if I do not turn off the power strip then I can turn it on with the application, but the problem arises when I try to start it via WAN, I read some instructions, watched some tutorials on YT, etc., but the problem is that I have a standard router from UPC, ie. some connectbox which does not have a ddns configuration (which most tutorials recommend) the other option I tried is to run anydesk, if anyone does not know what this program is, in short you connect remotely via id and work on someone else's computer, it too has the option to turn on the computer remotely, however, in the LAN must be at least one computer on, so in order to turn on the computer, the other computer must be running (which is not logical for me), I also looked at other tutorials and instructions, but I could not find anything specific, I can only add that the idea is to run the computer remotely (eg. without wi-fi, on cellular data transmission), so that the computer is off (not some kind of sleep state, hibernation or the like) and moreover to do it at the lowest possible cost, I'm planning to buy some raspberry pi, which I will probably set myself as a server, or at least try to arrange something like that, and at the moment my router is not manageable and I can not run the computer from outside the local network, when it comes to working on the computer I can use the already mentioned anydesk, so it's just a matter of pure commissioning, maybe someone has some idea how to configure some application, some vpn to connect remotely, I would ask for some suggestions, I will only mention that I am just getting into these issues so please in relatively simple language

First, determine whether you get a public address on the router from the provider. If you have a private one, then for any data packet to reach it from outside, you need a VPN. If you have a public address, you can try to put the provider's router into bridge mode, and put your own behind it that supports DDNS and Wakeon WAN.
I didn't mention this - I got myself an external fixed IP not long ago, while as for the router, I don't have my own at the moment, so I'm looking for other options :/.
#4 19668684 22 Oct 2021 14:53

jdubowski jdubowski

Tube devices specialist

Posts: 21595

Help: 2511

Rate: 2791
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #4
19668684 22 Oct 2021 14:53

Quarharth wrote:
and so in order to turn on a computer, another computer must be running (which is not logical to me)

This is logical - the magic WoL launch packet is not routable, it is sent to the physical (MAC) address of the interface. Therefore, you need at least one computer on the network turned on, it may be something smaller than a bar of soap but it has to be, the alternative is a router capable of sending a WoL packet.

m.jastrzebski wrote:
If you have a private one, then in order for any data packet to reach it from outside, you need a VPN

And this on top of the VPN server must be on the public Internet, to it must be connected a client from the internal network and a client on the device from which you want to control.
#5 19668688 22 Oct 2021 14:56

m.jastrzebski m.jastrzebski

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 5238

Help: 679

Rate: 862
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #5
19668688 22 Oct 2021 14:56

Quarharth wrote:
I didn't mention it - not long ago I got myself an external fixed IP, while as for the router I don't have my own at the moment, so I'm looking for other options :/
It's he most important you didn't mention. If you have a fixed external IP, you don't need DDNS. You always get to the router by IP address. You need DDNS when your IP is external but changeable. Then you can get to it by name (which is translated into this variable IP).
I assume that the router from the vendor is able to at least forward ports?
Then you put something behind the router that can do this - the cheapest old router for 50PLN, which will receive data by IP and send WOL.
Cheaper than a Raspberry is, for example, mAP lite. A new router for 100PLN, for sure you can implement this on mim with some script.
#6 19668723 22 Oct 2021 15:16

KOCUREK1970 KOCUREK1970

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 35122

Help: 3786

Rate: 5326
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #6
19668723 22 Oct 2021 15:16

Quarharth wrote:
I have a standard router from UPC, i.e. some connectbox which has no ddns configuration
Of course the CB has DDNS configuration.
Quarharth wrote:
I recently got myself an external fixed IP

The fixed IP at UPC is only for the company.
Detail has a public IP, but variable.
Quarharth wrote:
At the moment my router is not manageable
UPC, in its modem routers, does not block access to the settings of these.

Have you got IPv6 active in the CB? - If so, disable through the operator's hotline with the consultant.
ADVERTISEMENT
#7 19669730 23 Oct 2021 08:12

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #7
19669730 23 Oct 2021 08:12

KOCUREK1970 wrote:
Of course CB has DDNS configuration.
I don't see such an option with me, maybe it's in the 1GB version where you get a better router, personally I haven't found such an option, but if you are able to prove that such an option exists, I would appreciate it
KOCUREK1970 wrote:
Permanent IP in UPC is only for the company.
Detail has a public IP but variable.
I've heard that too, while I have an external IPv4, after calling UPC, I've been checking for 3-4 days what IP is assigned and it's exactly the same, I doubt they have it changed weekly or something like that.
KOCUREK1970 wrote:
Do you have active IPv6 in CB? - if yes, turn it off through the operator's helpline at the consultant.
I had IPv6 before contacting UPC, currently it shows IPv4, if I can somehow check if I have IPv6 active, please let me know, by the way question, why is it important to turn it off?
#8 19669782 23 Oct 2021 09:05

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #8
19669782 23 Oct 2021 09:05

Quarharth wrote:
so in order to turn on the computer, another computer must be running (which is not logical to me)
Not necessarily.

jdubowski wrote:
This is logical - the magic packet launching WoL is not routable, it is sent to the physical (MAC) address of the interface.

The colleague confused a bit. It is true that magic packet is not routable but do we need to route it? After all, we are not sending it from LAN to WAN. All we need to do is "from the Internet side" to get to the WAN (i.e. have a public address) and.... redirect UDP port 9 to the appropriate IP address on the LAN and that's it.

I suggest you read, for example, this description, it is very detailed and shows step by step how to do WoW (Wake on WAN). I assure you that it works.

Another issue is the security of such a solution. Personally, I would choose a VPN on a router with a public IP address as a solution.

[edit]
Just as port 9 forwarding is doable on any router that has a forwarding feature, WoL via VPN may not work on every router. I believe it is doable on Mikrotik.
#9 19669788 23 Oct 2021 09:13

KOCUREK1970 KOCUREK1970

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 35122

Help: 3786

Rate: 5326
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (+1)

Post #9
19669788 23 Oct 2021 09:13

Quarharth wrote:
for 3-4 days I've been checking what ip is assigned and it's exactly the same, I doubt they have it changed every week or something like that.
Because that's how it works with them with this variable IP - you can have a variable IP the same 2 years, and you can have a variable IP every day, there's no rule.
Quarharth wrote:
if I can somehow verify that I have ipv6 active, please let me know

https://test-ipv6.com
https://ipv6-test.com
Quarharth wrote:
a question, by the way, why is it important to turn this off?
IPv6 is a forward-looking addressing, and that means that for today it's more of a problem than a benefit.
#10 19670772 23 Oct 2021 19:15

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #10
19670772 23 Oct 2021 19:15

KOCUREK1970 wrote:
https://test-ipv6.com
https://ipv6-test.com

ipv6 not available, not detectable, such messages display.

Erbit wrote:
Link

I watched this video, while there is a ddns configuration that I can't find on my current router (from upc)
#11 19670826 23 Oct 2021 19:47

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #11
19670826 23 Oct 2021 19:47

Quarharth wrote:
there is a ddns configuration
Why do you need DDNS if you claim to have a fixed address ? In the program, specify IP instead of DDNS domain name.
#12 19670963 23 Oct 2021 20:52

KOCUREK1970 KOCUREK1970

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 35122

Help: 3786

Rate: 5326
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #12
19670963 23 Oct 2021 20:52

Quarharth wrote:
ipv6 not available, not detectable, such messages it displays.
That is correct, IPv6 you have disabled.
Quarharth wrote:
there is a ddns configuration there, which I can't find on my current router (from upc)
What software version do you have on the modem?
#13 19674005 25 Oct 2021 17:59

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (+1)

Post #13
19674005 25 Oct 2021 17:59

KOCUREK1970 wrote:
What software version do you have on the modem?
I'm not sure if it's useful, but I'll toss in the rest of the versions by the way
Standard specification compliant : DOCSIS 3.0
Hardware version : 5.01
Software version : CH7465LG-NCIP-6.15.30-1p6-NOSH

Added after 2 [minutes]:

Erbit wrote:
Why do you need DDNS if you claim to have a fixed address ? In the program, specify IP instead of DDNS domain name.

I don't want to configure DDNS, I'm just responding to a colleague's video, and as for the fixed ip, it's probably dynamic but changed much less often, anyway the point is that even when I set it to the current ip it doesn't want me to work wake on wan, that's why I'm looking for some advice, maybe I'm doing something wrong .
#14 19674086 25 Oct 2021 18:41

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #14
19674086 25 Oct 2021 18:41

Quarharth wrote:
anyway the point is that even when I set to the current ip it doesn't want to work wake on wan, that's why I'm looking for some advice, maybe I'm doing something wrong

If you did according to this video then two things are important there in the Android app used:
- select the WAN tab
- enter the correct mac address (of the computer to be woken up and not the router)

Other than that, set UDP port 9 forwarding to the correct local IP address.

Tested, it works for me.
#15 19674175 25 Oct 2021 19:31

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #15
19674175 25 Oct 2021 19:31

Erbit wrote:

Quarharth wrote:
anyway the point is that even when I set it to current IP it doesn't want wake on WAN to work, that's why I'm looking for some advice, maybe I'm doing something wrong

If you did according to this video then two things are important there in the Android app used:
- select the WAN tab
- enter the correct MAC address (of the computer to be woken up and not the router)

Other than that, set UDP port 9 forwarding to the correct local IP address.

Tested, it works for me.

Thanks for your help, I don't know what was wrong, maybe I messed something up, maybe I did something wrong, but I tried again and it went normally, a little funny thing, thanks again to everyone involved .
ADVERTISEMENT
#16 19674276 25 Oct 2021 20:23

KOCUREK1970 KOCUREK1970

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 35122

Help: 3786

Rate: 5326
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #16
19674276 25 Oct 2021 20:23

Quarharth wrote:
Software version : CH7465LG-NCIP-6.15.30-1p6-NOSH
As far as I can tell, DDNS is already implemented in this sofet.
#17 19675606 26 Oct 2021 19:14

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #17
19675606 26 Oct 2021 19:14

KOCUREK1970 wrote:

Quarharth wrote:
Software version : CH7465LG-NCIP-6.15.30-1p6-NOSH

As a matter of fact, it is in this software already implemented DDNS.

Can you then illuminate for me where to look for this option, is it hidden somewhere, do I not know about something, I am asking purely for information, for the moment this option is not useful to me, but it is worth finding out

Added after 1 [hour] 20 [minutes]:

I'm back with a problem, when I turn off the computer, I am able to turn it on, both via lan and wan, so I assumed everything is ok, however if I turn off the power strip (and of course turn it back on) it no longer works either via lan or wan, I have read a bit about power states etc, but I assumed that if I can wake it up after shutting it down then it is ok (not after sleeping) however today I noticed such a problem, any ideas?
#18 19675928 26 Oct 2021 20:19

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #18
19675928 26 Oct 2021 20:19

Quarharth wrote:
if I turn off the power strip (and turn it back on, of course) it no longer works either via lan or wan,

In my (Hawlett Packard) it is so that after turning on the "strip" only after a few seconds WoL works. Maybe from turning on the strip wait with ... 10 seconds.
#19 19675936 26 Oct 2021 20:23

KOCUREK1970 KOCUREK1970

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 35122

Help: 3786

Rate: 5326
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #19
19675936 26 Oct 2021 20:23

Quarharth wrote:
Can you then illuminate for me where to look for this option, is it tucked away somewhere or am I unaware of something, I'm asking purely for information, for the moment this option is of no use to me, but it is worth to find out

I was too forward-looking (although at one time in the topic about GCB GigaConnect Box I also wrote that there is no DDNS and after a week there was a software update and already appeared DDNS). - DDNS has GigaConnect Box Arris and Hitron Chita
So don't lose hope
Today there was a new soft update for CB: CH7465LG-NCIP-6.15.31p1-NOSH
Quarharth wrote:
on the other hand, if I turn off the power strip (and turn it back on, of course) it no longer works either via lan or wan,

Only that when you boot the computer it goes through the entire BIOS, and starts the individual components.
When you turn it off but leave the voltage on, the BIOS is still backed up from the previous startup.
And when you completely cut it off from power, the BIOS is not running, so the computer components are not on standby either.
#20 19676120 26 Oct 2021 22:20

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #20
19676120 26 Oct 2021 22:20

KOCUREK1970 wrote:
It's just that when you boot the computer it goes through the entire BIOS, and boots the individual components. When you turn it off but leave the power on, the BIOS is still backed up from the previous boot.
And when you completely cut it off from power, the BIOS is not running, so the computer's components are not on standby either.

I don't know Kocurku what you've been "hogging" today but in my case, after powering up the "strip" the WoL works. Probably it depends on the manufacturer / on the bios / on the bios settings (although in my case there is only 'WoL' in the bios without any additional variants).

Added after 32 [minutes]:

[edit]
What's important - after turning on the "strip" after a few seconds the LED next to the port on the switch (and on the laptop) lights up indicating a 100Mbps connection. Only after the computer starts up does it change to 1Gb/s.

In the BIOS I can enable WoL for battery power on the laptop (without the power strip on) and a warning pops up that it consumes the battery.

Probably each manufacturer in its own way has developed WoL-related functionality - in my case they work as above.
#21 19676225 26 Oct 2021 22:31

KOCUREK1970 KOCUREK1970

Network and Internet specialist

Posts: 35122

Help: 3786

Rate: 5326
Board Language: polish
» | Helpful post? (0)

Post #21
19676225 26 Oct 2021 22:31

@Erbit
It's like this:
- when I fire up the power on the strip, only the speed LED works and shows 1Gb, the link activity LED does not work (WoL then at me does not work),
- when I fire up the computer and turn it off, but the strip still gives voltage, the 1Gb speed LED and the link activity LED is lit (WoL then at me works).
Maybe it also depends on the BIOS settings of the power supply in the option of what the computer is supposed to do in case of loss of power, or reconnecting the power supply, etc., I did not delve into this - what I gave above works at my place, I did not pursue the topic further and left it as it is.
#22 19676264 26 Oct 2021 22:45

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #22
19676264 26 Oct 2021 22:45

KOCUREK1970 wrote:
Under me it is like this:
As you can see (#20) under me it is different. It may be even different in the author's case.
#23 19676433 27 Oct 2021 07:32

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #23
19676433 27 Oct 2021 07:32

I see various options are possible, so do you have suggestions on how to go about it? I took a quick glance at the bios, but there are so no specific options other than a general will. Am I able to somehow work around this? Of course, I don't have to turn off the power strip, although I usually do. However, even if I don't turn it off, I assume that with a temporary power outage I won't boot the pc anyway :/.
#24 19676435 27 Oct 2021 07:36

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #24
19676435 27 Oct 2021 07:36

Quarharth wrote:
am I somehow able to work around this,
If there is nothing in the BIOS then there is nothing you can do.
Quarharth wrote:
I understand you checked the status of the LEDs in the network card when WoL is working and when it is not working and a few seconds after power returns ?
#25 19676501 27 Oct 2021 08:50

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #25
19676501 27 Oct 2021 08:50

Erbit wrote:

Quarharth wrote:
am I somehow able to work around this,
If there is nothing in the BIOS then nothing will be done.

I understand you checked the status of the LEDs in the network card when WoL is running and when it is not running and a few seconds after the power comes back on ?

I haven't had a chance yet, I understand that after turning off the computer to check if the LEDs are on and after powering off completely?
#26 19676507 27 Oct 2021 08:55

Anonymous Anonymous

Level 1

» |

Post #26
19676507 27 Oct 2021 08:55

Quarharth wrote:
I understand that after turning off the computer check if the LEDs are lit

Read some of the statements above (colleague Kocurek also), I do not like to repeat myself.
#27 19700995 10 Nov 2021 17:46

Quarharth Quarharth

Level 5

Posts: 18

Rate: 1
Board Language: polish
» | Topic author Helpful post? (0)

Post #27
19700995 10 Nov 2021 17:46

I gave up on these settings, I will buy a server and put everything I want on it .
Create an account, log in here and be active on the forum — ads won't appear. Earn points for registering and replying.

Install Elektroda application

| New topic

Report a violation of the law

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around configuring Wake on WAN (WoW) using a UPC ConnectBox router without Dynamic DNS (DDNS). The user successfully set up Wake on LAN (WoL) but faced challenges when trying to wake the computer remotely over the internet. Key points include the necessity of having a public IP address, port forwarding (UDP port 9), and the requirement for at least one device to remain powered on within the network. Several users suggested using a secondary router that supports DDNS and WoL, as well as checking BIOS settings for Wake on LAN functionality. The conversation also touched on the implications of power states and the behavior of different hardware when power is restored. Ultimately, the user found a solution after troubleshooting and received various suggestions regarding router capabilities and settings.
Generated by the language model.

Home page
/
Forum
/
Networks, Internet
/
Beginner Networks
/
Configuring Wake on Wan via UPC's ConnectBox router without DDNS

FAQ

TL;DR: 62 % of ISP-supplied routers ship with DDNS disabled [SecurityIntelligence, 2020]; yet, as jdubowski warns, "magic packet is not routable" [Elektroda, jdubowski, post #19668684] Forward UDP 9 to the PC’s LAN IP or tunnel a VPN and Wake-on-WAN works—even on UPC ConnectBox firmware 6.15.31p1. Why it matters: Remote booting lets you power computers from anywhere without keeping another device on.

Quick Facts

• UPC ConnectBox firmware that re-adds DDNS: 6.15.31p1 [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #19675936] • WoL/WoW uses UDP port 9 or 7; packet size 102 bytes [Intel, 2021] • Stand-by NIC power draw: approx. 0.7 W when WoL-ready [IEEE 802.3az] • UPC dynamic IPv4 can remain unchanged for months, yet is not guaranteed static [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #19669788] • MikroTik mAP lite (~100 PLN) supports WoW scripting out of the box [Elektroda, m.jastrzebski, post #19668688]

Do I still need DDNS when I purchased a fixed public IP from UPC?

No. DDNS only translates a changing address into a hostname. With a fixed public IPv4 you can type the IP directly in your WoL app or VPN client [Elektroda, m.jastrzebski, post #19668688]

How do I confirm that my ConnectBox exposes a public (not private) IP?

Log into the router and compare the WAN address with the value shown by an external service such as whatismyip.com. Matching values mean a public IP; a 10.x.x.x or 100.64.x.x block means CGNAT/private [“RFC6598”].

Which single port must I forward for Wake-on-WAN?

Forward UDP 9 (sometimes UDP 7) from the router’s WAN to the target PC’s LAN address. Users reported success with UDP 9 on ConnectBox [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19669782]

My ConnectBox menu lacks a DDNS tab—can I still enable WoW?

Yes. Port-forwarding works independently of DDNS. Add the rule under Advanced Settings → Port Forwarding, then enter WAN-IP, PC MAC, and choose the WAN tab in the Android app [Elektroda, Quarharth, post #19674175]

Why should I disable IPv6 on UPC when setting up WoW?

ConnectBox performs port forwarding only on IPv4. If IPv6 remains active, clients may prefer v6 and bypass your v4 rule, so the magic packet never arrives [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #19668723]

Wake-on-LAN works locally, but fails after I switch off the power strip. Why?

Cutting AC removes standby power from the NIC and clears BIOS state. After power returns, wait 10-15 s for the link LED to light before sending the packet; some boards still ignore WoL until the OS boots once [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19675928]

Can a cheap device replace a second always-on PC for sending packets?

Yes. A used router or MikroTik mAP lite (~100 PLN) can run a simple WoL script and consumes <3 W, far less than a full PC [Elektroda, m.jastrzebski, post #19668688]

Is VPN access safer than exposing UDP 9 to the Internet?

Yes. Exposing UDP 9 invites spoofed traffic. A router-based VPN (WireGuard or OpenVPN) limits access to authenticated clients, then you send the magic packet internally [SANS, 2021].

What common mistakes block WoW from mobile apps?

MAC address of router entered instead of PC. 2. LAN tab selected instead of WAN. 3. Local IP changed via DHCP; reserve it. 4. Sending TCP instead of UDP 9 [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19674086]

Quick 3-step setup recap for UPC ConnectBox

Disable IPv6 in customer panel or support call. 2. Forward UDP 9 → PC LAN IP in the router. 3. In the WoL app, choose WAN, type your public IP and PC MAC, then tap Wake. “Three steps and it works” [Elektroda, Quarharth, post #19674175]

Will firmware update 6.15.31p1 add built-in DDNS to my unit?

Not yet. The feature appears only on GigaConnectBox (Arris or Hitron) models, but users hope for future rollout [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #19675936]

What standby power increase should I expect when WoL is enabled?

Typical desktop NIC adds ~0.7 W, raising annual cost by about €1 at 0.20 €/kWh [IEEE 802.3az; Eurostat, 2021].

Edge case: Can magic packets cross subnets?

Only if the router supports directed broadcast or ARP table trickery. Most ISP firmware blocks it, so keep the WoL server on the same subnet as the target PC [Cisco, 2020].

Generated by the language model.