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Switching UPC Connect Box to Bridge Mode & Replacing with Own Router: Fiber Optic Connection

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  • #1 20091623
    Anonymous
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    #2 20091665
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    It cannot be replaced, unofficially. Bridge mode is possible. Public address too, but dynamic. Only for companies.
    https://pytania.upc.pl/?q=
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    #3 20091668
    trivial1
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    ad1. CB can be put in bridge mode
    ad2. I don't know about their light, maybe support knows them
    Ad.3 IP you get a public variable, at least on cable TV it is
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  • #6 20094325
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Erbit wrote:
    bridge case - what is the way to authorize your own router?

    Officially, it is not possible to connect your own router and its authorization at all.
    Unofficially, I came across maybe 2 times some information that someone had succeeded, but when others asked about this method, they never received a specific answer. They didn't get any response at all.
    Of course, I'm talking here all the time about a full fiber optic service.

    The problem here is that depending on who laid the fiber optic structure: Nexera, Fiberhost, etc., you get an ONT dedicated to this fiber network, and only you can connect the UPCet Compal to this, which you will receive from the operator.
    When you connect it together, Compal downloads the appropriate config and makes it a set - that is, authorization and logging into the UPC network takes place.
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  • #8 20094432
    trivial1
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    Because their devices are crap. And people put their hardware with better FW, VPN, QoS and all the rest.
  • #9 20094451
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Erbit wrote:
    What is bridge mode for?

    Maybe we don't understand each other - you want to completely throw their Compal out of their optical fiber.
    And with bridge mode it looks like this: ONT->Compal with bridge mode->your own router.
    Bridge mode and your own router, works great in their DOCSIS, there are absolutely no restrictions - you turn on bridge mode and connect whatever you want.
    trivial1 wrote:
    Because their devices are crap. And people put their hardware with better FW, VPN, QoS and all the rest.

    What equipment a given operator offers is not decided by customers, but by the accountant - the website, e-mail and FB should work, the rest is of no interest to anyone, and it should cost no more than $30 in bulk.
  • #10 20094480
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  • #11 20094645
    trivial1
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    i.e. I hasten to explain ;)
    I just meant that I set the bridge on CB, and behind it I have my router (I have an ultrasound). Not that he is physically absent.
    Unfortunately, he sits with everything, but you know, all traffic goes to the ultrasound
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  • #13 20108880
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @Erbit
    Installers are external companies, they teach them how to install and connect it - that's all.

    Since the operator's hotline says so (no bridge mode), I see no reason not to believe them.
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  • #15 20109201
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @Erbit
    In some other topic (probably about the Orange fiber), it also turned out that they used to give ONT and FB3 and people replaced it with their own routers (the bridge mode on FB was also there) - the bridge mode was removed (sic!) and they went even further , now they only give FB6 and they have a problem with poisoning/customer problems.
    Unification, simpler management, easier to diagnose a hardware problem - that is, only benefits for the operator.
    If you asked where the customer is in all this, I explain that he is on the invoice :D

    Supposedly UPC Polska took over PLAY, but even though it's "supposedly" one organism, they STILL have separate promotions, separate packages, they also have different equipment, completely different prices.

    Maybe something will change in this matter, when PLAY finally and completely "enters" UPC Polska - until this happens (integration, takeover of technology, equipment, management, etc.), it will be more of a creep than development.
    Which is not surprising, UPC Polska is no longer on a financial settlement with UPC America (it was subordinated to UPC Polska there), the Americans are not going to spend even a penny on anything at UPC Polska.
    And PLAY, due to the fact that it cost money for this, also does not intend to spend money (if it does not have to) on ad hoc activities - that is, their goal is to squeeze lemon out of this marriage.

    In the past, UPC Polska, on average, every 3, 4 months released a new soft for their newer modem routers - Compal (or ConnectBox) already has almost (if not already) EOL status, their GCB (or GigaConnectBox) used to give only 1Gb to the net and now, it is already going to the 750Mb net (and there are cases that people get it even to the 300Mb net) and also it has not received a new soft for several months.
    Why am I writing about all this, money dear sir, it's about money - new functionality is a new soft (or an overlay on the old one), and it all costs money.
    Someone has to write this soft, someone that is Hindi Punjab (as I say it). And this soft/provisioning needs to be prepared for a given fiber operator.
    On the other hand, it seems so simple to us (do the bridge mode) - but in reality it takes a few weeks of writing the software, then fixes, then internal tests, then tests on a "selected" group of clients and only then the implementation of the software on the entire network.
    It all takes time and costs money and no one wants to spend money on it.

    As for the hotline and the technical department - it always works so that the head has no idea what the legs are doing, and the legs don't even know where to go.
    Nothing will surprise me anymore, because you will connect with another technician, with another first line, and it will turn out that it's all sewn with thick threads.
    And for not pushing IPv6 to everyone (and not informing the client about it), I would give them legs from the "corpus" :D he snatched.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the possibility of switching the UPC Connect Box to bridge mode and replacing it with a personal router in a fiber optic connection setup. Users express conflicting information regarding the official ability to enable bridge mode and replace the router. Some responses confirm that bridge mode is possible, while others state that replacing the router is not officially supported. The need for a public IP address is also discussed, with indications that dynamic public addresses are available, primarily for business accounts. Users share experiences with UPC's customer support, highlighting inconsistencies in the information provided. The conversation emphasizes the technical challenges of authorizing personal routers and the limitations imposed by UPC's equipment and configurations.
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