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Orange fiber optic 600 MB/s, funbox 6, external ont, own Archer VR400 router

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  • #1 20203004
    Anmitsu
    Level 9  
    Hello.
    A simple puzzle (probably), I would like to know how (and if it is even possible) I can connect my own router (Archer VR400 v3) to an external ONT from Orange instead of Funbox 6. I tried to do it myself, but I failed and I ran out of ideas, I also looked through other threads on this forum and other forums/sites, but I still couldn't find a clear answer.
    I am interested in completely replacing Funbox 6 with my own router, so that I only have one router connected, but if that is not possible, I would also be content with connecting my own router to the Funbox, so that the Funbox is a kind of "bridge".
    I am asking for help from some kind souls.
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  • #2 20203067
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Anmitsu wrote:
    is it even possible) I can connect my own router (Archer VR400 v3) to an external ONT from orange instead of Funbox 6.

    And did you get a separate ONY and a separate FB6?
    Did you only get FB6?

    Do you also have TV with Orange on this light?
    If not, do you plan to have one someday?
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  • #3 20203131
    Anmitsu
    Level 9  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:

    And did you get a separate ONY and a separate FB6?
    Did you only get FB6?

    I got ONT and funbox 6.
    The ONT is separate, it looks like this:
    Orange fiber optic 600 MB/s, funbox 6, external ont, own Archer VR400 router

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:

    Do you also have TV with Orange on this light?
    If not, do you plan to have one someday?

    I don’t have TV, only the Internet, I probably won’t have TV, I don’t plan to.
  • #4 20203236
    oculars_increasers
    Level 4  
    Have you set up login details using PPPoE? And VLAN 35 for internet access?
  • #5 20203284
    Anmitsu
    Level 9  
    oculars_increasers wrote:
    Have you set up login details using PPPoE? And VLAN 35 for Internet access?

    No, because I don’t know where to get Orange’s login details, as they are apparently downloaded directly from funbox.
    I tried using the old ones but they don’t work.
  • #7 20203379
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Anmitsu wrote:
    (Archer VR400 v3)

    And the speed is 600Mb - unrealistic in my opinion.
    Additionally, the router must support VLANs.
  • #8 20203419
    Anmitsu
    Level 9  
    artaa wrote:
    It’s broken down here:
    https://trzepak.pl/viewtopic.php?t=51177

    I’ve seen this before, so I mean that connecting only your router without a funbox in circulation is definitely impossible?
    This is what the topic in the link shows.

    Added after 1 [minute]:

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    Anmitsu wrote:
    (Archer VR400 v3)

    And the speed is 600Mb - unrealistic in my opinion.
    Additionally, the router must support VLANs.

    Why unrealistic?
    As far as I know, this router has gigabit ports and supports VLAN.
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  • #9 20203425
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Anmitsu wrote:
    As far as I know, this router has gigabit ports

    TPlink C6v2 also has and dies at a volume of 200Mb
    The same TPLink C7 - around 200Mb and death.

    To roll over 600Mb NAT:
    4 cores, 800MHz each,
    2 cores 1.5-2GHz each.

    It will have a processor of at least 1 core around 800MHz - the same as C6v2 and C7.
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  • #10 20203450
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #11 20203455
    Anmitsu
    Level 9  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    Anmitsu wrote:
    As far as I know, this router has gigabit ports

    TPlink C6v2 also has and dies at a volume of 200Mb
    The same TPLink C7 - around 200Mb and death.

    To roll over 600Mb NAT:
    4 cores, 800MHz each,
    2 cores 1.5-2GHz each.

    It will have a processor of at least 1 core around 800MHz - the same as C6v2 and C7.

    Ok, assuming this is true, still, is it possible to connect just your router or not?

    Added after 1 [hour] 8 [minutes]:

    Erbit wrote:
    Anmitsu wrote:
    I`ve seen this before, so I mean that connecting only your router without a funbox in circulation is definitely impossible?
    This is what the topic in the link shows.


    NO. It`s definitely possible.

    There are problems with additional services (mainly TV). The internet itself works without any problems.

    Anmitsu wrote:
    oculars_increasers wrote:
    Have you set up login details using PPPoE? And VLAN 35 for Internet access?

    No, because I don`t know where to get Orange`s login details, as they are apparently downloaded directly from funbox.
    I tried using the old ones but they don`t work.


    You got the deal. The new login and password should be saved there. If you don`t have it (and installers often don`t enter it), please do so here... -> https://www.orange.pl/omnibook/prezentacja-w-nową-moj-orange

    When I asked the technician, he told me that now there is no need to enter the login and password, that now they are downloaded directly from the router.
    Did he lie or just not tell the whole truth if it is as you write?
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    #12 20203635
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    Everything is possible. Orange probably has the most liberal policy of the large operators in this matter.

    Anmitsu wrote:
    When I asked the technician, he told me that now there is no need to enter the login and password, that now they are downloaded directly from the router.
    Did he lie or just not tell the whole truth if it is as you write?

    He spoke the truth. But this only applies to FB, which downloads data automatically from the operator. You enter the data into your own router.

    You do this
    1. You call the hotline and ask for PPPoE login details. Alternatively, you log in to the My Orange application and after confirming the SMS, you have a tab with PPPoE data
    2. You configure your router
    a. PPPoE login
    b. PPPoE password
    c. set VLAN to 35
    Everything works. Nothing has changed. I configure it myself so often and the last time I did it was 2 weeks ago. Additionally, you can make a full dual stack, but I won`t tell you how to do it because you still have problems with the basics.

    Another thing is that you want to replace a really good router, such as FB, with some toys.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #13 20203678
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #14 20203877
    oculars_increasers
    Level 4  
    Log in to orange.pl, generate a new connection password. You will then receive it via SMS along with your login. You then enter this data in the router's WAN settings. At the same time, you configure the VLAN in the IPTV tab - Internet VLAN ID 35, priority 0, 802.1Q TAG selected. It can't be simpler.
  • #15 20203881
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @Anmitsu
    Here`s a little warning for the author - if you connect your own router and anything stops working, you don`t even need to call the operator.
  • #16 20205012
    Anmitsu
    Level 9  
    This is one more thing, because I see some people writing that there is no point in replacing Funbox with a "worse" router.
    So, assuming that I would succeed, does it make sense to change Funbox 6 to Archer VR400 v3, keeping in mind the quality of the cable connection?
  • #17 20205032
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Anmitsu wrote:
    Is there any point in changing Funbox 6 to Archer VR400 v3, keeping in mind the quality of the cable connection?

    Let`s count:
    FB6 - cable and wifi 600Mb.
    TPLink - via cable and wifi maybe 200Mb.
    I do not know...
  • #18 20205921
    Anmitsu
    Level 9  
    Thank you all for your help, I have no more problems/questions.
    Can be closed.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around connecting a personal router, the Archer VR400 v3, to an external ONT provided by Orange, instead of using the Funbox 6. The user seeks to replace the Funbox entirely or use it as a bridge. Responses indicate that it is possible to connect the Archer VR400 by configuring PPPoE login details and setting VLAN 35 for internet access. Users emphasize the need for proper router specifications to handle the 600 MB/s speed, with some cautioning that the Archer VR400 may not perform as well as the Funbox 6. The process involves obtaining login credentials from Orange and configuring the router accordingly.
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