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Which manufacturer of cordless power tools? Makita vs. DeWalt vs. Bosch Professional

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  • #1 20536764
    AndrzejPiasek1986
    Level 2  
    Good afternoon,
    Brief and to the point: from time to time I do extra "renovation" work around the house. I'm fed up with using corded tools (of course, only the cord when handing off) I would like to buy cordless tools from one manufacturer every now and then.

    I have become interested in 4 brands: Makita, DeWalt, Bosch professional, Milwaukee.
    I did a comparison and it turned out that Milwaukee is the most expensive, then Makita, DeWalt, Bosch.
    I can't afford Milwaukee and I don't need such good equipment, so I decided on Makita, DeWalt, and Bosch.
    I have decided on Bosch because it is quite cheap in comparison to Makita and DeWalt, but when I am looking for Bosch spare parts, for example, I have to do some searching or sometimes they are not available. I can find Makita parts without any problems.

    Question: Does Bosch make a cheaper tool and if it breaks down, bye-bye? Isn't it better to go for a Makita and not worry about parts, or maybe I don't know how to look for Bosch parts.

    My summary:
    MAKITA
    No. Name Price
    1. Makita sabre saw DJR189Z PLN 850.00
    2. angle grinder DGA513 PLN 649.00
    3. cordless screwdriver Makita DHP485Z PLN 449.00
    4. impact screwdriver DTD153 479.00 zł
    5. hammer drill Makita DHR202 600.00 zł
    6. lamp DML814 1 350,00 zł
    TOTAL: PLN 4,377.00

    Mil
    No. Name Price
    1. cordless sabre saw Milwaukee 4933478293 875,00 zł
    2. angle grinder Milwaukee 4933451439 899,00 zł
    MILWAUKEE M18 CBLDD-0 drill/driver 690.00 zł
    MILWAUKEE CHAIR DRILLER M18 CBLID-0 500,00 zł
    MILWAUKEE M18 FHX hammer drill 1,359.00 zł
    6. LED M18 SAL2-0 Milwaukee 1 800,00 zł
    TOTAL: 6 123,00 zł

    Dewalt
    No Name Price
    1. DeWalt DCS369N 680,00 zł
    2. angle grinder DCG405N DeWALT 649,00 zł
    3. DeWalt DCD790NT 410,00 zł
    4. Dewalt DCF887N impact screwdriver 437.00 zł
    5 Hammer drill DCH273N 1 050,00 zł
    6. DeWalt DCL079-XJ 1 200,00 zł
    TOTAL: PLN 4 426.00

    Bosh
    No. Name Price
    1. sabre saw GSA 18V-LI C 670.00 zł
    2. BOSCH angle grinder GWS 180-Li 510,00 zł
    3. GSR 18V-28 350,00 zł
    4. GDS 18V-400 BOSCH 600,00 zł
    5. GBH 180-LI BOSCH 700,00 zł
    6. lamp GLI 18V-1900 BOSCH 700,00 zł
    TOTAL: PLN 3,530.00
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  • #2 20536810
    Marksrz
    Level 23  
    Parts for such a Bosh. you certainly won't find but for normal Bosch always even the oldest machines
    https://www.boschtoolservice.com/pl/pl/boschprof/spareparts/search
    The problem is that tools from a particular brand are not all of a satisfactory standard some better and others worse.
    In my opinion cordless tools should be chosen from the same brand so that you do not have to search for batteries and chargers and there are plenty of second hand Bosch and Makita tools.
    you can find several disadvantages for each of the brands mentioned
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  • #3 20536824
    bearq
    Level 39  
    Makita is the same or similar level to DeWalt, some power tools are better here and not which there. With spare parts for Makita there is no problem, for Dewalt a little harder to find. With Bosch even "profesional" give yourself a break, it doesn't even compare to the previous brands.
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  • #4 20536876
    Marksrz
    Level 23  
    bearq wrote:
    for DeWalt a little harder to find. .
    .
    I.e. that you don't know where to look.
  • #5 20536959
    bearq
    Level 39  
    Marksrz wrote:
    bearq wrote:
    for Dewalt a little harder to find. .
    .
    I.e. that you don't know where to look
    .
    What you have written is tantamount to it being harder to find since I have to "know" where to look. For makita I do not need to have this knowledge because
    on a popular auction site when you type in "DeWalt brushes" there are 44 pages, for Makita 100 pages.
    If you type in "DeWalt rotor" we have 7 pages, for Makita we have 63 pages, for "DeWalt stator" we have 2 pages, for Makita 29 pages.
    Of course, this is not a concrete indicator because there may be more Makita power tool models, but the fact remains that Makita parts are easier to find than DeWalt parts. I have both companies in my workshop and I can't fault either of them.
  • #6 20537337
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    bearq wrote:
    Bosch is not even "professional", it does not even compare to previous brands.
    I have been using Bosch 18V for several years and I can not say a bad word about it.
    I have been using a Bosch 18V for a few years now and can't say a bad word and the power tools don't sit on the shelf but are used extensively . I have used Makita and DeWalt but Bosch suits me better - everyone has individual preferences.
    As far as parts are concerned, I have never had a problem with Bosch or Makita parts, so I don't understand how you can write that parts are hard to come by - I don't think you know that there are central services and authorised services where the problem of lack of parts does not occur.
    It is worth looking for opinions not only on the internet.
  • #7 20537723
    AndrzejPiasek1986
    Level 2  
    @Marksrz Thank you for the link. I found all the devices I want to buy there and there are parts for them. Only I see that there is often an electronics module that costs 270zł, I understand that this is now instead of the usual brushes for 15zł?
    @Topolski Mirosław I don't know whether to thank you for your feedback or not, because I've already set my sights on the Makita :D, but if the Bosch also goes fairly well, there are parts for them, why should I give 1000zł more to the Makita. All the devices I wanted to buy without problems I find parts for them (via a link from marksrz) only this electronics module. Do you know if this often breaks down?
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  • #8 20537815
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    AndrzejPiasek1986 wrote:
    only this electronics module. Do you know if this breaks down often?
    .
    Mine have run faultlessly so far and I have the whole 18V series.
    When repairing power tools I have had no such fault, maybe others have?
    On a professional Bosch you have a 3 year warranty once the power tool is registered.
  • #9 20538233
    zdenek_zdenek
    Level 27  
    I have been using Bosch for a dozen years and Makita too, only Makita until last year only 230 volts. Minor breakdowns have happened but very occasionally. Last year I bought a DHS680 chainsaw and an adapter for Bosch batteries and everything works. So if a tool from another company suits you better, you can use it with an adapter.
    Makita parts are cheaper than Bosch parts, and there is no problem with the availability of either brand.

    As for the GWS180Li grinder, it will work like a 700W mains grinder, I have a GWS18V-10 and it works like a kilowatt grinder, but only on 8Ah Procore batteries, on smaller GBA or Procore 4Ah batteries it will work like a 700W max.
  • #10 20538749
    AndrzejPiasek1986
    Level 2  
    Thank you gentlemen for your help. The battery adapters are a very good idea, especially as in my comparison the price of the Makita lamp is almost 2x that of the Bosch. Not taking into account the price of the lamp, the difference is only about 300 zl between Makita and Bosch. I will tentatively take the lamp and sabre saw from Bosch and the rest from Makita. I'm going to take the sabre saw because it's cheaper than the Makita and because I don't use it very often (but if I need to, it's a great machine). Or I'm going to take the whole Bosch because I see the reviews are "good". If I have any questions I will write.
  • #11 20538760
    wada

    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    If you want to buy a Bosch, it is better to visit Lidl and buy a Parkszajs, low price, quality is sometimes better and warranty 3 years, they have a good service, and if something breaks it is not a pity to dispose of it and buy another one, and you will still save, and gain after some time a new, more modern, nice-looking equipment, rather than resuscitate an old one.
    In our company, we use Festools as well as Parkshays, and both are equal in quality and reliability.
    Five years ago I wrote about screwdrivers in the company.
    Which manufacturer of cordless power tools? Makita vs. DeWalt vs. Bosch Professional .

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3372708-60.html#16727504 now there are twice as many of these toys.
    The Bosche from the photo along with the sabre saw, angle grinder have long since landed in the scrap box, the little Makitas are finishing more motors and gears and the Parkshays are going head to head with the Festulas, we still have some DeWalts, but in them the batteries drain too quickly.
  • #12 20539338
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    wada wrote:
    In our company we use Festole as well as Parkshares and one other is not inferior to the other in quality and reliability.

    Col. is making a mockery of himself, but I am not surprised. On the site you can see the quality of Parkside and the availability of parts too.
    Dealing with these power tools on the site you can immediately see the difference , also it is clearly visible in the work.
    You can also see which ones get serviced frequently. Parkside may be for Sunday DIY at home but not for a company where the work is hard. Many new businesses ( roofing, carpentry. renovation and construction etc) have very quickly cured themselves of Parkside.
    I wonder if other power tool services don't see a difference in the quality of these machines either - I know ( from those working together) that the feedback is far from that of Col.
  • #13 20539388
    zdenek_zdenek
    Level 27  
    Well Parkside I have a few tools too and would not recommend. Mid-range kitayan quality. The black ones still if you can but not all of them. The black Parkside 60Nm screwdriver is not the same as the Bosch GSR18V-60, although on paper seemingly the same. The green Parkside is like going back to the Bosch of at least 15 if not 20 years ago.
    The Parkside on the same battery i.e. same claimed capacity will do about 25-30% less than the Bosch.
  • #14 20543610
    AndrzejPiasek1986
    Level 2  
    I can't hide the fact that for a while I was considering Parkside from the performance series. However, after reading about: problems with the sabre saw, problems with the low temperature (can be done but then you lose the warranty) and the hammer drill breaking down frequently and a few more e.g. we send the equipment to the warranty, they can't fix it they give the money back, 2 devices there is nowhere to buy .... There are too many downsides. I decided it was probably better not to take it into account.
  • #15 20705983
    szalony123
    Level 12  
    The author has probably made a purchase a long time ago, but let me add my three cents. In our country, Makita or Bosch are probably the most favorable. However, if you read on the Internet, it is said that Bosch batteries are not the best, but maybe it is just a random coincidence? As for the Makita prices that have been mentioned here, you can always look for a cheaper price and you don't necessarily have to take the top models. E.g. the DJR189Z sabre saw is the latest model, you can buy an older DJR187 or even a second hand one of this model if you don't use it often, the disadvantage is its size unfortunately - it is ambidextrous :( . The DLM814 is a zone lamp, whereas with Bosch the choice is a regular lamp, the Makita DLM811 equivalent currently costs 900,- and has 3000lm, Bosch only 1900lm. Strange that no one picked up on this. Finally, there is one more company missing from the list, namely Metabo. They also have this equipment, plus their batteries can be used with other companies they work with. However, if Metabo was not considered then, in my opinion, Makita is the better option as it gives quite a good selection of tools for the home user. The author has indicated "renovation" work and work around the house. So we should also take into account what we can buy for the garden, i.e. lawnmowers, scythes, trimmers, sprayers and so on.

Topic summary

The discussion centers on the comparison of cordless power tools from Makita, DeWalt, and Bosch Professional, with a user expressing frustration over the availability of spare parts for Bosch tools. While Bosch is noted for being more affordable, concerns about parts availability and quality compared to Makita and DeWalt are raised. Users share experiences indicating that Makita and DeWalt generally have better access to spare parts, with Makita being particularly praised for its reliability and ease of finding components. Some users advocate for Bosch, citing satisfactory performance and warranty options. The conversation also touches on alternative brands like Milwaukee and Parkside, with Milwaukee being deemed too expensive and Parkside criticized for lower quality. Ultimately, the user considers purchasing tools from both Bosch and Makita based on price and availability of parts.
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