[Solved] Parkside vs DeWalt? Weird? - What's better? The price is similar, but there

A little note:
This small difference in price does not matter to me, the bigger one (+ PLN 100), yes.

The kit includes (purchase price PLN 349 +, if necessary, a second 2.5 Ah battery for approx. PLN 115 = PLN 465):
Parkside Performance PABSP 20-Li A1 + charger (45 min) + 1x 2,5 Ah / 20V + case (performance series akku are NOT compatible with other Parkside series - X20VTeam
DATA:
Brushless motor, 60 Nm (hard), ?? Nm (soft),
Two working speeds, max no load speed 1/2 gear: 500/2000 rpm,
21 "gears", drill function, NO hammer action
Weight with 2.5 Ah battery: 1.6 kg
5-year warranty for the screwdriver, 1 year for the battery

The composition of the set (purchase price PLN 427):
DeWalt DCD776 + charger (1h) + 2x 1.3 Ah / 18V + case (year of production 2017).
NEW, bought at a sale in Casto, it was probably a warehouse cleaning.
DATA:
Brush motor, 42 Nm (hard), 24 Nm (soft),
Two working speeds, no load speed 1/2 gear: 450/1500 rpm,
16 "gears", drill function, "hammer" function.
Weight with 1.3 Ah battery: 1.705 kg - I weighed it exactly and it is not 1.72 kg as stated on the website (maybe it is a belt clip that is missing in this version?).
3-year warranty (within 4 weeks of purchase after registration on the DeWalt website).

Differences that I believe matter:
PARKSIDE is brushless, 5 years warranty, bigger battery, higher torque and lighter weight.
DEWALT is a DeWalt (?), Has a "stroke" function, 2 batteries included (so far you can only buy 5 Ah for this Parkside for PLN 179 - and I would prefer a lighter one, maybe it will appear?).

Now a little about what I need it for. Generally, I have only had a plot of land for a few months, I will definitely want to build something (a composter made of pallets, a terrace with a roof - everything is made of wood), probably some slats in the fence, a gate. For concrete, I have a blue Bosch hammer drill on the cable (and in addition, I cannot imagine that the cordless device would pierce it here).

Before buying a DeWalt, I didn't even think about it because of the price ... On the other hand, I try to buy reputable tools - hence I considered the Parkside Performance brushless from the beginning. And they went on sale when I bought the DeWalt in question. I know DeWalt is a bargain for the price - because it's DeWalt. But by rejecting the reputation and adjusting the parameters of the equipment, my needs, and the guarantee - the choice is not so simple for me. If there hadn't been a "stroke" in DeWalt it wouldn't have been this post - I'd be taking Parkside. Due to the weight, brushless motor, power and warranty. What do you think of this "stroke" in DeWalt? Does it make sense to stick with it for this function (or maybe it's worth it for something else)?

So I am asking for your feedback, which will be better in this case: Parkside or DeWalt.

I have the worst opinion about Lidl power tools. Bulky, non-ergonomic and emergency. But I really appreciated DeWalt - it's also not the quality from 7 years ago, but it is not comparable to Parskide from Lidl.

Thank you for opinion. Maybe someone else will comment?

TomeG2kc wrote:

The composition of the set (purchase price PLN 427):
DeWalt DCD776 + charger (1h) + 2x 1.3 Ah / 18V + case (year of production 2017).
NEW, bought at a sale in Casto, it was probably a warehouse cleaning.

It is difficult to find bargains in such equipment. I would check if some smart guy had replaced cells or sold batteries with Chinese cells.
Back in the day, batteries were very expensive and people would buy a second same model for the batteries themselves.

If I was to take Parkside, I would take even cheaper Niteo Tools also "60 Nm" in Biedronka (I saw this model on the shelf for PLN 250). However, if you already have a DeWalt and the battery are ok, there is nothing to change.

I already have a DeWalt, but I'm still tempted by this brushless motor and 5-year warranty (this ladybug screwdriver does not have that). Additionally, however, more positive opinions concern Parkside.
The worst thing is that I can't use this equipment, so that a return is possible - hence my question to who the users
Thank you for opinion.

Hello.
Like my colleagues, I have a bad experience with Lidl goods in general, They even look good, but when you look at it and start using it immediately, there is no ergonomics, something does not fit completely, it is not in your hand. Trifles begin to spoil, but bothersome ones. In my opinion, it makes no sense to use this equipment from Lidl, you will be nervous and, contrary to appearances, you will lose more time for a given job. The only rationale for buying this type of tool is the occasional DIY and hour-a-week workload.
Regards

TomeG2kc wrote:

but I'm still tempted by this brushless motor

Everything is beautiful until there is a warranty (surprisingly, as much as 5 years). Brushless motors in power tools are OK, as long as their quality is at a level. In the case of a brush motor, you will probably not get it so quickly, you will replace the brushes because it is the most common ailment and it goes on, although I suspect that with the use you write about, these brushes will surely survive the warranty and much more.
I have a Stanley and DeWalt screwdriver. DeWalt no problems and Stanley went under warranty after six months. Only the fact that in my case the Stanley is half the price of a DeWalt. I am both about 2 years old.

Thanks, great feedback. Parkside is losing so far.
However, I want to ask if any of you have had contact with this, probably better, line of Performance series products? Because that's the problem for me. I wouldn't wonder if it was just an ordinary Parkside. But here we have a higher model, where does this 5-year warranty come from? I know that this series was in Lidl a year ago and it sold out, I know that it was in Germany and it also sold out. I did not find too many negatives, and even a year ago there was a topic about Fr. https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3535466.html .
Are there users of this Parkside Performance screwdriver here?

TomeG2kc wrote:

with the Performance line of products

Isn't it that the Parkside Brushed Screwdriver is the Green Series and the Brushless Motor is the Black Series?

Yes, yes, this is what this black series is all about.

I saw the PABSP 20-Li, a black screwdriver from Lidl, now on YT and even there it was a deterrent with its performance. The parameters are nice, but for PLN 285 you can buy a YATO YT-82782 brushless screwdriver. Prakside costs 349.
I have two small grinders, one large. In addition, a large demolition hammer from Lidl. Cosmic appearance and totally impractical placement and execution of, for example, a switch. Their sizes are also bizarre. The ventilation seems to be used to draw in dust. I do not stick to details, but specific flaws - already making a small grinder from Biedronka is better.
As I already bought all these things from Lidl, and I found out that in real use for an amateur who sometimes works with steel, i.e. for me, they are extremely uncomfortable, the small grinder collapsed after a few (!!!) minutes of light work, not even continuous .

Ok thanks for a lot of information. Sorry, I only have one question - are the devices you have from Lidl from the Performance series? I try to gather the most accurate information possible, making sure it can help.

TomeG2kc wrote:

it was from the Performance series

No, they come in a green case from the regular line.

I have a few Lidl tools. They were bought in the nearest supermarket when I went to the customer and forgot my own. The intention was to do one job and leave the client as a gift. However, after testing it, the machine always stayed with me because it performed well. I have a 12 V screwdriver, it does not do hard, but a lot (mainly drilling in metal and screwing in sheet metal screws). It is small, light and handy. After the warranty, the switch broke (there was no speed control, it worked all the time at maximum speed). For PLN 2 I bought a PWM controller and the machine works like new. I also have a 230 V straight grinder. I also work a lot in metal with carbide cutters and no problems. Angle grinder with a 230 mm disc also no problems, but it was too weak for me, so I gave it as a gift and bought a Makita 2200 W. Generally, when I talk to people, Lidl equipment is ok when you use it with your head. Perfect for personal use. They also have the advantage that you can repair yourself at a low cost, for example, in the battery it is enough to replace the cells and it works on, and in branded ones it will not pass because of the controller. The screwdriver motor costs PLN 15-17 (brand name) so repairs are cheap.

Hello everyone.
We have this Parksid in our workshop twice a month. Recently, the hammer was assembled so badly that after 20 minutes of operation, the fan and cover in the stator fused together New! straight from the box. Bought in Ireland, I think.
In general, I do not trust the company's power tools, switches and speed regulators often fail.

On the other hand, DeWalt is not some top shelf, but mostly we only replace the brushes and the equipment continues to work.
A lot of builders in the area have aku grinders and screwdrivers. this company. And they don't complain.

I, Parksid, wouldn't bother to just buy a DeWalt.

I advise against parkside, I recently bought a hammer drill for PLN 200 but when I opened the box and picked it up, I was scared.
The quality of workmanship is the worst trash, the new switch was already stuck dry.
But in the photos she looked really good.

ptero wrote:

Hello everyone.
We have this Parksid in our workshop twice a month. Recently, the hammer was assembled so badly that after 20 minutes of operation, the fan and cover in the stator fused together New! straight from the box. Bought in Ireland, I think.
In general, I do not trust the company's power tools, switches and speed regulators often fail.

On the other hand, DeWalt is not some top shelf, but mostly we only replace the brushes and the equipment continues to work.
A lot of builders in the area have aku grinders and screwdrivers. this company. And they don't complain.

I, Parksid, wouldn't bother to just buy a DeWalt.

As I understand it, you are writing about the Performance Series hammer? About something like that?
https://www.lidl-sklep.pl/PARKSIDE-PERFORMANC...271336?tduid=fe2124caaf624d3ba72e60ad0fa9e81f

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rafcio363 wrote:

I advise against parkside, I recently bought a hammer drill for PLN 200 but when I opened the box and picked it up, I was scared.
The quality of workmanship is the worst trash, the new switch was already stuck dry.
But in the photos she looked really good.

But as I understand it, you relate your opinion to the green series, because the price of the Performance hammer drill has never been as low (see the post above) as you write, but maybe I'm wrong - will you correct me jbc?

So to the green (Parkside PBH 800 A1), I haven't even seen that there are any other.
Anyway, I gave it back, thought it over and bought a Makita (I once had a loan and it fidgeted like butter in reinforced concrete). It is known much more expensive (price x 3) but I hope it will last for the rest of my life and I am afraid that it will fall apart in my hands

Yes, but I can't afford Makita. Already, the PLN 400 is too much for me, but I hope that he is a few (5 years old) is enough. Is brushless vs brushed motor a big difference in use?

TomeG2kc wrote:

Is brushless vs brushed motor a big difference in use?

I didn't notice the difference.

TomeG2kc wrote:

Is brushless vs brushed motor a big difference in use?

The only one is that the brushes sometimes like to let go of the "bubble" from the engine and it does not mean equipment failure.
The brush one is less complicated and thus less emergency - no inverter.

The weakest element of most screwdrivers is the battery, so I asked before how the batteries work after aging.

TomeG2kc wrote:

Is brushless vs brushed motor a big difference in use?

In use no. Only when replacing. The brush motor (the original Makita, fits most screwdrivers) costs from PLN 15. BLDC is a lot more. Well, as the colleague wrote above, you should take into account the failure of the inverter.

I have had this parkside for almost a year and due to the carpentry, i.e. screwing long screws into the wood, I feel that the housing is bent ... But it works - a disadvantage for me, there is no space for a second battery in the suitcase.

A fresh test of this PARKSIDE screwdriver.

E8600 wrote:

Fresh test of this PARKSIDE screwdriver.

Sort of sponsored ...?

TomeG2kc wrote:

A bit sponsored ...?

The beauty of YT tests, you can never be sure how reliable they are.
A large part of the channels on this website is aimed only at advertising / selling products.

I believe that the video shows exactly how this screwdriver performed. But what of it? What does this prove? Does it make it worth the money?

When it comes to parkside grinders with a brushless motor, I do not recommend it because the repair of the control system is impossible, no diagrams, plate not available on the net, no information

freebsd wrote:

I believe that the video shows exactly how this screwdriver performed. But what of it? What does this prove? Does it make it worth the money?

Exactly. ? I guess DeWalt and Parkside would do both for my application. But I'm trying to predict which will last longer, and whether it will be strong enough for my needs.
5 years vs DeWalt's reputation ...

Lidl's website is a mockery. It does not exist at the moment.