Cordless Drill Driver Comparison: Bosch GSB 180-LI vs Makita DF457DWE for DIY Tasks under PLN 600

Hello, I am looking for a drill / screwdriver (cordless) for up to PLN 600. It will be used for smaller DIY jobs, wood drilling and, of course, driving and removing screws / bolts. I care about the solid performance of the product and the possibility of using it for years. So far, I have selected 2 models, I will be grateful for your help and, of course, I am open to suggestions. Regards

1. http://www.narzedzia.pl/wiertarko-wkretarka-z-udarem-bosch-gsb-180-li,64850.html [Bosch GSB 180-LI]

2. http://www.narzedzia.pl/wiertarko-wkretarka-makita-df457dwe,58402.html [Makita DF457DWE]

Take an interest in Hitachi or Dewalt equipment.
I personally recommend Hitachi, in my opinion it beats Bosch and Makite.

However, I suggest Bosch.

Unfortunately, now Bosch is not the same as it used to be, I had two Bosch screwdrivers and Hitachi definitely wins with them, the battery work culture and is actually Japanese, and Bosch is already doing no one knows where in total.

This bosch is better and cheaper to buy something in a ladybug or lidl, the quality of workmanship and the service life are the same, the original handle teleports to the sides due to the single bearing from the impact, and after some time, drilling with a drill below 3mm will be impossible, even screwing in screws with a telepicking handle is bothersome.

And this makita for an amateur is almost perfect, a reinforced handle - for a few years it will be impossible to reach, you just need to be careful when drilling in the ceiling, so as not to cover with dust because it will block solidly, the quality of workmanship at a higher level, and fairly well balanced, you should not just too frequently recharge the batteries, because after two years they will have to be regenerated, fortunately Samsung batteries are quite cheap.

Unfortunately that's true bosch and b & d are worth nothing at the moment. I will drop 2 more Metabo and Sparky brands. Take the one that has a 3-year battery warranty because this is the weak point of every screwdriver.

In ldlu, it is for sale for PLN 179, 3-year warranty.
Detachable drill chuck, screwdriver function.

Zbigniew 400 wrote:

In Lidl it is on sale for PLN 179, 3-year warranty.
Detachable drill chuck, screwdriver function.

you can approach the topic anyway with 600 PLN to spend, we buy 3 pcs and we have full batteries and spare parts, or we buy a newer model every three years and we have a warranty of 9 years and nice and newer screwdrivers during this time and working batteries. and as I mentioned, it does not differ from Bosch in any way? maybe a longer warranty, provided you have a receipt for it, not an invoice for the company.

I guess you're forgetting that Bosch has two lines.
Green for amateurs, and this one breaks down quickly.
Blue for professionals, and even for home use, it is worth only buying blue, although the (blue) ones are usually not available in supermarkets.

@HeksoN, From this list, Bosch has a bit more torque and slightly larger batteries.

I have been using the blue Bosh for years (on 36V), although it is known that now every manufacturer does so that the tools do not last forever, because it does not pay off for him.

Hitachi - a lot of people complain about the service.

Dewalt - it will come out much more expensive.

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Update:

Found something nice for the price.
I guess it's going to be hard to beat.

DeWALT 18V XR 2x1.3Ah drill driver for 544 PLN
Brushless motor, torque up to 70nm, it's a pity that the batteries only 1.3Ah.
Metal gears, although I hope metal is not an aluminum alloy.
In addition, a nice trunk from the TSTAK series.
Manufacturer's warranty: 3 YEARS - after registering the tool on the DeWALT website (door-to-door).


http://sklep.anb.com.pl/product-pol-8497-DCD7...BRDEARIsAN1A1Qn5qY5A1Qn5qY5A1Qn5qY5e1Qn5qY5A1 SD5CFpovAZoX87ghkUIRMggaAg2FEALw_wcB

Unfortunately, I read - it is not so rosy because ... the battery and charger are available separately.
And I thought it was a great promotion.

I would like to add that the mentioned Sparky is probably Elprom Lovecz after changing the name. In short, it is durable equipment straight from the People's Republic of Poland. Sparky tools have a lot of tests on the Internet. When I buy new equipment, I trust this brand. The brand is very little known, but from what I saw, it used to make equipment at home, not like others in China.

E8600 wrote:

I would like to add that the mentioned Sparky is probably Elprom Lovecz after changing the name. In short, it is durable equipment straight from the People's Republic of Poland. ...

ELPROM LOWETSCH BULGARIEN - http://elprom-ems.com/

It points to Bulgaria rather than the People's Republic of Poland. ;-)

HeksoN wrote:

It will be used for smaller DIY jobs, wood drilling and, of course, driving and removing screws / bolts. I care about the solid performance of the product and the possibility of using it for years.

In my opinion, there is no need to bother with expensive equipment. To tinker, buy a screwdriver at Biedronka. It is important that it has a LiON battery. Tools in Biedra or Lidl are of sufficient quality for an amateur, have a 2-year warranty and there are no problems with a possible complaint - they usually return the money and you can buy another one and have a new one again. Once you buy such a tinkering tool, it will be in working order for many years. Again, for 10 years there is nothing to buy, because there is progress and there will be something newer in 2-3 years, you can buy it. The advantage of cheap tools is that for the prices you indicated, you can buy the entire set in the market and still have drills, spare blades, etc. meaningful. What can I give you a hint; look at MacAllister tools from Castorama. The price is somewhere around 2x lower and the workmanship is very solid. Recently, I bought, for example, the so-called Multifunctional device 300 W of the same company. There were also Bosch, but 2 times more expensive and nothing better in their operation was noticed after the rehearsals. MacAllister has a 3-year warranty and Bosch has a 2-year warranty.
However, the choice is up to you.
Regards!

As for the cheaper versions, I also have one from Lidl, Parkside 12V.
For these "smaller" tasks, it works fine, but I'm only six months old.
The advantages are definitely a 3-year warranty, and the price.

If you go in this direction, you can look for:
https://www.pepper.pl/promocje/wiertarko-wkretarka-parkside-pabs-20-li-b2-lidl-31456
20V, 2Ah, fast charger.

But they appear rarely and usually do not stay on the shelf for a long time.
The method of performance is a big plus compared to MacAllister.

But if a friend has money - after all, I would probably take this Bosch from the first post.

tomiok wrote:

It points to Bulgaria rather than the People's Republic of Poland.

Yes, but in the times of the Polish People's Republic, this equipment was imported from Bługari to Poland, mainly for companies. Searching on the web, I found that Spary is a former Elprom, but it changed its name twice.
Video where Sparky is made.

And here is the 10.8V test.


The author must answer at what battery is aimed voltage and capacity because the battery is the most important in the screwdriver. Some people buy a corpse, for example Makitas with a dead battery have to be regenerated and they have a powerful equipment with a 4Ah battery at a low cost.

Yeah.
Only none of these tests will determine the durability of the device.
How he is doing can be roughly seen in the technical data in terms of revolutions and Nm.

Going on full budget, I changed my brother in an ordinary screwdriver (for about PLN 50-70) of the TOYA 14.4V type,
used Li-ion batteries, has gained power, and he does not need anything else for DIY.
I only added a charger to the set.

There are many solutions, but the interested person himself does not say which way he wants to go.
Without it, there is no point in continuing the topic.

I would buy a Makita. Makita is much better than Bosch in my opinion. Bosch is also nice and cheap, but for example for me the battery in Bosch broke.

Łukasz.K wrote:

I would buy a Makita. Makita is much better than Bosch in my opinion. Bosch is also nice and cheap, but for example for me the battery in Bosch broke.

I bought a used (blue) Bosch, a screwdriver and a drill with SDS - all for 36V to have spare batteries interchangeable.
Initially, I was concerned that it might be too weak, but unnecessarily, it's great.
The drill drills hard like the Bosch 230V power supply (I know because I have one for about 10 years).
I previously bought a Chinese, he drilled only 6-8 holes on a single charge.
When I bought Bosch equipment (a drug), it was already a few years, I have been using the next few years, so generally the equipment has a lot of time, and it does not lie on the shelf, but only makes money.
I'm not in any trouble.
The battery in any brand can break (although it has not gone out for me).

Each brand has better and worse models. A friend bought a used Bosch, but probably an older model that's why it is durable. In new models, it is a lottery and more and more often the brand is of little importance because many companies have lowered the quality. I was even supposed to assume a topic about old, proven brands that now sell their logos and brand Chinese equipment.

Hello!
I tested many models and for such small works in the workshop, I recommend the Milwaukee M12BDD - very high quality - about three years trained in various ways by different people and really without any problems. When it comes to more solid work, the AEG 18V series has also been practiced in various ways for over 5 years and only replacing the battery, the Makita XPH01 is also doing well, but these are a bit more expensive.
However, the Makita DF330 was very bad in our tests, but here the price probably suggested quality.
Regards.

I have been using the cheap Einhel 18v for 2 years and I am very pleased. After 2 years, the battery lasts shorter, but it's not bad. I recommend DeWALT 18V XR 2x1, 3Ah drill and screwdriver, my neighbor, roofer, has been using a similar one for several years. I recommend 18v, strong and persistent.

Pay attention to this model. Nice hardware, and after removing the spindle, you can insert the bit.

This is what it is in lidl.

Zbigniew 400 wrote:

This is what it is in lidl.

Taka - I mean what?
Which statement does this apply to?
Because Milwaukee - the version shown, I haven't seen it there.

With removable handle.

Look at youtube for screwdriver tests, but mostly in English made by youtoubers, Bosch is average in them.
18V drill driver test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBU7VC51YwE
18V impact drill driver test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrp0iNLWu2k

With battery equipment for many years for amateur use, I am always afraid that sooner or later it is not the equipment but the battery that will go to hell.
That is why here I am a supporter of cheap ones, because you can always buy another one, you can always exchange it under warranty, sometimes you can find an indestructible player.

The higher the battery voltage, the theoretically longer its life. More expensive models have more protection against cell damage. Let's face it, in cheap equipment there are cheap cells and for professional equipment the battery itself costs 600 PLN.

The batteries can be repaired by replacing the cells with the popular 18650 which you can have for free. If the equipment will be used sporadically and only for DIY, it may be better to buy something like Einhell, Macallister, Skill or B&D. Of the two given by the author, this Bosch looks a bit better than the Makita, better torque and more capacious battery, for a price of up to PLN 600 you may find Metabo, Hitachi would have to be given 100 PLN more.

@ xray81
Well, you're right, but if someone buys a higher shelf, it's not to tinker with the batteries.
It is better to look for one that someone threw away because of a broken battery and regenerate.

Xray, I wonder how long these links of yours have been coming from.