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Potential Impact of Slight Movement on 2.5 External HDD After Ejection

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  • #1 21258516
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    I finished copying the files to my 2.5" external HDD. I ejected the HDD in Windows 10 but the enclosure case LED was on and then I went to pull the USB 3.0 cable but when the cable came out of the PC port my hand hit the side of the HDD case and the case moved slightly to the right of the table. Did this event cause damage to the HDD?

    Safe eject hardware icon in Windows 10.
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  • #2 21258607
    xury
    Automation specialist
    And are you asking because it stopped working or what? Instead of a screen shot it would have been better to write what the drive is.

    Read up on SMART and check it out. You will know.
  • #3 21258670
    kaleron

    HDD and data recovery specialist
    And how does the drive behave? If it was working correctly immediately before the event and no longer immediately after, then you probably have the answer.... The picture, yes, has no diagnostic value and you posted it unnecessarily. A description of the drive's behaviour would be more useful.
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  • #6 21258787
    kaleron

    HDD and data recovery specialist
    If you have too much time, then
    pidar wrote:
    For comparison
    you can use a few hundred other programs...check the SMART with any one of them and post a screenshot on the forum. If you can manage to read the SMART at all, because in truth, I'm more looking forward to whether the drive is recognised and returns SMART at all, or not, rather than the SMART content itself.
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  • #7 21258794
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    The impact was with my hand on the side of the HDD case. It was on the table and moved to the left after the impact, but it didn't fall to the floor. I pulled the USB 3.0 cable from the PC and it came out immediately. My hand hit the case. I know that HDDs are fragile when impacted.

    After ejecting a 2.5" HDD in Windows 10, why does its LED stay on? Some people say that there are several models of the same brand and some models turn off after ejecting in Windows and other models do not turn off after ejecting in Windows.
  • #8 21258801
    Kasek21
    Level 43  
    Probably the drive is 100% functional and the question is only theoretical xD
  • #9 21258807
    artaa
    Level 43  
    Most portable drives are SMRs i.e. they are broken by design already from the factory ;-)
  • #10 21258812
    kaleron

    HDD and data recovery specialist
    artaa wrote:
    SMR or are they broken by virtue of an idea already out of the factory
    It's a fact:)

    Added after 2 [hours] 47 [minutes]:

    gamemaniaco1987 wrote:
    Why, when you eject a 2.5-inch hard drive in Windows 10, its LED stays on?
    - because it gets power. "Ejecting" is not disconnecting power to the drive, it is interrupting communication with the device. Can you post how this drive is behaving? Specify its model and check the SMART (with any program - colleagues have already indicated their favourite tools, I don't want to add more to avoid unnecessary confusion). Because if your question is just theoretical, then yes - you could have damaged the drive this way. It's not difficult.
  • #12 21259984
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    Why do some 2.5" HDDs not turn off after ejecting in Windows 10? Is this behavior common? Two people told me that they have several models of the same brand, some turn off, others do not, and this is a problem if when the hand hits the HDD case, the mechanical arm and the needle scratch the HDD. My HDD is very quiet. I only saw the LED turn on after ejecting in Windows 10. I have the models Seagate ST500LM030, WD WD10JPVX-08JC3T5, HGST HTS541010A99E662 enclosure cases USB 3.0 Orico 25pw1 and Kesu 2530 If Windows 10 eject fails and does not power off the HDD, is there any other protection against hand shocks on the side of the case not damage or generates bad sectors in hdd?
  • #13 21260351
    kaleron

    HDD and data recovery specialist
    gamemaniaco1987 wrote:
    My HDD is very quiet
    anything else? It is recognised with the correct model and capacity? Can you see the logical structure? If you don't describe the behaviour of the drive in detail, it's anyone's guess. As there is no head knocking (there is no needle in hard drives - the needle is in the turntable), or other suspicious errors, it is not a mechanical failure, that is, it was not caused by you hitting it with your hand.
    gamemaniaco1987 wrote:
    ST500LM030
    , it's an SMR. It could have been harmed by an abrupt shutdown if it was storing something in Media Cache. The design in all respects fatal.
    gamemaniaco1987 wrote:
    is there any other handguard
    - yes - be careful. Generally this is a good protection and with any other activity.
  • #14 21278392
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    I have a 2.5" HDD USB 3.0 enclosure case. I ejected it in Windows 10 but kept the USB 3.0 cable connected to the PC and the case. Then my hand hit the side of the case. Will this shock cause friction between the read/write heads and the platters, scratching them?
    My 2.5" HDDs are 2013 models WD10JPVX-08JC3T5 and HGST HTS541010A99E662

    Old HDDs from 2013 have outdated firmware and an older processor. Will this impact the parking speed after ejecting in Windows 10 the 2.5" HDD USB3.0 enclosure case?
    My models are: WD10JPVX-08JC3T5 and HGST HTS541010A99E662
  • #15 21333497
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    From what year approximately all 2.5" HDDs of any manufacturer and model added in their firmware the function to park the heads after Windows ejects "safely remove hardware"? 2.5" hdd enclosure case usb3.0
  • #16 21354331
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    I have a Kesu 2530 and Orico 25PW1 USB3.0 enclosure case. I use Seagate ST500LM030 and WDC WD10JPVX-08JC3T5, APPLE HDD HTS541010A99E662 2.5" hard drives.

    In Windows 10 there is an eject function to safely remove hardware. When this function is executed, and the HDD case does not appear in Windows, for example "E:" even with the USB3.0 cable connected to the PC on/case.

    After all this happened, my hand hit the USB3.0 enclosure case and it moved on the table.

    Did this hit cause friction between the 2.5" HDD read/write heads and the magnetic platters, scratching them?
  • #17 21354336
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    gamemaniaco1987 wrote:
    Why do some 2.5" hard drives not shut down when ejected in Windows 10?
    .
    Because Win10 doesn't disconnect power on the port. It is enough that the drive icon disappears from the resources and the light stops flashing. The drive is parked and ready to be unplugged.
  • #18 21354338
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    >>21354336 2.5" HDD parks or does not park the heads after ejecting safely remove hardware in Windows, but keeping the USB 3.0 cable from the enclosure case USB 3.0 connected to the PC/enclosure after ejection? I use enclosure USB 3.0 and HDD 2.5".

    Or parking some cut power and physical disconnect drive?
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  • #19 21354341
    butterfield21
    Level 8  
    In fact, any movement of the case, even a minor one, can affect the hard drive. 2.5 drives are very sensitive, especially to micro-vibration, which can disrupt the precise positioning of the platters inside. Although an LED may not indicate any problem, a shock, even a very short one, can cause a momentary disruption in the rotation of the platters. This can, in the worst case scenario, lead to damage, so it is always worth being careful, especially with such small movements.
  • #20 21354344
    Ture11
    Level 39  
    Generally, hard drives park the head when power is removed.

    2.5" drives are generally designed to be portable, so they also have an acceleration sensor - if the drive feels it is falling - it quickly parks the heads. If there is no power - it already has the heads parked too (this takes milliseconds, from the moment the power is removed).

    I won't answer your question precisely (because I don't know), but I guess you think the hard drive is more fragile than it is in practice.


    gamemaniaco1987 wrote:
    My 2.5" HDDs are 2013 models
    .

    I had a laptop in 2011 whose 2.5" drive notoriously software parked the head. This probably wore out the drive more than all the shaking. Nevertheless, despite the laptop tipping over several times, the drive never died.

    Added after 5 [minutes]: .

    butterfield21 wrote:
    microvibrations that can interfere with the precise positioning of the plates inside
    .

    Are you suggesting that the platers shift relative to each other during light vibration?

    I also had a drive that had a crooked platter bearing after a laptop crash. It rubbed against the head parking bracket on acceleration and you could see with the naked eye that the platters were not spinning evenly.... But the data somehow tried to read and 2GB of data survived.

    In general, it is worth buying a cheap used drive and checking under the computer what type of vibration will harm the drive. I once did such an experiment, dropping a working disk on a table or tapping it on the tabletop. It was unimpressive and continued to work. I do not recommend this if you have important data on it :D .
  • #21 21354348
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    2.5" HDD parks or does not park the heads after ejecting safely remove hardware in Windows, but keeping the USB 3.0 cable from the enclosure case USB 3.0 connected to the PC/enclosure after ejection? I use enclosure USB 3.0 and HDD 2.5" laptop SATA. My models are: WD10JPVX-08JC3T5, HGST HTS541010A99E662, and ST500LM030.
  • #22 21354572
    kaleron

    HDD and data recovery specialist
    butterfield21 wrote:
    microvibration, which can interfere with the precise placement of the plates inside.
    - to affect the placement of the plates, you need to apply a really big force. This is something you won't cause with more than a minor vibration or a free fall from the table. A much greater risk is to bring the heads into contact with the platter surfaces, which can damage both the surfaces and the heads themselves.
  • #23 21354580
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    2.5" HDD parks or does not park heads after safe removal of hardware in Windows, but keeping USB 3.0 cable from USB 3.0 enclosure connected to PC/enclosure after ejection? I am using a USB 3.0 enclosure and a 2.5" SATA laptop HDD. My models are: WD10JPVX-08JC3T5, HGST HTS541010A99E662 and ST500LM030.
  • #24 21381864
    gamemaniaco1987
    Level 2  
    2.5" hdd parks heads only when disconnecting all usb power cables?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the potential impact of minor physical movement on a 2.5" external HDD after it has been ejected in Windows 10. The original poster describes an incident where their hand accidentally hit the HDD case while disconnecting the USB 3.0 cable, raising concerns about possible damage to the drive. Participants suggest checking the drive's SMART status using various diagnostic tools to assess its health. They note that while 2.5" HDDs are sensitive to vibrations, the likelihood of damage from a slight movement is low, especially if the drive was functioning normally before the incident. The conversation also touches on the behavior of HDDs post-ejection, with some models not powering down despite being ejected, which could lead to concerns about mechanical impacts. Recommendations include ensuring proper ejection procedures and using tools to monitor drive health.
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