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Mute the Recording Studio: DIY Soundproofing Ideas, Polystyrene vs Egg Cartons, Attachment Methods

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  • #1 4166919
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    Hello, I wanted to make a recording studio in the basement :D
    dimensions of 2.5 meters (maybe 3) by 1 meter, the point is for 1 person to enter. I already have a table and a chair, but I have to soundproof this room. I thought it was best with polystyrene, but they advised me to do it with egg cartons, but I do not know how to attach them to the wall so that they would not get there, and it is not about drilling the walls because it does not make sense.
    PS: If someone had another way to soundproof (also cheap) I would be very grateful because it is important to me

    more or less it looked like this
    Mute the Recording Studio: DIY Soundproofing Ideas, Polystyrene vs Egg Cartons, Attachment Methods
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  • #3 4167064
    gr86
    Level 16  
    when it comes to soundproofing, I dampened the columns with these jajcowych and the effect is really great, I glued them with Rakol, they dry quite quickly because they are made of paper mass and draw moisture quite a lot, but if you were you, I would buy glue such as for sticking cork ornamental,
    greetings

    And I found more money on Allegro http://www.allegro.pl/item224802388_pianka_akustyczna_mata_wygluszajaca_200x120.html
  • #4 4167135
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    well, this foam for 45 zlotys, but I would have to buy 4 of these, and this is a large cost, and is there any difference between the cartridges? because I have gray (such as toilet paper :P ) and e.g. DonGuralesko had some yellowish cartridges. oh and how much does such glue cost and it's best to give the name so that I don't buy a git ... a
    PS: I found something like that
    http://www.allegro.pl/item221166271_wyciszajaca_pianka_gabka_akustyczna_okazja_.html

    what about something like that? because cheap, even good
    http://www.allegro.pl/item222284599_pianka_gabka_akustyczna_2000x1200x20_okazja_.html

    Added after 3 [hours] 30 [minutes]:

    I already have 100 cartridges :) they cost 10 zlotys, but I do not know whether to buy these foams a little, I would also stick to it, but somehow it will be much better or a little better because I do not know whether to charge money into it
  • #5 4167896
    Jasiek690
    Moderator on vacation ...
    I wonder if it would not be possible to stick to the foam for sealing windows?
  • #6 4167901
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    hmmm, I'll try

    Added after 2 [hours] 2 [minutes]:

    I will stick with plaster :P it will be okay ?
  • #7 4168717
    Helmans
    Level 20  
    With plaster I do not really know what it would look like in terms of durability. If possible, try silicone. It should stick where it can be easily peeled off.
  • #8 4168966
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    I did it on a cast and it is cool .... it holds and it is not a problem to break up :) only I had to plaster the whole room 25 kilos of plaster went :P
  • #9 4168999
    Agencik15
    Level 21  
    Write what the acoustic properties look like ;)
  • #10 4169807
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    more specifically because I do not understand the concept? :P I haven't finished yet, I have 1 wall left, and I will put foam on the ceiling so that they won't hear anything at the top :P
  • #11 4170023
    Tremolo
    Level 43  
    This is not soundproofing: it is a distraction, in fact the volume of something like that is negligible, it is a bit better at dealing with echoes and everything about it. at higher intensities and at certain frequencies, the moldings themselves begin to resonate and play on the walls.

    Besides, they will hear it anyway, it is paper, light material - I know because I research acoustic screens. You can load concrete screens with stars, sawdust concrete, 1cm organic glass and you will still hear something from the other side. A sponge of all this will be the best, especially if it was, say, 30 cm polyurethane.

    To soundproof the top, just buy a cotton sponge, old duvets and upholstery, you will have a few decibels better.
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  • #12 4170577
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    right, and the acoustic sponge can be? I do not want anyone to hear me, but that the quality of the recordings was better than in my 16-square-meter room and this is 3 meters, less than 1.5 meters

    Added after 52 [minutes]:

    I was also reading to dampen 3 walls with extrudates and the fourth one with a blanket is the best, because the extrudates dissipate the sound and the blanket catches. Damn people advise differently, I don't know what to do anymore, others say that it won't do you any good because the dimensions are wrong

    Added after 9 [minutes]:

    and I have a choice to buy two of them
    http://www.allegro.pl/item222265551_pianka_gabka_akustyczna_2000x1200x10_okazja_.html
    or such one
    http://www.allegro.pl/item224802388_pianka_akustyczna_mata_wygluszajaca_200x120.html
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  • #13 4173001
    Tremolo
    Level 43  
    Dimensions are non-acoustic if they are in proportion to each other. How high is it? 3 meters to 1.5 is equal to 2: 1. Even if you are still 3 meters high, you have 2: 2: 1, which is a terribly acoustic room, at least in listening and with its own resonance for low frequencies. don't worry, there is still a ratio of 2.5: 2.5: 2.5

    After that, you can also put a shelf there with books and kill the rest of the place with blankets.

    Excerpt from the article:
    "Most often it looks like this: we mount everything temporarily, connect speaker sets, amplifier and CD player, play the disc and ... well, basically everything sounds very good, the" treble "is muffled perfectly, only ... this bottom is a bit strange. At first it is difficult to say what is wrong, but something definitely does not fit. Known recordings sound a bit strange, and because the walls are muffled, we think that they sound better. Unfortunately, we learn the truth quite quickly - already during recording and listening to the first tracks. We will then notice that some bass tones are louder than others, and further investigation of this issue significantly affects the amount of gray hair of the studio owner. "
    http://www.studio.mpro.pl/budowa/studia2.php

    And there they write that the proportion or even the approximation of 2: 1 should be avoided like fire because harmonics of standing waves mutually stimulate and cover each other.

    By the way, carefully measure the dimensions of the corners of the room. As if: a bookshelf. Erect an additional brick wall, etc. Put up some natural barriers. You can put an old rug on the floor.
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  • #14 4174600
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    I made three walls so I lined the front with this blanket. Sponges on the ceiling, and on the door, sponges and a rug on the floor, a table on it, a computer, a monitor and a notebook, a chair and the whole room is occupied :D but this is about 2.5 meters by 2 meters high by one meter wide :D :D ,
    www.myspace.com/ktpketchup
    this is the quality of the recording when I record in a whymiry cabinet somewhere 50 cm by 70 cm damped with polystyrene :P
  • #16 4176470
    myslaw92
    Level 11  
    you know, I don't know about these distortions :) or other things, it's best if someone who knew it arranged for me, but because I don't know anyone, I do it myself, and I don't have too much money to load up on some goodies.
    MXL990
    Integrated sound card, but I'll have a better one on Thursday
  • #17 4178375
    jamesvangrey
    Level 16  
    I was sticking with silicone in my room and it's ok
  • #18 4910451
    K3dz1oR
    Level 11  
    Hello. I unearthed this topic because I have a problem with soundproofing the room. I bought tonsile zeus and now I am spitting loud music and I live in a block of flats. How am I supposed to blast this room so that the neighbors won't hear the music?
  • #19 4910676
    arti13
    Level 32  
    Hello
    For me, it makes no sense to soundproof the room, I got used to my neighbors to music, and I also live in a block of flats :D . You will overwhelm the bass and so it will spread, so the entire soundproofing will practically do nothing, at least I think so. Try not to pay attention to the neighbors, it comes to me at first to silence, then I did not react anymore and then I listen loudly, now it does not come down anymore :D
    GREETINGS
  • #20 4912995
    K3dz1oR
    Level 11  
    hehe. it's kind of good. only that recently a neighbor downstairs told me that when her walls shake again, she will come to me and shake me. I think the problem is with these basses.
  • #21 4915077
    cool_as_ice
    Level 15  
    The soundproofing first makes the high tones deaf and then the low tones only (at least I think so) so if you muffle the bass so that they can't hear the bass, the high frequencies will be terribly quiet and you would probably have to have an anechoic chamber in your room ...
    and peace would reduce the surface by half ...
    I recommend listening quietly, nothing else sensible will come up, unfortunately
    Fortunately, I live in a house, not in a block of flats, so the only limitation is my parents :)

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  • #22 4915080
    melisław
    Level 24  
    how is it in Zeus? Do they have any feet or something? Try to put them on spikes and some felt pads for it ... But it won't work miracles ... ;)
  • #23 4915363
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #24 4915954
    K3dz1oR
    Level 11  
    hahaha, I laughed reading your posts. now I do not know if there is any sense in changing the structure of my room because no one has shown me a 100% way that will at least to some extent reduce the damn bass I like so much.
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  • #25 4916020
    WoŹnY
    Level 28  
    There are no miracles! You want to listen without disturbing anyone - buy yourself headphones with good sound! or move out to a desert island. Heavy / thick mineral wool is the best for soundproofing. And if you wanted to reduce the room in every dimension by 20 cm, it would be possible to add partitions filled with wool with 36dB attenuation (I did not measure these 36dB, according to the designers)
  • #26 4916492
    K3dz1oR
    Level 11  
    well 36 db, there are already specifics. only if it will help 100% because I do not intend to spend money on a negligible effect.
  • #27 4918041
    WoŹnY
    Level 28  
    Are you sure 36dB? I don't know because I wasn't doing the calculations and measurements. However, the wall had just such markings on the plans. It is a plasterboard cover on the profile 100, which is basically free-standing, because it is attached only along the outline of the floor, ceiling and side walls. As a soundproofing, refractory mineral wool F90 (heavy, but probably an ordinary acoustic one is enough), double-boarded from the side of the room. Such walls are erected in the hotel, where, of course, peace and quiet are most welcome. As for the costs, everyone should calculate for himself, but it will not be enough.

    Regards
  • #28 4930765
    K3dz1oR
    Level 11  
    I already had my first complaints from the neighbors. I left my friend in the apartment and left the block myself. I told him to play such a small bass test and see what the reaction will be outside. I will say that the windows shook nicely. the only worst thing about it all was that a neighbor downstairs suddenly jumped out of the hut and shouted to me: stop doing any experiments for me here, this is not a single-family house that you can listen to yourself so loudly, if you were in my apartment, you would know what I am experiencing. .. ( earthquake??? ;) )
  • #29 4930990
    melisław
    Level 24  
    And I once wanted to live in a block of flats ;) But don't be surprised by your neighbors ...
  • #30 4934066
    K3dz1oR
    Level 11  
    but damn people I don't listen to this music after 10 pm, do they have the right to scare me, the police, if I listen loudly before 10 pm ???

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around DIY soundproofing techniques for a small recording studio in a basement. The user considers using polystyrene and egg cartons for soundproofing but seeks advice on effective attachment methods without drilling. Various participants share their experiences and suggestions, including using acoustic foam, silicone adhesive, and plaster. Some emphasize that while egg cartons can help with echoes, they are not effective for soundproofing against low frequencies. Recommendations include using heavy mineral wool, blankets, and acoustic sponges for better sound absorption. The importance of room dimensions and ratios for acoustic properties is also highlighted, with suggestions to add bookshelves and carpets to improve sound quality. The conversation touches on the challenges of soundproofing in multi-family buildings and the limitations of DIY solutions.
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