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Effective Soundproofing Solutions for Plasterboard Walls & Doors: Materials and Budget Options

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  • #1 3955654
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #2 3955771
    Preskaler
    Level 40  
    The only cheap and effective measure is ... to use headphones! All other methods are expensive, laborious and (to varying degrees) ineffective. Well, maybe the most expensive ones are a bit less ineffective, but they definitely give worse results than headphones.
  • #3 3955876
    lowbird
    Level 23  
    The plaster cardboard box is unlikely to dampen anything, you will always hear the music in the other room, no matter what you put there, unless it is a thick steel plate :D
  • #4 3959356
    glurak
    Level 25  
    There should be mineral wool between the plasterboards, the polystyrene does not dampen the sound too well. The door should be double, soundproofed. This will dampen the highs and mids. The most difficult thing is to get rid of low tones, here you have to use walls with a void in the middle, a floating floor and a suspended ceiling. It's like building a second room in another. The idea of a colleague that a steel plate is a bit flawed, because steel conducts sounds very well, and does not muffle. The Indians already knew about it, putting their ears to the rails, they listened to whether the steel horse was coming ...
  • #5 3959649
    Agencik15
    Level 21  
    I do not know if this is a proven method, but it is quite cheap to dampen the room with cardboard packaging for eggs.
  • #6 3960942
    lowbird
    Level 23  
    glurak wrote:
    ... The idea of a colleague that a steel plate is a bit flawed, because steel conducts sounds very well, and does not muffle. The Indians already knew about it, putting their ears to the rails, they listened to whether the steel horse was coming ...

    Such a metaphor - I do not know if someone decides to remodel the room (walls, ceiling and floor) so that no sound can be heard in the other room.
    Agencik15 wrote:
    I do not know if this is a proven method, but it is quite cheap to dampen the room with cardboard packaging for eggs.

    And who will be normal in his room every day looking at the draws of eggs on the walls, and how to clean it? ; d
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  • #7 3962282
    Matitronik
    Level 16  
    I have to say that cardboard moldings are a good way, and for cardboard moldings it is a gypsum board, of course at distances.
    Once, when my brother made a makeshift studio in his own room, he used polystyrene on the walls (from the inside) and covered it with plasterboards. The problem was that it was only to prevent noise and echo from arising. It is also known that polystyrene furniture will not stick.

    Since we are talking only about soundproofing between rooms so that no sounds are released, I recommend presswork and regips for that.


    greetings
  • #8 3962318
    Agencik15
    Level 21  
    Who's normal ?? It can be masked.
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  • #9 3972217
    matador123
    Level 20  
    It is like this with the suppression of acoustic waves: transmitted sounds are most effectively suppressed by a large weight of the material used, e.g. a brick double wall with an expansion joint filled with e.g. sand. In addition, you need to remember the following rule: an opening in a wall, which is 1% of its surface, will transfer over 95% of the acoustic energy from one room to another. Therefore, all gaps in the door and wall structure should also be sealed. Egg trays will not dampen the sounds "passing" through the wall - they can only improve the acoustics of the room in which you are listening to music. Good luck.
  • #10 3972388
    Tremolo
    Level 43  
    Look for my answer in a different topic. There is practically no such material to ensure 100%, you would have to put together something like an acoustic screen and an anechoic chamber in every direction, as a result, the sound in such a room will be artificial.

    You would need cast iron with between the watts in between

    And the bagasse is for eggs, not for suppression. They distract well, but the sound will eventually hit the gaps somewhere after many reflections and go to the other room.

    proposes to buy good headphones.
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  • #11 3975637
    the_kojot
    Level 15  
    heh as for plaster walls, we are unlucky :D I have one behind the columns :D and I will say this: behind the scana I have much stronger bass than in the room :D :D :D and a wall is always shaking, so is a bathtub behind a wall :D
  • #12 4021432
    Daniel_Zet
    Level 14  
    Hello, I also have a similar problem, with the fact that I am moving now and have a room from scratch, how can I sound it out? any mats or something on the walls?
  • #13 4022214
    ---DjMbass---
    Level 19  
    Currently I have the same problem as the author of the topic, only mine is like this:

    I got a 20m square basement under my own flat and I wanted to do something like a "makeshift studio" or an anechoic chamber (I think that's what it's called), but the problem is that my parents and I live upstairs hehe. I wanted to soundproof the basement so that the sound inside was clear without any echoes and at the same time that there was nothing upstairs, almost nothing you can hear. I have a lot of polystyrene somewhere around 80 square meters 5cm thick (50). My question is whether it will help? What will be the effect inside?

    If I stick it to the walls and ceiling, will it help? maybe something in a different style? any egg trays? e.t.c

    The basement serves us as a place where we can listen to 100% music without any problems - well for some time, because more and more often the neighbors come downstairs to ask for silence, so I want to do something with my basement
    The only problem I still have with this polystyrene is that this basement has 2 rooms, one of them is a gym and the other is the future "studio". If I put polystyrene everywhere in the "studio", the Tempetaura in summer will be very high, which is not good! :(

    Please help! :P
    Greetings!
  • #14 4022515
    przemo-lukas
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    ---DjMbass--- wrote:
    If I put polystyrene everywhere in the "studio", the summer temperature will be very high, which is not good! :(

    Styrofoam (polystyrene) is a thermal insulation material, it does not give heat by itself. So if you have a cool cellar, polystyrene will "heat up" slower in summer.
    I subscribe to what matador123 and 3-pier wrote.
    Recently, the client wanted to "mute" the room / or rather put up a partition wall. It was made of the shape. C50 (main) and U50 (guiding) and GKB boards, two layers on one side (staggered) and glued with gypsum glue "T". We put cork "pads" under the U-profiles. It is easy to guess that a wall placed in such a way has much greater stiffness and mass, so it transmits less resonance (as in columns. Wool went between the boards for wall insulation (higher density). Floor panels for eco-porous board (5.5mm). obligatory spikes, and a granite pedestal was made to increase the weight of the columns. Door without glass (full) made of chipboard (porta Nova pattern), frame and threshold with gasket. :D .
  • #15 8026734
    __FlyMan__
    Level 21  
    Hello, I have the same problem. I do not want to hear the sound in the rooms next door, or if possible at least not that loud. But I have another problem. At the ceiling I have a louder sound and stronger bass than at the height of my armchair. How can I hear the sound right at my height and not at the ceiling?
  • #16 9544879
    dj.Robert
    Level 11  
    The truth is that it is impossible to soundproof a room in 100% because there is always some frequency band that will pass through an obstacle (wall)
    the more that in the subject it is written that it is a plaster wall, however, by using acoustic mats, we can suppress sound that passes through
    through the wall, however, it must be remembered that soundproofing such as mineral wool or acoustic mats suppress most of the sounds only when
    appropriate sound intensity, if you listen too loud, the sound will be transferred to another room ...
    Soundproofing works only in a certain range of sound intensity ... I know from experience that even thick walls of 40 cm after application
    soundproofing given in the examples above (mats masked with gypsum boards) when the sound is loud, they transfer part of the acoustic wave
    through the vibrations of the particles, therefore you can only reduce the transmission of sound, not remove it completely ...

    when it comes to the suggestion to buy headphones, maybe it's a good solution so that the sound does not transfer, but there are no headphones
    so good that they reflect the sound created from good speakers and in the case of people who value sound quality, this solution is not available ...
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  • #17 9562589
    AkuPro
    Level 11  
    Two issues need to be distinguished:

    1) increasing the insulation
    2) Improving the sound of music in the room

    These are 2 different goals that are achieved by different means. The terms "soundproofing" "damping" so often used, they do not give clear information for which purpose.

    For example, our company produces panels that are designed to improve the sound of music in a room, but we do not deal with the issue of acoustic insulation.

    When it comes to insulation, some information:
    It is not easy and cheap fun. Building the room indoors ensures good results. If we have a recording room and a control room, we are building 2 rooms.

    When building walls and floors, we have the following measures at our disposal:
    1) add mass: plasterboard, e.g. double. It is best not to repeat the thickness - plasterboard has its own resonance frequency and by using boards of different thicknesses we will get 2 less severe resonances.

    2) separate the walls from each other so that they do not transmit vibrations. When building partitions, we can build 2 that do not touch each other.
    A good intermediate solution is a wall of the so-called staggered stud wall.

    3) add damping material - most often mineral wool

    4) plug any gaps

    In the case of amateur solutions, first try to plug all gaps: windows, doors. Double seals on the door. The crack under the door.

    Place the studio monitors on a sponge so that they do not transfer dragging to the floor.

    In a situation where there is a lot of bass at the ceiling and little at the listening position, the solution is to use bass traps. They will increase the amount of bass at the listening position, and will blunt any audible resonances which, in turn, are too loud at the listening position.

    I recommend reading the following article (free):

    http://akupro.pl/pdf/Produkcja%20Muzyki%20A%20Akustyka.pdf " target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc" class="postlink inline" title="" > http://akupro.pl/pdf/Produkcja%20Muzyki%20A%20Akustyka.pdf
  • #18 9569083
    SzokalML
    Level 36  
    And I will repeat myself again so that no one will make a mistake:

    Ordinary polystyrene is not suitable for soundproofing, it does not insulate from any sounds.

    - they do not isolate the noise of the egg trays - they only reduce the echo, but even then their use is pointless, they are difficult to place on the wall, they look unsightly, especially in the room. Better to use even the cheapest carpet, blankets, rugs.

    The basis of damping is tightness. A non-soundproof slit door makes it impossible to muffle everything else.

    The cheapest effective material for sound insulation is mineral wool. However, it is a material that must be covered with plasterboard, foil or carpet - because it "dusty".

    Sponge - The new one is expensive, but if someone has access to a cheap sponge ... it does not dust like wool, but in turn it is worse to arrange.

    Wall materials to improve acoustics and eliminate echoes:
    - carpets, rugs, blankets, sponge, acoustic sponge "pyramid", mats. Also "naturally" elements in the room, such as shelves with books.
  • #19 10399465
    Groda xD
    Level 2  
    As for the egg wrapping, it may be unsightly, but a colleague in his studio (such a mini recording room) did the same, because he did not need appearance, but only quality, not to a large extent, but it made him a little smothered
  • #20 10400840
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #21 17047173
    ZdeserowanyJan
    Level 1  
    I do it so that I put a blanket at the door and I can't hear anything :D
  • #22 17049254
    8850
    Level 21  
    There are clothing and industrial companies that cut the material and have waste in the form of blanket or other shredded rags of materials that we can buy or take for free in bags in the form of several dozen pieces. take a panorama of companies from the area and check if a company can generate something like this if you find that it is a good way to calm down and you have a place for it. A colleague of mine used such waste to stuff punching bags. The owner of the company asked if he would collect this waste with a bus or a station wagon for free?

    Maybe it is worth to sew a nice designer fabric (for curtains) with large chambers with rectangles half a meter thick for the entire wall and fill them with this material? Maybe it can be combined with the appearance of the apartment, which I doubt? Currently, the trend is that the walls are not uniform but covered with something protruding, stone and other modular plaster grooves protruding from the walls.

    Professional companies trading in hi-end equipment, such as Nautilus Kraków, offer soundproofing wallpapers. I have also seen solutions stuck in rooms with home cinemas, but it is too expensive solution and it looks like ordinary wallpaper glued with foam one centimeter thick or more.

    If you can and it is possible, reduce the surface and the room by putting in it as many objects as possible absorbing sound waves, such as sofas, pouffes, armchairs and everything that is hairy, fabric and large-size things, but not furniture made of boards.
  • #23 17051501
    Tremolo
    Level 43  
    air gap and thick curtains plus diffusing screens on uninsulated walls (e.g. cylinders). Suspended ceiling and thick floor. Furniture made of boards can be filled, for example, with books. Due to the high density, the paper edges disperse higher frequencies.
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  • #24 17052956
    adambyw
    Moderator of Acoustics
    Tremolo wrote:
    Ceiling

    You have to be careful with the coffered ceiling, because it likes to crackle and resonate with louder music.
  • #25 17056406
    Tremolo
    Level 43  
    What about the so-called stretch ceiling? If it is to resonate like a recorder from a closet, it is probably better to put the fight on the ceiling. IN
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  • #26 17083805
    Grafik0
    Level 3  
    a good solution is mineral wool, in which case it should work.

Topic summary

Effective soundproofing for plasterboard walls and doors involves various materials and techniques. Users suggest that polystyrene alone is insufficient for sound dampening; instead, mineral wool is recommended for better sound insulation. Double soundproofed doors and sealing gaps are crucial to prevent sound transmission. Some users propose unconventional methods like using egg cartons for acoustic treatment, though their effectiveness is debated. The consensus is that achieving complete soundproofing is challenging, and while some materials can reduce sound transmission, none can eliminate it entirely. Headphones are humorously suggested as a simple solution.
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