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VW Touran 2004 1.9TDI Webasto heater activation methods and controls

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  • #1 4259434
    czarny_1963
    Level 21  
    Hello
    I recently bought a Touran from 2004 1.9TDI, I recently had some problems with the steering system, but I solved it somehow, which I wrote about in the post, but I have one more question for professionals, namely the car has webasto because by the way I have noticed that my question is how it can be start, I do not know how this device turns on, is there a remote control that I do not have, whether it turns on by itself or is activated by some buttons in the car.
    Winter is coming, so why not get into a warm car if it is possible.
    Regards.
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  • #2 4259612
    cdsoftware
    Level 13  
    1 what Webasto ?? type model - it is on the housing on the nameplate.
    After 2, it can only be the engine heater, which turns on automatically when the temperature is too low - you can convert them to a full-fledged Webasto with a controller, etc. :)
    After 3, if it is a Webasto, there must be a time switch somewhere - there is a quick-start button on it :)

    Greetings !!
  • #3 4259675
    czarny_1963
    Level 21  
    I just wrote down the description from the nameplate and writes like this

    Webasto Feel the drive
    TT-V
    12v / 42W
    5.0kW
    Diesel / PME
    2.5bar
    Teile-no. 1K0 010 353

    there is still some number 00 018 02 1232

    this is the full description from the nameplate
  • #4 4259699
    cdsoftware
    Level 13  
    Thermo Top V ??
    Look for a timer in the cabin.
    I do not know if in the Touran it was fitted as standard in the factory as an additional heater, or if someone installed it after leaving the showroom ..

    Greetings !!

    PS:
    The quick switch on button is like with a flame - you only need to set the heating to max and the blower to max or not, try what setting the webasto turns on.

    PS2:
    Well, unless someone was up to something and dumped the controls :D
  • #5 4259852
    czarny_1963
    Level 21  
    It looks like it is a factory-installed device because there is a nameplate as if someone made it, I think they would not give such a plate, another thing the device had to work as you can see from the burnt exhaust outlet pipe that qualifies for replacement, there is no clock, unless there is some knif to be attached, I tried, as you said, heating to max and a fan, but I think it's probably not that, but I think that as the sign says webasto, it is not any additional heating, but parking heating and somehow it should be started regardless of the engine's operation, I think that something is actually missing because the car was after an accident and maybe they did not connect something, but I do not know how it will not start, I will look for further but any advice is welcome
  • #6 4260484
    SP7SEC
    Level 29  
    it is an engine heater and when the first frosts come, it will turn on
    some -5
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  • #7 4261120
    czarny_1963
    Level 21  
    that is, I have to understand that only the engine heats up and it only turns on after starting the engine, or otherwise because I have no idea how it works.

    or maybe you can somehow convert some driver so that you can turn on a few minutes before departure, so that it warms up in the car
  • #8 4263392
    SP7SEC
    Level 29  
    Modern engines are more and more efficient and emit less and less heat, so they are not enough to heat the interior in a relatively short time. a cold engine destroys quickly and emits harmful exhaust fumes, so engine heaters are used that start only when the engine starts, you can extend it with a pump that will force the coolant to circulate and then you can heat up when parked, there is only one thing, but that new generation cars have planetary starters and do not require large batteries so there is a problem with enough electricity,
  • #9 4268481
    czarny_1963
    Level 21  
    I think that there is no point in changing something, the more that I still have heated seats and they heat up quite quickly, but I have one more question, I'm thinking the last one, how to check if this webasto works because if it is, it should work, at what temperature should it turn on and can he somehow be heard as I raise the mask
  • #10 4272087
    SP7SEC
    Level 29  
    if you want to force it to work, you need to put plus 12v on the yellow wire
  • #11 5464038
    joker1958
    Level 14  
    And where to look for this yellow wire, I bought a touran I have it a few days I also have a sign that it is webasto and I would like to check if it works under or behind the hiding place it is possible that something is there only what
  • #12 5560984
    joker1958
    Level 14  
    maybe someone who knows webasto-heater on the 8pin plug I have three wires for pin 4 orange-violet for pin 5 violet-yellow for pin 7 orange-gray second plug medium 2 pin pin 1 red-yellow and 2 pin brown there is still a little 2 pin cables have a color of 1pin black 2 pin brown to be connected with a plus to surprise ... greetings ...
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  • #13 5565876
    edek-18
    Level 2  
    Hello, I also bought a Touran and I can not attach webasto, it also has a nameplate with factory-installed webasto and I do not know how to start it, there is a button on the glove box between the front seats and I do not know what it is for
  • #14 5566088
    krecik2003
    Level 13  
    The auxiliary heater turns on when the engine is fired and the outside temperature is
  • #15 5605097
    joker1958
    Level 14  
    I can't locate it on the pit, after removing the wipers and the plastic cover, I can't see anything there, maybe someone can say more precisely where this temperature sensor is located from the webast and whether you are really looking for it there, maybe it is in a different place
  • #16 5607523
    skylark
    Level 25  
    The TTV Touran is not anologically controlled by giving a plus but after Cana VW.
    To my knowledge, without changing the software and adding digital controls, all other attempts are doomed to failure.
  • #17 5607644
    joker1958
    Level 14  
    probably, as you write, no sensor on the pit, mute, I searched carefully, tell me only one where the control takes the temperature outside and whether only analogues have an outside temperature sensor for webasto
  • #18 5608058
    skylark
    Level 25  
    I will not answer you where the external temperature sensor is in Touran and whether it is actually NO-NC. The parking heater does not need to be equipped with an outside temperature sensor (unless they also function as an additional heater). And heaters (e.g. Touran) must necessarily have this information. Perhaps it is taken from the same sensor you have on the display.
  • #19 5610406
    Pitus
    Level 12  
    skylark wrote:
    The TTV Touran is not anologically controlled by giving a plus but after Cana VW.
    To my knowledge, no change software and adding digital controls, all other attempts are doomed to failure.

    What software do you mean?
  • #20 5611019
    skylark
    Level 25  
    Webasto software as pictured below.

    VW Touran 2004 1.9TDI Webasto heater activation methods and controls
  • #21 5611101
    Pitus
    Level 12  
    I suppose such a firmware for eg TT-Z / C with CAN does not exist?
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  • #22 5611312
    cyberkan
    Level 11  
    Hello everyone, I am new to the topic I have a problem
    I have a Touran version T1, i.e. from 2003 to 2005 2.0 tdi AZV engine will describe 3 problems, but I do not want to mess with the topic and the basis is information about webasto (the heater is definitely not a parking heater, only the heater itself)

    And I have a few problems with this car


    1 engine gets something like a break during warming up burns perfect cold but after about 2 minutes it starts to break and jerks the engine after heating it is fairly ok, but it still jerks but it is less noticeable and during these jerks it seems to me that everything dims gently in the car I was on diagnostics and I have no errors in the computer? on warm piles heavier car does not smoke, has power, acceleration, does not choke. the question is does anyone know what this can cause the turnover? I have about 820 is one problem

    2 and this is for this topic, so as not to discuss 1000 problems in one topic

    I have such an error on vag can- commander
    (04b7 steuergeraet fuer zusatzheizung) no communication)

    and the webasto does not turn on, but it will not be because in the morning it is about 5 on + the problem is that where I am and I am in the UK they can not cope with it and with jerking the engine or with webasto I suspect that I do them in garages or others institutions will come out fortune and it will be more profitable to buy a new webasto as they do it
    I checked all connections at the webasto itself, there are 2 plugs connected to it

    webasto is the same as described by my colleague black_1963
    I checked all the relays, but I have no idea which one is from Webasto because I do not have an exact list of fuses from the engine compartment and interior of the vehicle

    The question is, does anyone know if there is a driver for it and what is it, where can I find it in this car or what may be the reason, or whether it has something to do with problem 1 or it is not possible



    3 xenon sprinklers do not work, but this is a cliché with the other 2 problems

    thanks for any advice

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    Sorry for missing letters but the keyboard doesn't write all the characters for me sometimes
  • #23 5611764
    joker1958
    Level 14  
    [quote = "skylark"] Webasto software as pictured below.

    VW Touran 2004 1.9TDI Webasto heater activation methods and controls [/ quote


    I have a vw tourana tdi webasto thermo top-v controlled on the can line, it is probably just a booster, is it enough to upload the software and install a webast switch to also heat up at a standstill or do I have to install something, what is the cost of uploading such software
  • #24 5632130
    cyberkan
    Level 11  
    Hello again, is there anyone who can say anything about the webasto that I wrote above, where can I look for the cause and what is the error as above that the car does not work for a long time

    thanks for any information
  • #25 5752984
    fisch36
    Level 11  
    hello does anyone know where you can find the webasto temperature sensor in touran?
  • #26 5753830
    joker1958
    Level 14  
    the webasto temperature sensor is in webasto and the outside temperature sensor in the front bumper. Inside the webasto thermo top V there are 2 sensors - a temperature sensor and an overheating sensor.
  • #27 5896144
    wasosz74
    Level 2  
    Hello everyone
    In my car, the webasto (engine heater) starts up somewhere at 0 ° C. The problem is as follows
    after starting the cold engine, it does not turn on until you turn on the climatronic, when it starts to work, clouds of smoke come out as if from the place where it is located (on the right), later when the engine warms up a little, less, but even when the engine reaches a temperature of approx. 90 ° still working. After turning off the ignition, you can still hear the work for about 2 minutes (I read in the book that these 2 minutes is the cooling time. Is it true?)

    Best regards and waiting for tips
  • #28 7611045
    LJOZWIAK
    Level 11  
    In my 2007 tour, 1.9 tdi webasto, it works somehow, it smokes terribly, but it has to be like that and it turns on, I don't know when, it often works when I attach this heating panel all the way, but I do not know the end, hardly anyone in Poland understands this device

    greetings

    LJOZWIAK(_at_)go2.pl
  • #29 7701906
    makarenas
    Level 11  
    I recently ran such a Webasto in vw Turan. It was only an additional heater, it turns on automatically at a temperature below 5 degrees. Some models have a remote firing or a button on the dashboard. CAN bus-controlled, fully diagnosed. It has a temperature and overheating sensor. No reserve may be lit After all conditions are met and errors are cleared, it works perfectly.
  • #30 7835013
    LJOZWIAK
    Level 11  
    The car, as I wrote above, TOURAN 1.9 tdi 105, 2007 160 thousand.
    Webasto fires when it wants, recently at temperatures plus 5 also smoking like hell. It turns on every day and the temperature is in the range of -1 to 5 degrees Celsius. I do not understand this device turned on in great frost, but why it turns on at positive temperatures.

    AND OTHER MATTER The fuel consumption on the route is about 5 L per 100 km.
    Urban combustion 12 LITERS per 100, which is the reason for this
    cosmic value? Where to start repairing? where to look
    The power is there, it drives perfectly, only this urban fuel consumption of the KOSMOS I tested
    I refilled many times after driving 100 km and 200 in the city, and always refilled either 12 liters or 24.
    LJOZWIAk(_at_)go2.pl

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around enabling the Webasto heating system in a 2004 VW Touran 1.9 TDI. Users inquire about the operation and activation of the Webasto unit, which is identified as a Thermo Top V model. It is noted that the system may function as an auxiliary engine heater, activating automatically at low temperatures, typically around 0°C. Some users mention the possibility of a remote control for activation, while others suggest that it may require a specific button or timer within the vehicle. There are discussions about wiring connections, including a yellow wire for manual activation, and the need for a forced circulation pump for optimal operation. Users also share troubleshooting tips, including checking for error codes and ensuring proper connections, as well as the potential for software updates to enable additional features. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the specific configuration of the Webasto system in relation to the vehicle's setup.
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