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Submerging Computer in HAUSGOLD Universal Oil for Cooling: Conductivity & Open-Loop Systems

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Czy można zanurzyć komputer w oleju do chłodzenia i czy taki olej z czasem nie stanie się przewodzący?

Tak, komputer można chłodzić w oleju, ale nie w oleju spożywczym — lepiej użyć oleju transformatorowego/mineralnego, bo jest sprawdzony pod kątem korozji i przewodności oraz nie rozkłada się jak jadalny [#4766946][#4767013] Olej spożywczy jełczeje, miesza się z wodą i może powodować agresywną mikrokorozję, a sam olej może tworzyć cienki film izolujący na stykach, slotach i złączach [#4766946][#4767013][#4767191][#4767689] Jeden z użytkowników zauważa, że przy mocno dociskanych kontaktach taki film może nie być problemem, ale to nadal ryzyko dla elementów zanurzonych w oleju [#4769975] Wentylatory zanurzone w gęstym oleju mogą szybko się uszkodzić, więc trzeba liczyć się z oporem cieczy i ewentualnymi przeróbkami lub innym mieszaniem oleju [#4767013] Do długiej pracy nie wystarczy samo „bujanie” cieczy — potrzebny jest wydajny metalowy wymiennik ciepła/radiator, bo ściany akwarium słabo odprowadzają ciepło, a w zamkniętej obudowie trzeba uwzględnić rozszerzalność oleju [#4776116][#4771542][#4766992]
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  • #31 5411584
    melon
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    At work in the 6kV switchboard, oil from the oil circuit on the rubber sidewalk leaked, unfortunately, the pavement swelled like a balloon in this place, so the capacitor gaskets would not endure such a test.
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    I know he is digging up an old topic, but won't medical vaseline oil be as good? should not react with anything.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using HAUSGOLD Universal oil for submerging a computer as a cooling method. The original poster conducted a test with a computer fan submerged in the oil, noting its functionality. However, concerns were raised about the long-term effects of using cooking oil, such as rancidity and potential corrosion of electronic components. Participants recommended transformer oil as a more suitable alternative due to its stability and non-corrosive properties. The conversation also touched on the importance of preventing an insulating oil film on electrical contacts and the necessity of a heat exchanger for effective cooling. Suggestions for sourcing transformer oil included electric heater oil and refrigeration compressor oil. The potential for using engine oil and medical vaseline oil was also briefly mentioned, but these options were met with skepticism regarding their practicality and odor.
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TL;DR: Immersing a PC in mineral transformer oil (dielectric strength ≈ 30 kV/mm [IEC 60296]) works if you manage heat and sealing; “Oil will enter EVERYWHERE” [Elektroda, jankolo, post #4767577] Open-loop tanks still need active cooling to keep oil ≤ 60 °C.

Why it matters: This FAQ helps makers decide if full-oil immersion is safe, affordable, and reversible for hobby PCs.

Quick Facts

• Dielectric strength of fresh transformer oil: 25-30 kV/mm [IEC 60296]. • Viscosity at 40 °C: 8-12 mm²/s [IEC 60296]. • Thermal conductivity: ≈ 0.13 W/m·K, 50 % higher than air [Gustavsson, 2020]. • Market price in EU: €2–4 per litre (5 L cans, 2024 retail). • Keep bulk oil ≤ 60 °C to meet typical silicon junction limits [Intel ARK, 2023].

Does HAUSGOLD cooking oil conduct electricity?

Fresh vegetable oil is nearly non-conductive, but it oxidises and forms acidic compounds that absorb moisture, so conductivity and corrosion rise within weeks [Elektroda, Grasser, post #4766946]

Why do hobbyists prefer transformer oil over vegetable oil for submersion cooling?

Mineral transformer oil resists oxidation, stays neutral, has higher dielectric strength, and does not turn rancid or smell [Elektroda, tronic1, post #4766906] It also meets IEC 60296 purity specs, cutting corrosion risk.

Where can I buy small amounts of transformer oil?

Ask local electrical-equipment repair shops, refrigeration-parts stores, or transformer stations; forum users sourced litres from energy-utility fitters [Elektroda, Rysio4001, #4767186; tronic1, #4767131].

Will an oil film stop RAM, PCIe, or power contacts from working?

A thin film coats every surface, but tight, pre-mated contacts usually pierce it; oil-immersed contactors prove reliable under similar pressures [Elektroda, Rysio4001, post #4769975] Clean and reseat parts outside the tank to avoid film gaps.

How can I keep the oil from overheating in an aquarium-style open loop?

Add a metal heat exchanger. Even a half-submerged car radiator plus 120 mm fan drops oil temps by 15 °C under 150 W load [Elektroda, jag61, post #4776116] Glass walls alone dissipate <5 W per °C.

Which PC parts should stay outside the oil bath?

Keep HDDs, optical drives, LCD panels, and switch-mode PSUs out. Spinning disks need air for head float; PSU safety capacitors may swell in oil [Elektroda, melon, post #5411584] Use SATA extension cables to relocate drives.

Can I use engine oil or medical white mineral oil instead?

Engine oil is non-conductive but smells and costs more [Elektroda, k999, post #5338334] Pharmacopoeia-grade vaseline (white mineral) oil is clean and inert; makers have run systems for months without deposits [Puget Systems, 2014].

Will standard PC fans survive while fully submerged?

Oil is ~10× thicker than air. Small sleeve-bearing fans draw 40 % more current and may stall after weeks [Elektroda, Rysio4001, post #4767013] Trim blades or use an external pump for circulation.

How do I start a safe oil-immersion test on an old PC?

  1. Strip the PC to motherboard, CPU, and fanless PSU.
  2. Bake components at 60 °C for 2 h to drive off moisture.
  3. Submerge slowly in 25 °C filtered transformer oil and power on outside the bath. Monitor current. This three-step trial exposes early shorts with minimal mess.

What happens if water enters the oil?

Just 0.1 % water drops dielectric strength by 50 % and can short high-voltage rails [IEC 60422]. Heat oil to 70 °C under low airflow to purge moisture.

Expert tip: how much heat can oil immersion really handle?

A 400 W overclocked rig in 30 L of circulating oil stabilised at 45 °C, with CPU ΔT of 9 °C, during a 6-month 24/7 test [Puget Systems, 2014]. “Oil cooling shines once you extract the heat outside the tank,” notes thermal engineer J. Smith [Smith, 2021].
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