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Bosch AL 3640 CV Charger: Guide to Charging 36V Lithium Cell Packs & Utilizing Bus Contact

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  • #1 5079621
    terty
    Level 13  
    I have a Bosch AL 3640 CV charger designed to charge 36V lithium batteries in power tools and I want to use it to charge a 36V lithium cell pack. The problem is that when I connect the package to the charger contacts (+ and -), nothing happens, it does not charge. The charger has a third contact marked as "bus" and requires some signal / voltage to be applied to it, without it it will not start charging. I don't have the original battery to check what and how should be connected there.

    Maybe someone has such a disassembled battery or some photos of it, or knows how to make this charger work?

    Bosch AL 3640 CV Charger: Guide to Charging 36V Lithium Cell Packs & Utilizing Bus Contact
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  • #2 7289321
    rolar
    Level 11  
    Well, there are two of us.
    I also have this charger and I know what needs to be done to make it work, but it's not that simple.
    First, a warning. If you have a package of 10 li-ion cells, connecting it directly to the charger will not be of much use. It is enough for one cell to charge faster, exceed the voltage of 4.2 V and it will be over. I know this from experience, because I use a Makita 10.8 V charger (a package of three cells in a row) and at the beginning I connected the cells without protection. Li-ion cells from power tool batteries have a built-in protection against overcharging, but most of the available cells (e.g. 18x65 laptop cells) do not have such protection. So you have to get a balancer, which will not only equalize the capacity of the batteries, but also will not allow you to overcharge individual cells.
    But how to start the charger.
    The third pin is an output to some thermistor that disconnects charging when the battery temperature increases. In the case of Makita, I took this device from a used battery and the charger charges me a package with 5 times greater capacity than the company's one (of course with an attached balancer).
    Now I have built a battery with 50 36 V li-ion cells to drive the motor in the bicycle wheel and I would like to use the charger mentioned in the post. My battery has a total capacity of 11 Ah.
    I have to buy a balancer (for 12 cells it costs about PLN 280) and start the charger.
    Unfortunately, it is difficult to get a used battery for this charger.
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  • #3 7302828
    Deltabox84
    Level 10  
    It just so happened that I work in the production of these batteries, so tomorrow I will write you what you need to have for it to work. Most likely, a Bosch thermistor is to be connected there to protect the cells from overheating, or a resistor with the appropriate impedance, I'm not sure.
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  • #4 7315761
    rafałskrzetuski
    Level 12  
    I am in the same situation as you, please expand the topic, I would gladly order such a modification of the charger for a package of 100 3.6 V Li-ion (1400 mA) cells for a bicycle with an electric motor. I already have a BOSCH charger, but it does not start ... contact Ogro(_at_)op.pl
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  • #5 12670415
    Anonymous
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  • #6 14821701
    Piotr2608

    Level 41  
    Replace the 180 k? resistor right next to the 150 uF / 400V capacitor.
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