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Deregistering a car when selling for parts?

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  • #31 5384261
    josef1402
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    Some dismantling stations will take the vehicle incomplete and issue sails.
    You do not necessarily pay something for scrapping a vehicle that is not complete
    You should get something for a complete vehicle. A colleague for a seat Toledo got PLN 600
    It is worth browsing the local newspapers with advertisements and looking for such an auto-scrap
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    toxi_14
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    In that case, it would be good to get along with someone from scrap metal who can issue a certificate of scrapping, so that they can issue you this certificate for a fee, without returning it there (if you sell it for parts, I think he will come back)
    Greetings
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    tkordus
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    toxi_14 wrote:
    In that case, it would be good to get along with someone from scrap metal who can issue a certificate of scrapping, so that they can issue you this certificate for a fee, without returning it there (if you sell it for parts, I think he will come back)
    Greetings


    I already wrote it once, but someone deleted my post ...

    You can also get along with a local chew and sign a contract for the purchase / sale of the car and the car to be scrapped at the scrap price. We don't have a problem, and the jug is enjoying the bottle.
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    graczykshow
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    I would send everything I can and I would take the shupoo away for scrapping and that's it! It's interesting what they would say because I see that they do this for me
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    DJ Max
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    I asked to open the topic so that I could answer the question myself - I hope it will be useful to someone someday.

    After searching, I found the content of the relevant act:
    ACT of January 20, 2005 on the recycling of end-of-life vehicles.

    I am just citing paragraphs that interest someone who sells a vehicle for parts:

    Chapter 1
    general rules
    Art. 1.
    1. The Act defines the rules for dealing with end-of-life vehicles in a manner that protects human life and health, and protects the environment in accordance with the principle of sustainable development.
    2. In matters relating to the handling of end-of-life vehicles in the scope not regulated in the Act, the provisions on waste shall apply.

    Chapter 3
    Vehicle Ownership Responsibilities
    Art. 18.
    The owner of the end-of-life vehicle may hand it over only to the entrepreneur running the disassembly station or the entrepreneur running the vehicle collection point.
    Art. 19.
    The owner of the end-of-life vehicle or a person authorized by him, when handing the vehicle over to the entrepreneur running the disassembly station or the entrepreneur running the vehicle collection point, is obliged to show:
    1) ID card or other document confirming identity;
    2) the vehicle registration certificate and the vehicle card, if it was issued, or another document confirming the data contained in the registration certificate;
    3) proof of ownership in the case of the owner of the vehicle other than that entered in the registration certificate.
    Art. 20.
    The owner of the end-of-life vehicle is obliged to submit an application for deregistration of the vehicle within 30 days from the date of receipt of the certificate of disassembly of the vehicle or the certificate of acceptance of an incomplete vehicle.

    Chapter 4
    Obligations of entrepreneurs operating disassembly stations
    Art. 23.
    1. The entrepreneur operating the disassembly station is obliged to accept each end-of-life vehicle that has the vehicle identification features referred to in Art. 66 sec. 3a point 1 of the Act of June 20, 1997 - Road Traffic Law, subject to paragraph 7.
    2. The entrepreneur operating the disassembly station, when accepting the end-of-life vehicle, may charge a fee from the owner of the vehicle, subject to paragraph. 3 and 6.
    3. The entrepreneur running the disassembly station does not charge the fee referred to in sec. 2, if the following conditions are jointly met:
    1) the vehicle is registered in the territory of the country, in accordance with separate regulations;
    2) end-of-life vehicle:
    a) is complete,
    (b) does not contain other waste that does not come from the vehicle.
    4. A complete vehicle is considered a vehicle that contains all essential elements and its mass is not less than 90% of the vehicle mass.
    5. In the case of accepting an incomplete end-of-life vehicle from the owner, the fee referred to in sec. 2, may not exceed the amount of PLN 10 per 1 kg of missing vehicle weight.
    7. The entrepreneur operating the disassembly station may refuse to accept an incomplete vehicle, if the owner of the vehicle refuses to pay the fee referred to in sec. 2.
    8. The minister responsible for transport, in consultation with the minister responsible for the environment, taking into account the requirements of environmental protection, the need to ensure the completeness of vehicles in order to obtain the appropriate levelsrecovery and recycling and counteracting the improper management of waste, shall determine, by regulation, a list of essential elements of the vehicle referred to in paragraph 1. 4.
    Art. 25.
    1. In the case of accepting a vehicle that does not meet the conditions specified in Art. 23 sec. 3 point 2 lit. a, the entrepreneur running the disassembly station is obliged to issue a certificate of acceptance of the incomplete vehicle. The provisions of Art. 24 sec. 1 point 1 and sec. 2-4 shall apply accordingly.

    Chapter 8
    Penal provisions
    Art. 48.
    Who, contrary to the provision of art. 18 does not transfer the end-of-life vehicle to the entrepreneur running the disassembly station or the entrepreneur running the vehicle collection point, shall be punishable by a fine.
    Art. 50.
    Who, apart from the disassembly station, performs:
    1) removal from end-of-life vehicles of hazardous elements or substances, including liquids,
    2) dismantling from end-of-life vehicles items of equipment or parts suitable for reuse,
    3) dismantling of elements suitable for recovery or recycling from end-of-life vehicles
    - is punishable by a fine.


    My comment on this - in general, the Polish state makes it impossible to sell cars for parts on its own, and even to take out parts for your own use.
    Of course, there are also laws on environmental protection, etc. etc ....
    And what should I do when I have the opportunity to buy a car body in perfect condition, it would be enough to change the drive and deregister the old shack ...?
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    stomat
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    Well, not really. Disposal is necessary, we have already achieved such a level that we can afford it, but the sick thing is that you cannot temporarily deregister the vehicle. They seem to support the Union, but in DE or other normal countries, you can easily deregister the vehicle and put it in the garden and then register it again. Why not in Poland?
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    stomat wrote:
    Well, not really. Disposal is necessary, we have already achieved such a level that we can afford it, but the sick thing is that you cannot temporarily deregister the vehicle. They seem to support the Union, but in DE or other normal countries, you can easily deregister the vehicle and put it in the garden and then register it again. Why not in Poland?

    A friend receives a triple gilded spade for digging up a thread from almost 11 years ago!

    Buddy, if this is paranoid for you, I will give you my case - I had a trailer N126 on my plot, unregistered when it was still possible to do it (before 1989 or something). We wanted to bring the trailer into service (healthy, galvanized frame, no rust), the money went to renovate the interior and it turned out that the vehicle that had been deregistered more than 25 years ago, cannot be re-registered (because ...? Some ecology .. .? what kind of devil ...?).
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    Tumiwisizm
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    To the author of the topic:
    Look for advertisements on OLX, where "they will buy every car" or "vehicle scrapping", call and ask if you need to return the car to them in full, or if you can take whatever you want (except for the engine, battery and gearbox, unfortunately). I did so, the Gypsy came and took the skeleton, because I twisted what he could :-P , paid PLN 250 and took the scrap piece. What I took is known for resale.
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    fabians
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    stomat wrote:
    Well, not really. Disposal is necessary, we have already achieved such a level that we can afford it, but the sick thing is that you cannot temporarily deregister the vehicle. They seem to support the Union, but in DE or other normal countries, you can easily deregister the vehicle and put it in the garden and then register it again. Why not in Poland?

    Politicians care more about corporations than about people. This can be seen in their various actions. In Poland, it is impossible to deregister temporarily, because insurance companies will lose. That's the only reason. I would like to add that people even believed it, that when they introduced it, it would be a TPL increase, because companies had to make a deal on their herd .. On the other hand, it is a positive thing for them. For example, as Janusz pays civil liability insurance for a standing car for 8 months, it is convenient for them, because it does not pose a risk of a collision, and thus the costs of the insurance company.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the legal process of deregistering a car intended for parts sale, particularly in Poland. Users emphasize the necessity of scrapping the vehicle at an authorized dismantling station to obtain a certificate of destruction, which is required for deregistration. It is noted that selling a car for parts without proper deregistration can lead to legal complications, as the vehicle remains registered to the original owner until the new owner registers it. Participants share insights on the potential for receiving payment for scrap metal and the importance of adhering to environmental regulations regarding vehicle disposal. The conversation also touches on the challenges of deregistering incomplete vehicles and the implications of selling a car without proper documentation.
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FAQ

TL;DR: In Poland, 90 % vehicle-weight rule decides free scrapping; “In order for the vehicle to be deregistered, it must be disposed of.” [Elektroda, robokop, post #5381425] Authorized yards give a disassembly certificate—file it within 30 days or risk fines.

Why it matters: This FAQ helps private sellers avoid fines, lost insurance money and legal trouble when breaking a car for parts.

Quick Facts

• Free scrapping if the car keeps ≥ 90 % of its factory weight. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917] • Fee for missing mass: up to 10 PLN per kg. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917] • Deregistration request must reach the County Office within 30 days of receiving the certificate. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917] • Authorized stations issue “certificate of disassembly” that lets you end mandatory TPL insurance. [Elektroda, andk1eltd, post #5379714] • Selling without buyer registration leaves the vehicle under your CEPIK record—and liability. [Elektroda, robokop, post #5382717]

How do I legally deregister a car in Poland if I want to sell it for parts?

  1. Tow the complete car (≥ 90 % weight) to an authorized dismantling station.
  2. Receive the disassembly certificate and perforated plates on the spot. [Elektroda, Spitor, post #5381907]
  3. File a deregistration application with the County Office within 30 days. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917] Once approved, your TPL insurance can be cancelled.

What documents will the dismantling yard give me?

You receive: 1) certificate of disassembly (or certificate of acceptance for incomplete car); 2) perforated licence plates; 3) a confirmation of vehicle weight. These three papers form the legal basis for deregistration. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917]

Do I have to pay to scrap an old car?

No, if the vehicle is complete. Yards often pay 0.8–1.0 PLN per kg of steel, yielding ~600 PLN for a 1200 kg car. [Elektroda, Awdeg, post #5379268] Payments drop or flip to fees when crucial parts are missing.

Can I just sell the car to a friend and avoid deregistration paperwork?

That trick fails. Until the buyer registers, CEPIK still shows you as owner; fines, tax, and TPL liability remain yours. [Elektroda, robokop, post #5382717]

Is temporary deregistration or garden storage allowed in Poland?

Polish law offers no temporary deregistration for passenger cars; only scrapping withdraws a vehicle from traffic. [Elektroda, stomat, post #17737100] Placing an un-deregistered car in your garden still requires paid insurance.

May I remove parts myself before scrapping?

Removing engines, fluids or batteries outside an authorized station breaches Art. 48 & 50 of the 2005 Recycling Act and risks fines. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917] "Dismantling happens legally only at licensed yards," notes a transport-law expert. [Ustawa, 2005]

How quickly must I apply for deregistration after getting the certificate?

You have 30 calendar days, after which municipal officials can impose administrative penalties. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917]

What happens to my mandatory third-party liability insurance once the car is deregistered?

Submit the deregistration decision to your insurer; they must terminate the contract and refund any unused premium. [Elektroda, andk1eltd, post #5379714]

What fines apply if I dismantle the vehicle myself on my property?

Illegal dismantling can trigger environmental and waste-management fines starting at 500 PLN, plus civil liability for any pollution. [Elektroda, DJ Max, post #5406917]

How can I maximise the money I get when scrapping?

  1. Drain fuel but keep heavy items like engine and gearbox installed to meet the 90 % rule.
  2. Compare yard rates; some pay 50–80 PLN more per tonne than others.
  3. Deliver paperwork and ID to speed processing—time is money. Edge-case: incomplete cars returned by tow truck may generate a net bill, not a payment.

Buyer never registered my sold car and racked up camera fines—what now?

Provide the sale agreement to police and the County Office as proof of vehicle transfer; you still may face civil action until the buyer registers. Legal experts advise sending a written demand to the buyer and notifying your insurer immediately. [Elektroda, JollyRoger, post #5383223]
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