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Creating Transparent Plastic Duplicates: Mold Making, Materials & Steps for Replication

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  • #1 5902051
    bzyq90
    Level 18  
    Hello, I wanted to make a few duplicates of the plastic shown in the picture below.
    The plastic is red, it is translucent.
    I want to make the same plastic, only that it is transparent.
    Where to start? What to make a form of and how to make duplicates?
    I read a few topics but they were of a different type and they didn't help me.
    Creating Transparent Plastic Duplicates: Mold Making, Materials & Steps for Replication
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  • #2 5902301
    daduszeryf
    Level 28  
    Hi. In amateur conditions, it is not possible to make molds and make injections. The granules are injected heated and under high pressure. The molds are made by specialized companies and are very expensive. Profitability only with very large amounts of injection. There are small manual injection machines with a heater and a manual lever a hot mass is pressed in, e.g. a LED holder, but the mold must be in two parts to remove the element and e.g. the mold for such a holder is 15mm thick.
  • #3 5902719
    bzyq90
    Level 18  
    Is there any possibility of making it out of transparent material? Maybe bend the plexiglass? Although I have tried once and it is very difficult to fit such a shape. Is there a transparent agent that spreads evenly? Or is it possible to make one form, pour a filler into it and press the other inner form down so that this substance spills out to the sides?
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  • #4 5903363
    anomelif
    Level 12  
    For simple shapes, you can make a plaster mold, for more complex ones (within reason, of course), sanitary silicone. The silicone mold stays for quite a long time (several days), but it is flexible and much more durable. You can use a synthetic resin as casting material, e.g. two-component distal glue or the like. If you use transparent glue, you can color it with powdered pigments, the cast will be dull.
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  • #5 5903643
    daduszeryf
    Level 28  
    Hello. One side of the mold can be made of a special resin. You pour a resin on your slides which, when it solidifies, is like rubber, you remove it, or if you want to fill in the missing form, or add it if something is missing. you smear the pattern with a special wax you paint it with a special gelcoat you put pieces of mat on the gelcoat which you soak with resin and after drying you have a hoof you do the same with the hoof and you have a form.You do the same with the other side and you have complete form. you will pour the resin and this way you can make a cast resin. Only there is always a problem with air bubbles. I worked in a factory where it was done so I know what problems they had.
  • #6 5944919
    KRZY-KACZ
    Level 11  
    There is one method that is widely used by aviation modellers, although I am afraid that it will be difficult to perform this method due to the mounting hooks. Take a plexiglass plate and heat it in oil to the soft temperature, you can see it because it becomes like jelly. after the procedure, you put it in a plaster or plywood mold and squeeze it. It cools down very quickly, but in the mold it must remain for about 1 hour.
  • #7 5949546
    qrdel
    Level 28  
    A solution of plexiglas in methylene chloride can be prepared.
    Clean - dries to form a clear block of plexiglass again.
    Maybe if you made a half-mold - only the outer side in silicone rubber and "add" layers to the appropriate thickness, something would come out.
    Of course, the solution must be colored.
    WARNING - methylene chloride is toxic, vapors heavier than air, harmful if swallowed and inhaled, irritating to the skin.
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  • #8 5959931
    program185
    Level 14  
    Maybe I'll give you a hint that I saw them make glass panes of plexiglass. I only know that 150 ° C and 30 minutes after this treatment, you have a moment to adjust, but it fits like paper on a mold. Quick and painless. Try it, maybe it will work out.
  • #11 8658706
    Aston1111
    Level 10  
    Hello

    I will connect to the topic. I'm going to make a clamp like in the photo and I'm thinking about the choice of ingredients. For the mold casting I wanted to use this silicone http://allegro.pl/najlepszy-silikon-do-form-1kg-twardszy-i1274650704. html
    There is something better :?:
    The second and most important thing is the material for the clamp, what do you suggest :?:
    It must be plastic enough not to crack when crimped on the tubes and hard enough to hold on to them.
    Thanks in advance for all the tips


    Creating Transparent Plastic Duplicates: Mold Making, Materials & Steps for Replication
  • #12 9955540
    dafu
    Level 12  
    Hello
    The above topics are probably no longer relevant, but my answer may be helpful to others - looking for similar solutions.
    In our company / PLASTKOM /, which makes injection molds and plastic details, we encounter problems that usually concern prototypes.
    In the case when the number of details is a few pieces and there is no financial means to make even a trial injection mold / from several hundred to several thousand zlotys / the cheapest solution is the replacement technology:
    a) making a detail from a plastic block by machining - with this method I would make the above "clamp";
    b) gravity casting of chemically hardened plastics (polyester resin, epoxy resin, or types of technical silicones), provided that their properties and the obtained accuracy of the product are adequate to the expectations;
    c) execution of the detail using the 3D printing method, the cost of which is close to the development of a trial form;
    d) if the shape of the product allows it / coating - e.g. lampshade casing /, you can try to make a varnished plaster or wooden mold and use the technology of vacuum forming / sheet / or a combination thereof.
    The detail placed in the first thread post is rather difficult to make with a substitute technology / transparency and non-unfolding surfaces /. The only sensible solution seems to be trying to form it with the vacuum method and then stick /? / Some elements.
    And, for using the word "plastic" I was once thrown out of class, with the comment that plastic is used by engineers, not engineers :D
  • #13 10127957
    ^saint^
    Level 11  
    Today I found something that interested me (American Restoration episode 28). Making the mold and the cast of the indicator, unfortunately in the program they only said "plastic" so I have no idea what type it is, but as you can see it can be done in "home conditions".
    Creating Transparent Plastic Duplicates: Mold Making, Materials & Steps for Replication

    The mold is two-piece, first they made the outer form (securing the inside with clay), then they made the inner casting. Unfortunately, the process is not described in detail, I wonder what the surfaces of the outer form in the place of contact with the inner form? You can also see the protrusions in the outer mold (for precise assembly of both parts of the mold.

    The biggest mystery is what they poured into the form?
  • #14 10128072
    Ryszard49
    Level 38  
    Hello.
    We cut off unnecessary discussions, in amateur conditions the project is not feasible.
    I propose to close the topic in order not to lower the level of the forum. The attached photos show that the elements were made in professional forms. Something like this cannot be done in the forms proposed by forum members participating in the discussion. I suggest removing posts that do not add anything to the topic.
    Greetings.
  • #15 10128238
    ^saint^
    Level 11  
    Somehow I do not see these "professional forms", at the beginning the plastic is pressed into the clay, in addition, these protrusions are reflected in it, which serve to harmonize the two parts of the mold, there are no specialized tools. The only question is the padding used.
  • #16 10129653
    dafu
    Level 12  
    Ryszard49 wrote:
    Hello.
    We cut off unnecessary discussions, in amateur conditions the project is not feasible.
    I propose to close the topic in order not to lower the level of the forum. The attached photos show that the elements were made in professional forms. Something like this cannot be done in the forms proposed by forum members participating in the discussion. I suggest removing posts that do not add anything to the topic.
    Greetings.

    Friend Ryszard!
    I propose to lower the oracle a little :D DD
    The method shown in the photos was made by my six-year-old son :D DD.
    Could the six-year-old be a better specialist than all those taking part in the discussion?
    The method is as old as molding is!
    Having a detail, we make a form / matrix + stamp / of e.g. silicone; and then pour the complex set with colored chemosetting resin / see a few posts above /. Not only was it shown that it could use a vibrating table, and many other details :)
    Summarizing: it can be done, but don't expect fireworks :(
  • #17 10132195
    sq9jjh
    Electrician specialist
    Ryszard49 wrote:
    ... I propose to close the topic in order not to lower the forum level ...

    You say, and you have. I close the topic.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around creating transparent plastic duplicates from a red translucent plastic sample. Users explore various methods for mold making and casting, emphasizing the challenges of achieving transparency. Suggestions include using plaster or silicone molds for simple and complex shapes, respectively, and employing synthetic resins or two-component glues for casting. Techniques such as heating plexiglass and using methylene chloride solutions are discussed, along with the importance of avoiding air bubbles during the casting process. The feasibility of these methods in amateur settings is debated, with some participants expressing skepticism about achieving professional-quality results without specialized equipment.
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