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Understanding Impedance: Comparing 4 Ohm vs. 8 Ohm Speakers in Audio Quality

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  • #1 651010
    karmel67
    Level 11  
    I have a question. What is the difference between an 8 ohm speaker and a 4 ohm speaker??? Is there any difference in listening?? :)
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  • #2 651038
    monjan5
    Level 21  
    4 and 8 are the matching of the speaker impedance to the amplifier output.
    Output 4 you give speaker 8 and you lose power
    Output 8 you give speaker 4 and lose the speaker
    greetings.monika
  • #3 651068
    Sound Wave
    Accoustics specialist
    ad 2 you lose the amplifier :D
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  • #5 651348
    ADAMM_85
    Level 17  
    Why are 6ohms the best??? Your real name is Monika, that would indicate => a girl interested in acoustics!!! Interesting :D
  • #6 651520
    WoŹnY
    Level 28  
    these 4 ohms are usually "louder" at the same volume potentiometer setting. Why :?: count the power :!: from the formula: P=u^2/R Of course, if the amplifier allows it ;)
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  • #7 651953
    Falco76
    Level 25  
    :D :D :D :D , the best speakers are 6 Ohms, because it will melt. If this was supposed to be a joke, it worked
  • #8 652000
    DoctorX
    Level 23  
    this burning thing is nonsense... I'm talking about burning the amplifier or loudspeaker - I tried a 4 ohm speaker with at least 5 amplifiers and nothing happened, and I also use it as a test speaker for car audio.
    Well, maybe everything is getting a little hotter... :)
  • #9 652022
    Deamon :)
    Level 21  
    Most new amplifiers work at 4 and 8 Ohm, but old amplifiers (especially Polish ones) were very sensitive to it. Most were only 8Ohm and after connecting a 4Ohm speaker the terminals simply fell off. :( although not always....
  • #10 652641
    WoŹnY
    Level 28  
    Quote:
    Output 8 you give speaker 4 and lose the speaker


    As Deamon writes :) you lose the amplifier, not the speaker :D
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  • #11 652867
    karmel67
    Level 11  
    so for an 8 ohm speaker I also need an 8 ohm amplifier? :) and to 4 ohms... 4 ohms? :P and is it seriously true that 4 ohms sound better??????
  • #12 652877
    Deamon :)
    Level 21  
    If you have speakers with identical parameters, differing only in resistance, they will sound the same.
    Ps.4 Ohm can play louder, but only because of the amplifier.
    Regards
  • #13 653014
    DoctorX
    Level 23  
    similarly, a 1 ohm loudspeaker would play even louder. Some manufacturers even provide parameters of amplifiers with a load of one ohm, resistance is just crap that causes losses in the current flow, which causes the elements to heat up, etc. Impedance, however, ehm... is a different topic
    As for our domestic amplifiers, maybe this was actually the case - I remembered the WS354, which burned down, probably because of the 4 ohm speaker, but I'm not entirely sure... it's old news.
  • #14 653183
    irek2
    Level 40  
    Sure, Falco, these 6 ohms are a joke :)
    They ask difficult questions on the forum and I don't know what to write :)
    The truth is, however, that most multi-channel receivers cannot cope with 4 ohm speakers and even if they do not burn, the power will be pathetic.
  • #15 653770
    micho a
    Level 35  
    something strange, Polish 8 ohm amplifiers burn from 4 ohms hmmmmm :?
    and I tortured an 8-ohm amateur 3 stereo with almost 2 ohms for 1 hour (of course with a wired fuse 8) and nothing happened :)
    Yes, there was a microwave inside and it got so hot, but it didn't burn :)
    I connected the 8 ohm ws303 to the 4 ohm lw1200 and it worked too :)
    everything was getting very hot, but after 1.5 hours nothing burned :)
    unitra aida also 8 ohm 4 ohm lw1200 also a microwave but even the fuse didn't work and here it wasn't wired :)
    but it's a different matter with old 8 ohm crap (stk).
    as soon as you connect 4 ohms, you're dead within half an hour :(

    and as for which ones are the best......
    I propose a 1 ohm speaker :lol: I got one from qmpl, the coil was damaged but I was unaware of it and connected it to an 8 ohm amplifier... 8) after 5 minutes, smoke started coming out from the amplifier which was playing at 1/4 power, 8O, I turned it off and measured the resistance, and here it was 1 ohm 8O
    but it played loudly :lol: :lol:
  • #16 653779
    Deamon :)
    Level 21  
    micho, don't be picky because I wrote that it's not always...
    Greetings
  • #17 653915
    karmel67
    Level 11  
    aha, so I conclude from what micho wrote that I can drive 4 ohm speakers with an 8 ohm amplifier? I understood?? :] of course I won't do this. I have 4 ohm speakers and I need to buy a 4 ohm amplifier for them??? tell me plz ;] Regards!!!
  • #18 654054
    micho a
    Level 35  
    :arrow: deamon, I'm not picking on you, spox :) I'm just telling you what's going on with Diors :)
    :arrow: karmel67 I'm just writing my practical experience, but up to 4 ohms it's better to use a 4 ohm amplifier, in general 4 ohms are better, because if you connect 8 ohms to 4 ohms, you will lose power, but it will heat up less and the chance of it burning out is very small, and if the speaker is 4 ohms it's normal :)
    however, if you connect 4 ohms to 8 ohms, the woman told her fortunes in two :D 1 will last for 8 hours, it will get so hot that you can't touch the transformer or the radiator, but one will last for 20 minutes, 4 ohms and that's it so a 4 ohm amplifier will support 4 ohm loudspeakers
  • #19 654056
    Macias+-
    Level 20  
    if you have 4 ohm speakers, if you buy such an amplifier you will be able to play calmly, but you can also risk playing with an 8 ohm amplifier, let's say you have a 50% chance that it won't burn out

    the point is that if the amplifier is e.g. 2x20W only at 8 ohms, if you connect a 4 ohm speaker, the amplifier will have to put out about 30W and it may not be able to withstand it and the power amplifier will burn up, but sometimes it doesn't burn up so you can risk it. :D
  • #20 654094
    Pi-Vo
    Level 37  
    Someone once wrote on the forum that the same model of a 4- and 8-ohm loudspeaker is not the same, it differs in some parameter and, for example, it must be taken into account when calculating the casing and under no circumstances should the 4-ohm to 8-ohm loudspeaker be replaced in the same column because it will no longer fit. .I didn't want to argue, but it seemed nonsense to me. I can't find this post because I would give a link.
  • #21 654499
    karmel67
    Level 11  
    ok, I'm slowly starting to rant about what the heck... :D I'm going to the stock exchange on Saturday, so I'm buying a 4 ohm amplifier. and what about 8 ohms and these voltage drops? It's still a long road ahead of me :P
  • #22 657562
    Falco76
    Level 25  
    Pi-Vo, you talked about these differences... When I was building a sub on LW800, I also noticed differences between 4 and 8 Ohm

    Qts Qms Qes Vas
    4 - 0.51 2.96 0.62 30
    8 - 0.41 2.41 0.55 29

    The fact that we shouldn't replace them under any circumstances probably meant the crossovers.
  • #23 658079
    Sound Wave
    Accoustics specialist
    well, my lion has 800 (4).
    Qts 0.4
    Fs34
    Vas 31
    Qms2,486
    qes 0.486
    these are the measurement results... so what alphard says can be taken today.....
  • #24 658129
    piotrek_bak
    Level 22  
    as for the Polish amplifiers, I have a Polkata chord 41 and my friend didn't know, he connected the speakers to the cap, then when I checked it turned out to be 2 ohms... and the 4 ohm amplifier didn't burn anything, but the transistors got a little warm... a little bit because it never happened there they don't play :-)
  • #25 662486
    eqt
    Level 26  
    :P i-Vo
    Theoretically, loudspeakers made in a similar way have parameters independent of the rated impedance, but in practice either 4 ohms are used in the same slot and then the differences are tangible, and even when the slot is changed there will be minimal differences due to the production processes.

Topic summary

The discussion centers on the differences between 4 ohm and 8 ohm speakers, particularly in relation to amplifier compatibility and audio performance. It is noted that 4 ohm speakers can generally produce louder sound at the same volume setting compared to 8 ohm speakers, due to the power output characteristics of amplifiers. However, using a 4 ohm speaker with an 8 ohm amplifier can risk damaging the amplifier, especially in older models that are less tolerant of impedance mismatches. Participants also mention that while impedance affects power handling and heat generation, speakers with identical parameters but different impedances will sound the same. The conversation touches on practical experiences with various amplifiers and speakers, emphasizing the importance of matching speaker impedance to amplifier specifications to avoid potential damage.
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