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Connecting Speakers in Series & Parallel: Increasing & Decreasing Ohms, Formulas & Examples

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  • I decided to write such a topic because there are often questions "in series or in parallel" "how many Ohm" etc.

    So :

    As if someone did not know or forgot, I remind you:
    Connecting Speakers in Series & Parallel: Increasing & Decreasing Ohms, Formulas & Examples

    When connecting in series, "Ohms" increase (add them), e.g.
    2x8? in series connection is 16? 8 + 8 = 16?
    3x8? in series connection is 24? 8 + 8 + 8 = 24?
    2x4? in series connection is 8? 4 + 4 = 8?

    and so on

    When connecting in parallel, the "Ohms" decrease. We count it from the formula 1 / R = 1 / Ra + 1 / Rb + 1 / Rc + ... + 1 / Rn

    2x8? when connected in parallel is about 4?
    3x8? when connected in parallel is about 3?

    and so on

    Please expand the thread.
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  • #2 6201904
    fuutro
    Level 43  
    In the case of the coils themselves, it would fit at least an example parallel 8 ?, it is correctly (8 * 8) / (8 + 8) = 4.
    It is also possible to connect the loudspeakers in series-parallel to maintain the same resistance, or the number of loudspeakers in series and connected in parallel is the same - the total power obviously increases with the number of loudspeakers and the power distribution is equal.
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  • #3 6201978
    Kuba-100v
    Level 12  
    fuutro, it would be nice to have spaces between the characters in this pattern, because the smiley faces have turned up and not everyone will understand what's going on. With this equal distribution of power, it must also be remembered that the further away from the amplifier, the smaller the power will be (how much depends on the length, quality and thickness of the wires)
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  • #4 6202062
    macko979
    Level 14  
    RiPPeRxD wrote:

    3x8? for parallel connection is 3? (8 + 8 + 8): 8 = 3 [/ b]
    and so on

    .


    this comes out at 2.67, you have a bit of a bad record :) But the topic is very good, such a tip would be useful when it comes to the maximum power when connecting the speakers
  • #5 6202070
    miszkoo
    Level 28  
    RiPPeRxD wrote:


    When connecting in parallel, "Ohms" decrease (we add and then divide by a multiple of 2 respectively)

    3x8? for parallel connection is 3? (8 + 8 + 8): 8 = 3 [/ b]
    and so on



    It's done too badly, to school buddy to school !!! If in this case, 2 packs of 8 ohms, your result was correct, but the counting method was wrong!

    The resultant of impedance (resistance) is calculated as follows: 1 / R = 1 / Ra + 1 / Rb + 1 / Rc + ... + 1 / Rn

    Treat a, b, c, n as indices (e.g. Ra is the impedance of the first column).


    Eh, this forum surprises me.

    and the impedance for 8ohm packs connected in parallel is 2, (6) ohms. This parenthesis means that 6 is in the period i.e. 0. (6) = 0.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
  • #6 6207157
    zet28
    Level 15  
    As already connecting in series, it is only identical speakers, the same power, impedation and bandwidth. I will probably be lynched in a moment for questions like what about the power of the set in the series connection of the speakers. What is the power of each speaker, we are talking about two. Advantages and disadvantages of serial and parallel connection. The topic concerns stage and home sound.
  • #7 7176383
    Arkadyo
    Level 31  
    As for me, serial connection is a waste of money. Actually, the second driver (the second and each subsequent one) in the line does not bring anything useful. It seems to me that if someone gives two transducers, he does it for a specific purpose and having an understanding of audio as such, it is not difficult to find this goal - unfortunately the serial connection has nothing to do with it. :) . It must be remembered that the use of 2 transducers in one path playing the same band on one filter and in one housing, and often in a common chamber, carries the risk of several undesirable phenomena, such as wave interference, etc. I do not want to and two are not strong enough, but it seems to me that for the purposes of this topic it is enough to say that when using at least 2 transducers (whether in series or in parallel), we risk the occurrence of undesirable phenomena. If so, the profit from having them should be some considerable so that risking yourself would make any sense.
    Well, now we come to what we get from the use of other transducers?
    Certainly, two of the same will not sound better than one - you can combine with different applications and thus improve the sound, but the combination itself will not be better without any special measures.
    If so, what do we gain? Well, in a parallel connection, we get an additional 3 decibels due to the doubled surface area of the membranes. In the parallel one, the impedance of the loudspeaker will certainly be reduced by half and therefore the load on the amplifier will change, which will give us another 3 decibels - in total there is already 6 decibels of efficiency increase. In addition, there is an increase in power by another converter, i.e. the ability to pump 2 times more power and obtain further decibels. You have already accumulated 9 decibels and this is something worth fighting for when someone likes it loud :D .
    And how does the serial connection relate to this? Well, what if we add a second transducer and get a gain of 3 decibels on the surface of the membranes as the impedance of the set will double and it will choke the amplifier twice and the gained 3 decibels will be leveled. Of course, the power of the loudspeaker will double and it will be possible to pump in 2x more power and thus gain, but is it sure to gain? In the end, the amplifier will be needed quite a bit, and as you know, this costs money. Maybe instead of two, buy one twice as expensive with better sonic qualities - I do not mention greater efficiency because it may or may not be, and for me the efficiency of the home set is of secondary importance and only the sonic qualities count.
    Some people see the advantages of increasing the impedance twice and "fitting" to an amplifier that, for example, does not support the lower impedance that one would have. You can and yes, but ... is it worth it, everyone has to answer for himself. I would change the amplifier there :D .
    There is one more option, as I mentioned above, i.e. various applications of the converters in the cabinet, i.e. separate chambers and, for example, various tunings - in a word, treatments that emphasize some parts of the sound spectrum and aim to improve the sound of the loudspeaker. If someone succeeds, this is an argument in favor of using a larger number of transducers - both in series and in parallel, but the advantages of the parallel probably outweigh :) .
    Besides, I prefer to buy one 2 timesmore expensive (of course I mean better, but the rule that more expensive is better, unfortunately, does not always work) than two half cheaper. If I had to decide, it would only be connected in parallel.
  • #8 7193241
    Runcajs
    Level 25  
    Everything is ok, but no one takes into account that having a 200W / 4R amplifier and giving 2 100W / 8R speakers will be perfect, with an equal connection, the sum of their power will be about 200W and the resistance of 4R so it fits, but with 2 speakers 200W / 4R it will not we will connect them in parallel due to the instability of the amplifier and the possibility of its damage. None of you take into account in your statements that the amplifiers are not infinitely stable when reducing the resistance of the converters. So it's normal to have a loudspeaker with a 2x4R coil and an amplifier stable up to 4R in the bridge, probably no one will connect the coils in the 2R? Well, unless for testing the stability of the amplifier and sometimes it is possible to achieve stability. Now as for the above statement. I have a home theater stable up to 6R, 5x15w + 1x30W. The loudspeakers have a power of 15W at 6R, so perfect. But due to the fact that I send a signal from the computer to the cinema, the cinema works as 2.1, i.e. front + subwoofer. Having little sound, mainly medium tones, because the sub was a little loud, I wanted to do something but not to cut the bass. I put the ends on the satellite from the back in the row, so we have a total of 30W / 12R per channel. You will think that it is not enough and, surprisingly, it sounds much better. Maybe they are not loudspeakers for making pressure etc. But there is much more to the middle tones. While previously I was able to set vol to 13, the same is also now without grunts and distortions. I achieved my effect, so you cannot deny the serial connection because everything for people only needs to know what it serves. Also, having a 2x2R subwoofer and a stable amplifier in the 4R bridge, it is obvious that you will connect the coils in series :)
    And as for the fact that you prefer a little objective, buy 1 amplifier 2 times more expensive than 2 cheaper, but some do not have the money to buy 1 more expensive and buy one cheaper because the second is out of money, so you also have to take into account. The connection issue mainly depends on the desired configuration of the equipment and the equipment you have, and whether it will be connected in series, parallel or mixed, it is in my opinion indifferent as long as it fulfills its function.
  • #9 7346831
    prez8s3
    Level 12  
    Apart from the issues of impedance and matching to the amplifier. Is it not a coincidence that when connected in series, the inductance of one loudspeaker affects the other? Kind of like a dynamic low-pass filter? I am asking because I have not found anything about it anywhere, and I have noticed that such a phenomenon is taking place in a positive sense. I do not know why, but the woofers connected in series sound a bit better, the bass is deeper and softer. The differences are not very significant, but it is audible.
  • #10 7464518
    wskteampower
    Level 11  
    Hello! I don't want to start a new topic and my problem seems to fit perfectly here. Namely: I recently bought eltron loudspeakers which someone has already manipulated - each of the speakers has one legendary gds30 / 30 and a series connected 15-inch loudspeaker no name. Of course, it sounds tragic, gds flies like stupid and the second speaker is barely. my question is: how to connect these speakers to make it sound somehow? maybe the speakers in the column should be connected in parallel, cutting the bass from the gds with a filter and two columns in series with the amplifier? I'm using the eltron wm-100 tip
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  • #11 7465127
    Anonymous
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  • #12 7472212
    wskteampower
    Level 11  
    Gentlemen, maybe someone will advise how to connect the speakers in these columns? the solution about which I wrote 2 posts above will work? Thank you in advance for your help
  • #13 7472896
    Anonymous
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  • #14 7473281
    wskteampower
    Level 11  
    I understand this and I am aware of it, but I would like to know if it is acceptable to connect two 4Ohm speakers in parallel and connect two such speakers in series to the amplifier. And how will the impedance of the set change when I give a capacitor for low frequency cutoff before gds?
  • #15 7473677
    Anonymous
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Topic summary

The discussion focuses on the principles of connecting speakers in series and parallel configurations, emphasizing the impact on impedance (Ohms) and power distribution. When connected in series, the total impedance increases (e.g., two 8 Ohm speakers yield 16 Ohms), while in parallel, it decreases, calculated using the formula 1/R = 1/Ra + 1/Rb + ... (e.g., two 8 Ohm speakers yield approximately 4 Ohms). Participants highlight the importance of matching speaker impedance to amplifier specifications to avoid damage and discuss the effects of speaker placement and wire quality on power distribution. The conversation also touches on the potential benefits and drawbacks of series versus parallel connections, including issues like wave interference and the necessity for identical speakers in series configurations. Specific speaker models and configurations are mentioned, including the Eltron WM-100 amplifier and GDS30/30 speakers.
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