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Can I Drive 200km on Three Cylinders in a Mazda Premacy? Consequences and Risks

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  • #1 7662414
    mazi79
    Level 10  
    Specifically - I am abroad in a total remote area where the snow plug is as hard to find as a shark in the desert. Everything was covered with snow and the only salvation was to wait until winter passed.

    The car was not fired for two weeks ... Today I tried to fire it and here a surprise - it does not burn well and smokes a lot of black and blue smoke, from the conversation with the service it appears that the rings have been found, in general, it is not possible to throw in cars on a tow truck, because no one has one within 100km, and one of them can only be driven on Saturday - unfortunately I can't stay here for so long ...
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    So I have a question, can I go about 200km on three cylinders? I want to unscrew the spark plug from the cylinder that releases the oil, disconnect the injector and go ... Will not be able to stand after a few kilometers? what could be the consequences of such driving? The ride will be fairly flat, I will try to adjust the speed so that there is no vibration and also not to watch the engine.

    The car is Mazda Premacy 2002. 2.0 16V petrol + LPG sequence, manual gearbox.
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  • #2 7662597
    adamjur1
    Level 41  
    Such a ride (as the computer allows you at all) may end up with damage to the catalyst (catalysts), breaking the bushings on the shaft, damage (uneven heating) of the head or the gasket under it. I strongly advise against.
    Greetings J.
  • #3 7663630
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    You will finish the engine.
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  • #4 7663653
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #5 7663712
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    For 200 km, it tears the engine out of its cushions, not to mention the rest.
  • #6 7663717
    manta
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Remove the spark plugs from the cylinder that is not running.
  • #7 7663733
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Chłopy, any of you rode on 3 cylinders? The steering wheel will not knock out a few teeth and you can get vibration sickness. Yes, 5.10 or 15 km can do it, but not two hundred - there is a great possibility that the engine will end up on this route, especially since it is not known what really happened there. I started the engines on "ZN" once a year and there were no so-called existing rings to an extent that would result in a loss of compression.
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  • #8 7663750
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #10 7664354
    nici
    Moderator Chiptuning
    the candle must stay, because if the cylinder is dragged on, it will make a mess.
  • #11 7664421
    Gerri
    Mercedes specialist
    Motronic wrote:
    on two they rode, for example, polonaises when their module fell.

    As we go into history, I remember when the guest came back with a Mermaid from Bulgaria on two cylinders (Mermaid has three - as if someone did not know)
    Namely, the connecting rod broke and it was only necessary to hang the piston on the wire to cover the windows in the cylinder (Mermaid is a two-stroke - as if someone did not know)
    But with a newer car, I would seriously consider it. You should definitely detach the injector. I do not know this car, but maybe the engine controller has already done it without having a signal from the knock sensor. It is likely to fail and reduce power to protect the engine. Local stresses in the head should not occur - because it is winter and the plan is to drive without overloading the engine. During a short test drive, pay close attention to engine operation - if the vibrations are too strong, DO NOT DRIVE !! Of course, this is just such a set of my remarks - it is difficult to take responsibility for possible and unforeseen damage.
    And I don't believe in these seized rings ...
  • #12 7664422
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #13 7665808
    kwok
    Level 40  
    if it is known that it does not work with one cylinder, I would be interested in why
    maybe only the candle got a puncture - replace it with a different cylinder, it will not hurt to find a fault and the ignition cable (if possible - length)
    when it comes to driving on 3 grinds, after removing the injector, there is no problem, just adjust the engine speed so that it vibrates the least, of course, unscrew the candle because it will compress in vain with the candle, which will result in a large loss of power and a lot too high fuel consumption
    I would rather not worry about the muck in the cylinder, because when it is winter and there is snow up to the waist, there is no dust and at most the candle thread will get stained with oil
    just about oil - although I have never tried at such a distance, but I'm afraid that it may spit it out a bit and you should stock up on a supply
    and as someone wrote earlier - do a test ride of about 5 to 30 km and see what is happening, of course, every few km to see if there is any slaughterhouse under the hood but I think that there should be no problem

    And so at the end, I think that no one will give you an unambiguous answer, because probably in Poland nobody rode 200 km on 3 garks, so there is no experience in this matter
    Regards and good luck
  • #14 7666210
    mazi79
    Level 10  
    I have arrived :)
    Surprisingly, I did not feel any vibrations, the engine worked evenly when it was idle. power was acceptable, temperature normal, the only drawback is the gurgling from the cylinder.
    I was most afraid of the carbon black in the cylinder, so I occasionally injected the oil from the 20W50 mower into the cylinder? I was prepared to replace the engine anyway. As for the baking of the rings - in mazes it is supposedly the norm, even after changing the oil they can be left in the crowd - apparently they can be saved by pouring kerosene into the cylinder and waiting a few days - they can let go.
    I also suspected a burned out valve because I am going on LPG, but where would it take so much oil? The engine smoked with burnt oil, like diesel from a turbine that has fallen to the ground ...

    I am curious what the reason was, let me know ...
  • #15 7666213
    BRYS_
    Level 22  
    Necessarily the radiator fan turned on permanently and the heating at "max". It's worth removing the thermostat. At least the engine temperature will not kill you.

    PS: And one more thing would not be that because of me your mask was torn off :D
    You probably guess what will happen when you remove the candle, disconnect the gasoline injector and you will think to go on LPG :D

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    (I wrote again for 2 minutes too long: idea :)
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  • #16 7666781
    gimak
    Level 41  
    Colleagues, without exaggeration, riding not all working garages as soon as there is efficient lubrication and cooling will not lead to the destruction of the engine. The reason for the lack of work of one of the cylinders must also be taken into account. It happened to me twice that I was driving without one cylinder. Once about 250 km on the fso1500, as the warranty covers, the camshaft (exhaust valve on the 4th cylinder) failed at 15 * frost. In this case, I had to disconnect the ignition on this cylinder, because I had the exhaust to the intake manifold and, as a result, blown out plugs in the carburetor. Fortunately, I found them all and squeezed them into their places. The second case is approx. 400 km, 1.4-16v meganka, also similar frost and probably not working 1 cylinder (symptoms: in neutral, slight vibrations of the gear stick, different than normal exhaust noise, and while driving, the instantaneous combustion indication almost doubled). On the website, I only said that one of the cylinders is not working and after 10 minutes there was a diagnosis of the ignition coil collapsed. In both cases, I did not find any negative effects of such driving, although the service claimed that it could have had a negative impact on the catalytic converter.
  • #17 7995112
    road_w
    Level 2  
    I happened to drive 300km
    torn the thread of the candle out of the head
    the candle kept loosening and finally fell out
    I wired the candle to the collector so that the ignition energy could escape normally
    I was on LPG
    because this cylinder will not suck anything from the intake anyway, having an open space
    I was just afraid that a lot of dust would get into the smoothing of the cylinder, but nothing like that happened
    while the acoustic effect was amazing and it was night
    after the first 20 km, the first patrol picked me up
    but I explained what happened and they let me go on
    during the next patrols, I turned off the engine and that's how I got there
    the head has been repaired by inserting a thread
    however, after some time it broke between the spark plug socket and one of the cylinders in the thinnest place because there was not enough head material left, and it started to run fluid on the spark plug thread. When replacing the cylinder head, there were no major signs of wear than in the other cylinders, and the pressure measurement did not show any significant difference. So it looks like nothing happened, but I'd rather not repeat it
  • #18 7995935
    fuelinyourblood
    Level 35  
    And isn't it better to repair this car on the spot than to ask such questions?

    see if you have a spark? swap cables with places
    swap the candles
    swap coils
    drive a little on gas

    you have a head and ch.j do it

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and risks of driving a Mazda Premacy for 200 km on three cylinders due to engine issues, specifically related to oil consumption and potential damage. Users express concerns about severe engine damage, including catalyst failure, uneven heating, and the risk of vibrations leading to further mechanical failures. Suggestions include disconnecting the injector from the non-functioning cylinder and removing the spark plug to prevent compression loss. Some users share personal experiences of driving on fewer cylinders, noting that while it may be possible for short distances, it poses significant risks for longer trips. The importance of monitoring engine performance and temperature during the journey is emphasized, along with the potential need for immediate repairs.
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