NAC WLBC 430B vs WLBC 260: Comparing Brushcutter Models, Performance & User Opinions

Hello.
I have had such a dilemma for several days. Namely, I'm going to buy a Nac WLBC 430B or WLBC 260 brushcutter and I don't know if it's good equipment.
I am asking for your opinion on these brushcutters, I will be grateful.
http://www.allegro.pl/item1089799017_nac_2w1_kosa_kosiarka_spalinowa_tarcza_poj_42_7cm.html
http://www.allegro.pl/item1084913296_nac_2w1_kosa_kosiarka_spalinowa_zylka_tarcza_1km.html

Thank you and best regards.

Both are more or less the same .. Choose one of them.

Głośnik123 wrote:

Both are more or less the same .. Choose one of them.

What an observation After all, they are scythes of the same company and differ only in engine capacity and power.
In addition, a colleague does not ask which one to choose, but only opinions about them.

If I can add 3 groszy, if you decide to buy a knife from this company, then definitely pay extra for the stronger one.
The seller giving the 2 year warranty somehow makes you think that this scythe is a bit of a date. Visually, it looks quite decent and the seller has extremely good opinions, i.e. he realizes complaints without blinking.

These brushcutters must be good since the manufacturer gives them a two-year warranty ...

I have had NAC for 7 years now and it works, it had its footprints, but everything breaks down, if you take care of it. And the 2-year warranty must be for everything, as the law provides, so even if you buy a used item, theoretically there is also a 2-year warranty, there is a code and that's it, and that sellers come up with some regulations that like a 2-week start-up warranty or that you cannot return the goods you will win with them in court

I recommend NAC brushcutters. We have two at home for a few years and they are ok. For now, knock on trouble-free. In the older one, we only replaced the heads, but she got a stone price of PLN 40, so nothing terrible. Sometimes they are used for light work and sometimes for hard work and they do a good job. We cleaned the older one on a 1000m2 plot and we managed to do it perfectly. They have a very strong triangle plate added in the set, the steel is hard. In general, I worked on a Stihl scythe and the engine work culture is higher Stihla and has more comfortable harnesses, but the price is also several times higher. Overall, when it comes to power, engine and build, scythes are recommendable. Fuel consumption is also normal. For private use, I think it is perfect, I recommend it with a clear conscience. It is worth taking the kose with more power, the weakest ones will simply be weak. We bought a Makita chainsaw because we have our own forest, my brother bought NAC and honestly, when it comes to our own use, the next one would be NAC. A few times cheaper, more powerful, no problem. Makita has been under repair a few good times and still has a broken switch. When it comes to professional use where the saw is supposed to run all day in harsh conditions, I would choose Stihla or Huskvarne 5 days a week. For home use, NAC is perfect.

Nac is a very poor choice, I would never buy this miracle because of the failure rate, poor availability of parts, generally made in Market, moreover, when it comes to selling on Allegro, comments are issued for the transaction, not for the quality of the equipment, let someone leave a comment in six months hahah so recommending these Nac disposables is without common sense

I am also about 8-9 years old. The coil under the warranty has died, they replaced it and has been working flawlessly since then.

Give up this type of "crap", I also let myself be persuaded to this crap - the equipment is generally a failure, as if it was not there at all, but you can deal with it, but unfortunately for the rest it is worse. I bought it 2 years ago, of course, new with warranty, after mowing literally 600m2 of tall grass (not a bush), everything stopped ... , I do not want to describe the situation in which I found myself what I went through to get my money back for this trash; because that's not the point, I just want to warn everyone against buying this type of mower

Nac somehow does not speak for me, a friend has recently bought a Makite something like this http://machinetrade.pl/sklep/kosy-spalinowe- twousuwowe scythe works very well in the yard, cuts all the brushwood, copes well with a thick lebiod, which is difficult breaks free.

Each stick has two ends, sometimes you could buy a Nac with a WALBRO carburetor, I have two myself (saw and brushcutter) and for about 7 years I have not even touched it except for replacing the candles. The second thing is that there are people who mow with such a brushcutter literally 5 minutes a week, so paying over PLN 1,000 for "branded" does not make any sense.
As for brand names or even Husqvarna, I have already met models in which the rings cracked half a year after the warranty, which made the saw rub off. The repair cost was comparable to the purchase of two Chinese ones and she mowed as much as nothing.

An amateur or Chinese mower is intended for amateur mowing, not for sawing it for 2 hours in the grass without rest, so let's not expect miracles from something that cost PLN 300.

Novile wrote:

So if we put a nice Porsche engine in the Russian, we have a Porsche, right?

I changed a few Chinese drinks, in each of them there was a problem with the carburetor because either the saw was living its own life or it did not burn or it went out and so on. On the other hand, the walbro has been used for 7 years without being touched.

Novile wrote:

It should write like this: "The mower for skimpy people, i.e. the Chinese one, is used to burn fuel, not to mow the grass for 2 hours continuously, because it will kill it.
Therefore, let's not expect miracles from something that costs PLN 300, and should cost PLN 30, which is as much as the metal weighs in the scrap.

I already wrote to you, some people need to mow the remains of a lawn mower or a small plot with such a scythe three times a year and this type of product is intended for such people. Don't expect quality from a mower that is worth as much as a good Husqvarna harness, as your colleague wrote above. For such people, there are correspondingly better equipment, of course, for correspondingly more money

Novile wrote:

And this is g ..... the truth because such a Chinese mower will not start then and it will simply fail the user in the world because it is impossible to work with it. You confirm my thesis by writing yourself

I have a Chinese one and it fires, no problem with it despite the "young han do" carburetor or something like that, probably because I use it really sporadically.

Novile wrote:

Which clearly means that otherwise they could not be used without replacing the carburetor with Walbro.

If someone is unable to come to terms with undulating turnover or constant adjustments, then you are right.

I can also recommend this scythe. It has been in use for 7 years and nothing has been replaced yet, and I have to pay 6a at least once every 2 weeks.

Novile wrote:

NAC stands for - New Chinese Dummy

Hehe.
How much it will work depends on the luck of which one you hit. Let the author change any unregulated links that have already expired. Personally, I would advise with a smaller engine but due to the weight. It is important that the engine is above 10 thousand. revolutions (mix 1:40; 1:50, those 1:25 do not bother). It is important that you do not choose a scythe with a float carburetor, take a look here: Link

Buy not buy that is the question. Is it Chinese or maybe something brand-name? Nobody will persuade me to buy branded saws or brushcutters. I worked on the subject exactly. I had a brand saw for PLN 2800 and a Chinese for PLN 400. The brand saw broke up after 10 years, the Chinese still works after 6 years. The equipment is used several times a year. Is a Chinese for PLN 500 the same as for PLN 250? Well no. All self-respecting dealers (NAC, Riwall, Demon, Kraft & Delle etc.) order equipment in China with specific parameters. The rest is equipment assembled from "production waste", under all sorts of names.
Branded equipment - the magic word. Branded means good? It used to be like that, now it is no different. What will the company do when its devices will operate for 15 or 20 years? The goods must be produced and sold otherwise the flap will be.
Each device consists of a certain number of components. What to do to get down on the price?
Gasoline saw - give a cheap chain, guide, casing
Petrol brushcutter - to give a cheap cutting head, a trident, a cheap case
Petrol lawn mower - housing, cutting knife, wheels etc.
Which engine is better? is the one lubricated with a mixture of 1:25 or 1:40? the one lubricated with 1:40 mixture will always be of a newer generation (by giving a 1:30 mixture in its case, we will extend its life a bit)
Is higher engine speed better or worse? The answer is obvious - when we walk longer, the legs, unfortunately, hurt.

bearq wrote:

An amateur or Chinese mower is intended for amateur mowing, not for sawing it for 2 hours in the grass without rest, so let's not expect miracles from something that cost PLN 300.

I have no complaints on the NAC 54ccm, I saw after 2 hours with full power with a 2.2 mm monofilament
Husqvarna ori oil only blue 1:20. I do the same with the Sthila power saw.

And I have to write that only this oil lubricates these enough in such a proportion.

A different or poorer mixture is not in favor of the Chinese.

In the saw, a good morning to replace the guide bar, chain and air filter. Only then can you go into the forest.

The above-mentioned McCulloch brand is also market Chinese, but on the other hand it is Husqvarna ... because what is not produced in China today? I have a Trimmac trimmer (McCulloch) and it's ok (I had a Husqvarna before but they stole: /). It seems to have a Walbro carburetor, but it has "moods", sometimes it won't fire, sometimes it chokes when going into revolutions. Old Husqvarna was trouble-free. However, for private, occasional use, there is approx.

I fully agree with my colleague @ atrix55 just pay attention to the 1:40 mixture.

Price is not a determinant. I have a Spear & Jackson saw on a Walbro carburetor, a bar and an original Oregon chain. Bought for exhibition for PLN 200 from the net, the only thing that was a blunt chain so that he did not take it at all. It has already paid for itself several times.

I have a scythe Titan, the only thing that fell was the silicon fuel hose. It cost, as I remember correctly, about PLN 250. The line head lasted 2 seasons and did not fall apart. Nothing fell to me in the saw, but I just bought 2 chains and made my own muffler gasket because the original one was releasing.

You can really choose good equipment from the Chinese. When I was in the husqvarna showroom, because I was looking for a candle wrench for a saw, at an unusual size, I saw an identically built partner. The Chinese are generally copies of branded models.


As for the opinion of those who can afford expensive equipment, I very often meet with the fact that they have a black-work saw where they feel sorry for brand-name equipment. This approach makes them slaughter Chinese because it is a pity for them to damage the branded equipment, so their opinion is not worth shit.

Formerly known brands had only durable equipment, now it is so that for amateur use they offer equipment with a similar durability to the Chinese. Nowadays, there are also branded durable models, but they are heavy and expensive.

As for the oil, yes, these cheap ones are worth nothing, you need to buy a good one, even for a Chinese. I buy stihla, I bought a liter because after 100 ml it is much more expensive.
On the other hand, I ran out of the chain, so I strained the old engine and it is ok (better than the edible chain is less sticky).

The only thing that is + in branded equipment is weight and more power, but not everyone needs 5KM.
One more time I saw on the Allegro all new engines for my saw without accessories for PLN 70, while the branded piston costs more.

Thank you for what my acquaintance with the brand saw had SHINDAIWA. He gave about 2,000 for the saw, the saw was seized up, the user was guilty of repairing PLN 900 and the repair time was over half a year. He laughed that I bought a toy and had a piggy bank himself.

My drank is a pictorial photo.

And here the original Partner P350S costs about PLN 500, and in my opinion it is the same as mine for PLN 200.


My scythe Titan TTL530GBC only the harness could be better, but in the cheap ones there are much worse harnesses only on 1 frame.

Novile wrote:

Swia's Awareness Stream wrote:


Husqvarna ori oil only blue 1:20. I do the same with the Sthila power saw.


Well, you are a mess. And I pour 1:50 Ciu and gasoline only 98 octane.
In fact, it may be important to pour almost the oil itself, because even a stone, if you oil it well, will slide. I poured 1:35 on Komar and he smoked like crazy.

I cannot afford to have a part of a ditch or yard cut out, and this oil does not smoke at all.
Secondly, this is the solution and I found it and I am using it.

Thirdly, 2.75 liters of exudate about 8a of trash.
And in the event of a mishap, breakage of the connecting rod, seizure or something else, I do not cry, but throw it away for scrap and buy another one.

Novile wrote:

Forgive me, but this is probably a scythe for the exhibition only, you can't see any use on it at all.

Buddy, the photos are from the net. Mine is soaked up to the handle because I simply do not play in washing, but only scrapes the putty from the cover with a stick to make it lighter. And I chose the price for 3 reasons, the combined boom facilitates transport and I found that these other Chinese people like to melt plastics, nothing melts for me, although sometimes I warmed it up properly when I was in a hurry to do 10A, only taking breaks to refill the fuel. And it burns it, depending on the use, if someone presses full gas all the time it is even 3 liters, but if moderately 3/4 of the gas is 1.7 liters is enough.

I considered another Chinese theoretically stronger, but I found the info that it melts the housing, the head is disposable, and despite the greater capacity / power, it has lower revolutions (so someone is cheating here because the power in such equipment is mainly rotational speed). Unfortunately, the price was much higher, about PLN 350, and it was heavier. I am very pleased with the choice.

Novile wrote:

Interesting, um, is it possible lack of money or common sense?

Cash is important, and even more so is common sense.

Novile wrote:

And what is this supposed to mean? It is not known whether the Chinese will last up to 7 years. So I don't advise you to draw conclusions so quickly.

Let the Chinese stay for 3 years. The saw I wrote about is the Sthil MS280 (Scandinavian version), after 3 years the ignition was broken (price PLN 300), frequent pads of the cutter (PLN 50 - 100 parts), with time the bolts securing the housing to the crankcase broke. So nerve, expenses and satisfaction because you have branded equipment. After falling down, he chicks himself out and buys another one - there is no less nerve. In addition, the whole saw was included in the price of the ignition device. So what are the conclusions?

Novile wrote:

Well yes, it's the same g ......

You're raving and that's it.
As a versatile person, I have been dealing with carpentry and metal for years, including electronics.
I have used angle grinders from different companies. Both the reputable ones and those made in China.
Let's take Einhella's tray and another China invention. Einhell cut so much steel that the head is small, of course a good shield and 1mm. Another Chinese died after 2-3 hours. Why? because this Chinese was assembled from post-production "scrap". Well, but it was cheap to the pain. I can describe in detail what it is about, how is someone interested in this thread why one Chinese is OK and the other BE.

Novile wrote:

Which ones ?? Probably about the price parameters, it should be CHEAP.
In addition, the parameters are the same as for other traders, i.e. for a bowl of rice 24 g / 7 days a week. Even if the Chinese were to impose parameters, they would still not be able to meet them because they do not have the technology. Here, an ordinary scrap melting plant is not enough to perform cyanidation or surface cementation. But today's "businessmen" are a bunch of NEO children who have no idea, what is the difference between carbon steel and alloy steel. Because for this you need to have a school, not the practice of using a debilitating smartphone.
Thus, to today's "traders" it does not matter what they sell the tools for.

Technology? A country with a nuclear arsenal, an army at a similar technological level as the USA, a country that is starting to conquer space. Man, you don't believe what you're writing.
Cheap is different and new technologies are different. Have you seen the titanium tire levers made in China or the old USSR? And a titanium chisel made in USSR?

Novile wrote:

You have no idea what an honest business is about. A good durable device is sold, and its consumables such as grease, oils, filters, membranes are earned. This is the right concept, and so it was once done, then you did not find what you do today in the landfill. And 100% of the devices were repairable.

There is no honest business. Business is business, means profit. I have no regrets.
I once bought a Bosch aku screwdriver for almost PLN 1000. Small, light but strong like a bull. The joy ended as the batteries died. Except that it earned itself. Since then, I always charge one battery, the second one waits for the first one to fall. I will ask you a question, are the batteries interchangeable with other products of a given company? - screwdriver, cutter, etc.

Novile wrote:

Yes, that is, cheat the client! Let's call a spade a spade, because it's like selling someone a car cheaper on wax wheels. Are there wheels? Are! But to drive one kilometer and more, you have to buy real ones.

The market is governed by its own laws. There is professional and cheap equipment (we call it amateur, not offending amateurs, because I am one myself in some areas)
Not everyone needs a chainsaw for their daily work. For a professional, something that will cope with continuous work, for an amateur who will use something cheap twice a year. This is the case with other tools. I buy taps for PLN 80 - 100 because it threads raw steel. Someone who wants to correct only the thread, taps for PLN 10 are enough.

You shout not to buy Chinese food, because we are stuffing our pockets with strangers. It is true. But we won't change anything, because we don't have Polish companies. There are a few but these are exceptions. The only thing we can do is fill the pockets of a Polish dealer.
And exploitation is everywhere not only in China. It is enough to look at your own Polish backyard.

Novile wrote:

Recently, I had a vacuum cleaner on the table, a friend came from Germany. BOSCH brands.
And guess what, IT WAS MADE IN GERMANY! By Bosch and not in China. Equipment from 2 years ago.

I would not be so sure that it was made in Germania.
I have binoculars made in Japan (Nikon), i.e. made in Japan. Nothing could be more wrong, just go to the alibaba trading portal and everything is clear - product China.

Less shouting, more knowledge buddy.

I'm afraid you won't convince this friend. Perhaps he will find out for himself sometime.

Novile wrote:

And I pour 1:50 Ciu and gasoline only 98 octane.

It just proves he has a poor idea. He probably thinks those 98 in the 2T give more power or improve durability. :)

Only high-compression sports engines should use a higher octane value (modern sensor sports engines vary the ignition timing depending on the fuel).
https://polki.pl/dzialy,czy-wiesz-ze-benzyna-...zalecana-oslabia-silnik,10326512,artykul.html

In general, with fuel, you can find good and bad with beer, regardless of the packaging or the price. I omit the fact that few fuel has as many octanes as it says on the dispenser. What fuel will arrive, is sold.