Considering a Lawn Mower with Loncin Engine vs Honda 135, 160 GCV: Experiences & Comparisons

I warmly welcome!
I'm thinking about buying a lawn mower with a Loncin engine. Until now, I used GGP from OBI purchased over 10 years ago, but I found that it is probably not worth overpaying almost as much, because Honda 135 after 10 years is over and outside the engine I exchanged and welded almost everything.
I also want to pay PLN 1,100 for not known, than for the weaker (because according to Loncin's data it is 10.4 Nm and Honda 160 GCV 9.4 Nm), PLN 1800 with the Honda engine and replaced with new ones after 5 years.
I have not found any negative entries about the Loncin engine, also please post if someone has bad / good experience.

Thanks in advance!

In fact, in Chinese engines, we will not know 100% what power and how many Nm they have, for opinions it's hardly popular engines but cheaper than B & S, on the other hand we have it that if something is going to spoil what is supposed to be good it's hard to admit it and adding that these engines are not very expensive, most often we do not repair them, we only replace mowers

I bought for PLN 300 passed GGP with Honda 135 from a friend who works on the Honda website, I also shared the opinion of one of the Forum members who had the same problem and did the same

It's hard to judge how much it could go but not more than a few tens of hours to my eye. Ultimately, it will serve as a reserve, like buying something nicer, maybe a tractor (in this topic I'm green, because I think about something up to 3000 PLN used, if someone has any suggestions I will be grateful for help in choosing, I will cost about 25) and break down, because it was not once that it was necessary to take half of the mowing in the workshop.
However, only Honda gives sleeves to the cylinder (I learned from a guy from Honda) the rest, for example, Loncin has an ordinary cast iron cylinder and certainly will not live as much as Honda. He also said that B & S, if they could, would make a plastic cylinder ...

I will only add that a colleague from Honda, or no idea what he is telling you, or intentionally pushes the putty.

You mean cylinder lining?

Waldi 7611 wrote:

Ultimately, it will serve as a reserve, like buying something nicer, maybe a tractor (in this topic I'm green, because I think about something up to 3000 PLN used, if someone has any suggestions I will be grateful for help in choosing, I will cost about 25) and break down, because it was not once that it was necessary to take half of the mowing in the workshop.

https://pilarz.org/viewforum.php?f=54
https://pilarz.org/viewforum.php?f=23

Thanks to Wojtek, the saw (I do not surreptitiously) is better on this topic

It is a pity that in this forum, the recommendation comes down to only one brand that is overrated, such medium-quality equipment is plenty on the market, they did it well and the unconscious customer falls into a trap, the same people and rolling the same topic all the time, I would like it he did not treat the forum seriously.

Speech of the Honda or Loncin brand?

Waldi 7611 wrote:

Speech of the Honda or Loncin brand?

I think, however, about Oleo-mac.

Do you suspect a collusion?

These are people mostly associated with Oleomak and its derivatives, or collusion? There is certainly something in it, if they come from one option and support the same all the time, until boredom, which does not translate into the facts, even those who have no idea what they are writing, they are also beginning to support the same, because they look at what others write and think that this is the way to do it, I personally would never buy it because the equipment is different cheaper and even better.

You say that something like oleomania is manifesting here ? Probably there is something in it. At the beginning I was looking for something cheaper, but I am inclining towards oleo matza, But I am wondering what the difference is from the service, availability of parts and good opinions, maybe this is what we should suggest. Recently I was watching Vege with Loncin 196 and dude asked if I am collecting grass or mulching, because when I collect, he immediately dragged me to Grass and said that this is the best lawn mower to collect grass . Besides, I do not want to spit in my beard like something I think I saved 350 zlotys. Olek, Grass, Vega seems all the same, but at the moment I'm interested only in the area of the knife, because I do not want to scrape the grass and earth from corners, in Grasa it looked ok. Besides, probably only olek gives a 3-year warranty.

When it comes to mowers, World from Grass is better than Oleomac, I would not take Vega. In this case, I would not count on the guarantee, because probably no one will recognize it and it will be the fault of the user. Going further along the trail of online forums, this forum is paid by the company for good reviews. Someone gets gratuities for it to watch over the promotion of their equipment and it is not just one company, but more. Even uncomfortable posts are quickly removed so that no one will know that there is something wrong. This forum has nothing to do with impartiality, it's just a shame that the uninformed people are making a balloon.

I will say this. On many forums, when people hear the slogan "Loncin engine" it starts complaining that it is Chinese, that it is weak, that it is not known what power ... Meanwhile, it is one of the largest producers of engines in China. Produces models for almost everything you can. From motorcycles to lawn mowers. Besides, many good manufacturers put Loncin engines into their equipment (examples: https://cedrus.com.pl/kosiarka-spalinowa-cedrus-kcl21sp-4w1 or: https://cedrus.com.pl/odkurzacz-do-losci- weibang-loncin-g160f) and somehow nobody complains. In my opinion, there is nothing to be afraid of. Until you buy an engine of the brand "engine" it should not be a problem.

With this "good" Cedrus mower you have overdone it, these mowers are rather sloppy

This forum https://pilarz.org/index.php is a skipper of a wide gap - they recommend as a colleague Zagorski-Tomasz wrote - what they have at home in the store
and as for the first post, do not compare Honda's power to the above models - Honda gives power at full load (rarely which the company does) with a silencer, filters with other components (as I remember it well according to SAE standard J1349 since 2007) - most give without load

https://www.honda-sklep.pl/

You need to correct the statement about the forum, not what they have in the store only who will pay them and this is the difference, Loncin engines also have their drawbacks, but they are cheaper ob B & S and are not so trouble-free. From what I remember, it was probably that year that I had to wait for flywheels for 224cc engines for about three weeks because in Poland it was not so sweet.

I just said goodbye to the mower with a 196ccm engine and it was not because of the engine failure that I just cracked the plastic fuel tank, I mark it broke without any reason, without impact, etc., the service said that these plastic fuel tanks are the bane of Chinese engines and burst for no reason, for a replacement PLN 300, but because plastic is no guarantee, so if it doesn't crack for a year it's a success, well, I prefer to throw this mower than pray for luck with every spill of fuel.

I am looking for a lawn mower with a Loncin motor with a drive for approx. 300-400 m2 of lawn. Until now, I have been using Variolux from OBI for 12 years, and if the mower body did not rust, then old B&S whims that it is a pity to throw it away, I also lost drive at the last mowing so combining with repairs makes no sense. Help me choose a reasonable brand so that it comes next 10 years.

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