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How to Make Conductive Epoxy Adhesive Using 2B Graphite Powder and Two-Component Glue

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  • #1 92900
    koral123
    Level 11  
    It is very easy to make conductive glue on your own
    range:
    - buy two-component epoxy glue (5 minutes)
    - buy a regular 2B pencil (soft pencils have proportion
    higher pure graphite content)

    1.Graphite pencil insert should be wiped off with a very fine one
    sandpaper (e.g. 300 and more)
    2.Mix both components of the glue with the graphite powder in ratio
    1:10 (or more) - a little glue and a lot of powder (the more the
    better - the greater conductivity of such a mass).
    CAUTION. do not worry about the large dispersion of glue to powder
    the graphite surface has a very low coefficient of friction, so you can perfectly mix large amounts of graphite with a small amount of highly liquid glue.

    Measure the resistance after grinding the surface with very fine sandpaper (min 1000) or a silicone disc.

    After the glue dries, we get a hard mass with good properties
    electrical and even better physical and chemical. Both graphite and epoxy mass are resistant to almost all chemicals found in everyday life and to extreme temperature conditions.
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  • #2 94954
    brofran
    Level 41  
    Similarly, such a metal-based glue can be prepared.
    Instead of graphite, use copper filings - some kind of rod, or
    File the thicker sheet metal with a file.
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  • #3 96534
    Andre66
    Level 12  
    Or maybe just a bit of varnish without color and graphite from the remote control battery is excellent :lol:
  • #4 96561
    kruchy
    Level 12  
    The Ergom company from Łódź sells a ready-made conductive adhesive. I do not have the catalog with me, but on Monday I will check it at work and give you the price and name of this product. For those interested, phone to the sales department: phone (+48 42) 68-93-389; 68-93-390, fax. (+48 42) 68-93-399.

    Fragile
  • #5 105899
    Witcher
    Level 13  
    Hmm, it depends on what the glue is for ... I wonder what about the bridging of the prock?

    and as for the store ones:
    Electrically conductive adhesive ELPOX 15 (E-ZFIX) gross PLN: 17

    Electrically conductive one-component acrylic varnish ELECTON 40AC (E-ZFIX) gross PLN: 23

    The prices were taken from "http://www.4max.com.pl"
  • #6 106296
    pioter
    Level 16  
    A pencil is poorly conductive, copper or sheet metal is difficult to sand down to a fine form in a short time. The best result so far was sanding a graphite brush for a vacuum cleaner motor. (the cost of such a brush = the cost of 2 pencils, with the brush getting more dust.) I'll try toner tomorrow.
  • #7 260696
    Arctik
    Level 11  
    Does anyone know where you can buy a varnish based on silver filings in Krakow?
  • #8 260810
    wawaldek
    Level 13  
    I successfully use an adhesive designed to repair heated car windows. I bought in an art store. automotive for about PLN 15.
    I use it to repair remote controls, potentiometers and foils, e.g. in microwave ovens. It's on acetone (or something like that) and probably silver-based - I use nitro for dilution.
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  • #9 11610806
    koziolek7
    Level 11  
    And can this heated windshield adhesive be used to repair BGA pads?
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  • #10 11619068
    gryzzly
    Level 22  
    koziolek7 wrote:
    And can this heated windshield adhesive be used to repair BGA pads?

    Not because, firstly, it will not withstand the soldering temperature, secondly, do you want the BGA ball to be soldered to such a pad ???
  • #11 19463242
    jezdzeleonemfsi
    Level 4  
    Refreshing the topic, I developed an adhesive in which I used 20 g of epoxy resin, 16 g of hardener and 2 g of copper powder. After curing the glue in a rectangular form, I applied the lab power supply clamps to both ends of it, but the current did not flow, can anyone say why? How to do it better?
  • #12 19463256
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #13 19463578
    jezdzeleonemfsi
    Level 4  
    Okay, thanks.
    Will try to use more.
  • #14 19774977
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #15 20774288
    zasilaczen
    Level 8  
    Supposedly, the current is conducted by black glass silicone, which is a bit strange because silicones are insulators.
    But here the guy successfully makes a short circuit with it. Someone may know why this happens?
    What does black silicone have in its composition that it can conduct?


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  • #16 20774389
    brofran
    Level 41  
    zasilaczen wrote:
    What does black silicone have in its composition that it can conduct?

    Ordinary black silicone 100% does not conduct electricity. The video probably used silicone for repairing heating windows in cars ( older type , because in newer ones the heating wires are embedded in glass ) .
  • #17 20783983
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    This is not a silicone, but a glass adhesive/sealant! Something like Sikaflex (although I don't know if it actually conducts electricity).
  • #18 20784615
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    Well, and what is the resistivity of this, self-made glue? Has anyone measured?

    I use the factory glue for repairs:
    Link

    I have these tips.
    1. The glue is flexible, so you can repair flexible tape with conductive paths. (The above-mentioned resin-based glue will probably crumble when bending.)
    2. The glue conducts only after drying. It is best to leave it for 12-24 h.
    3. Store in the refrigerator, because then it does not dry out and you can have it for years - before using it, remove and warm the vial in your hands. Stored normally, it will dry out in six months even though the seal is rubber in the vial.
    4. Use the brush from the kit to apply, because it provides extreme precision in application. Wash in IPA or gasoline after use.

    Greetings!
  • #19 20860350
    Hot_Amir
    Level 3  

    @zasilaczen Can you translate the voice of this video into Farsi?
  • #20 20861468
    Hot_Amir
    Level 3  
    @ElektrodaBot
    Hot_Amir wrote:

    @zasilaczen آیا می توانید صدای این ویدیو را به فارسی ترجمه کنید?
    [/نقل قول].

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the creation of conductive adhesive using common materials. A user suggests mixing two-component epoxy glue with graphite powder from a 2B pencil, emphasizing a high graphite content for better conductivity. Alternative methods include using copper filings or graphite from vacuum cleaner brushes. Several participants mention commercially available conductive adhesives, such as ELPOX 15 and ELECTON 40AC, and discuss their properties and applications. Concerns about the effectiveness of homemade adhesives and the appropriate ratios of conductive materials are raised, with suggestions to increase the amount of conductive powder for better results. The conversation also touches on the use of specialized adhesives for electronic repairs, including those for heated car windows and BGA pads, and the conductivity of various materials like black silicone and glass adhesives.
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